EPT[HomeStory Cup XX] Championship Sunday - Page 13
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SamirDuran
Philippines895 Posts
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MockHamill
Sweden1798 Posts
On November 25 2019 00:02 stilt wrote: Reynor is so insanely good. Is Reynor the new Serral? | ||
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
Depends. Would serral get beaten 4-1 by dark in a global final? | ||
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Comedy
469 Posts
On November 25 2019 00:03 SamirDuran wrote: Heroics unit should never be abducted. Lategame pvz is still unplayable lol just wait until a protoss who's actually competent at late game keeps the vipers with revelation and doesnt lose 20 carriers to abducts throughout the game for free, and also gets his own templars feedbacked before heading into the final engagement lol (why would he engage right after losing all his energy?) Zest is just bad at late game | ||
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Xamo
Spain886 Posts
On November 25 2019 00:03 Elentos wrote: So ZvP late game is still just spellcaster spam :S They are very hard to control all at once so I think it may be ok. I hate the infinity mana for the Viper, tho. That is not a spellcaster, it is a regular unit with a cooldown. | ||
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sirok_
33 Posts
Plus it is often backed up by a thousand spores and broodlords who wreck high templars. Thus, tere's no way a Protoss will win the feedback / abduct war against a player as skilled as Reynor. Protoss air armada vs Zerg is bad theory crafting. It supposes that on one hand Protoss will have insane micro and on the other that Zerg will make mistakes. Heroic unit should be non-abductable. | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On November 25 2019 00:03 Elentos wrote: So ZvP late game is still just spellcaster spam :S Ye. Balance aside, this is what really needs to be fixed. Two deathballs crashing into each other is just not fun to watch. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
Zest probably just needs a trip down in the gutter before he goes into full HSC-mode. | ||
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
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stilt
France2755 Posts
On November 25 2019 00:07 sirok_ wrote: Viper is faster than high templar and flies. Plus it is often backed up by a thousand spores and broodlords who wreck high templars. Thus, tere's no way a Protoss will win the feedback / abduct war against a player as skilled as Reynor. Protoss air armada vs Zerg is bad theory crafting. It supposes that on one hand Protoss will have insane micro and on the other that Zerg will make mistakes. Heroic unit should be non-abductable. Protoss golden armada is the hightest dps comp and super tanky, it needs so much more skill to outposition it. And once viper get feedback, they are useless while they take more supply and are more expensive, there are not great in comparaison to ht to say the very least. | ||
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Comedy
469 Posts
On November 25 2019 00:07 sirok_ wrote: Viper is faster than high templar and flies. Plus it is often backed up by a thousand spores and broodlords who wreck high templars. Thus, tere's no way a Protoss will win the feedback / abduct war against a player as skilled as Reynor. Protoss air armada vs Zerg is bad theory crafting. It supposes that on one hand Protoss will have insane micro and on the other that Zerg will make mistakes. Heroic unit should be non-abductable. you literally need 2 hotkeys to control your 'air armada'. air on 1, templars on 2. if you add a 3rd hotkey for 2 oracles and keep relevation on the vipers you can just hold down rapid fire feedback everytime it comes close enough to abduct and you will take good trades. Zerg needs to mass corrupter to beat your air armada now, there wont be so many broodlords all the supply has to go in vipers/corrupters/infestors (maybe) and a runby squad... Zerg needs 5 hotkeys btw broodlords corrupters/vipers infestors queens ground army squad reynor played that game insanely well and just outplayed zest on every front.. Zest has never been known for his strenght in late game even when he was dominating in 2014. He's just not a late game player. | ||
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Arcanefrost
Belgium1257 Posts
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Elentos
55570 Posts
On November 25 2019 00:16 Comedy wrote: Zest has never been known for his strenght in late game even when he was dominating in 2014. He's just not a late game player. This is just not true. | ||
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
On November 25 2019 00:17 Arcanefrost wrote: I'm starting to think you just can't beat players like serral and reynor in zvp. You have no chance in a macro game, and you can't surprise them with a cheese three times To be fair, patch hasn't even gone live yet (apart from HSC) and we could yet see a pvz playstyle that changes things completely. I know it's not the best example of how you could change late game pvz due its perceived lack of success so far but the idea of going for some disruptors late on seems to have untapped potential. Would love to see protoss mixing things up in the next WCS and hopefully a bit more success for the likes of neeb and showtime in the foreign circuit | ||
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Xamo
Spain886 Posts
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Elentos
55570 Posts
On November 25 2019 00:22 sudete wrote: To be fair, patch hasn't even gone live yet (apart from HSC) and we could yet see a pvz playstyle that changes things completely. I know it's not the best example of how you could change late game pvz due its perceived lack of success so far but the idea of going for some disruptors late on seems to have untapped potential. Would love to see protoss mixing things up in the next WCS and hopefully a bit more success for the likes of neeb and showtime in the foreign circuit We saw at ASUS ROG Stats trying to manage speed prism disruptors, HTs, his air fleet and counter attacks (his own and his opponent's). It didn't work at the time but maybe without Infested Terrans it's worth another go. Just seems like a 500 APM playstyle. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On November 25 2019 00:22 Xamo wrote: Is there a link to vote for the game of the tournament? It is not on Liquipedia. I dont think there is, since it's kinda too early, game of the tournament might be in the Gfinals | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On November 25 2019 00:24 Geo.Rion wrote: I dont think there is, since it's kinda too early, game of the tournament might be in the Gfinals Exactly. Shouldn't be done yet. | ||
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