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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7006 Posts
November 22 2019 15:12 GMT
#101
On November 23 2019 00:10 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2019 00:08 Harris1st wrote:
Do none of them know how to waterslide right?

Did someone get a better time than 25sec yet? Misssed the last hour. I know Stats did like 35 sec, so there is quite a large gap between some guys.


Have seen just a few guys, but i thought everyone knew to minimize frction. That's why you slide on your shoulderblades and heel
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
November 22 2019 15:12 GMT
#102
On November 23 2019 00:10 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2019 00:08 Harris1st wrote:
Do none of them know how to waterslide right?

Did someone get a better time than 25sec yet? Misssed the last hour. I know Stats did like 35 sec, so there is quite a large gap between some guys.


Zanster and Drogo have a time close to 25 sec I think.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7006 Posts
November 22 2019 15:13 GMT
#103
On November 23 2019 00:04 Morbidius wrote:
People aren't going bonkers because soO lost, its mostly because nothing good ever came out of an Skytoss meta in PvZ. By the way i really want to see Serral face a top Protoss in this meta(he won't in his group sadly) .


Showtime placed above Stats at Blizzcon...FYI
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
November 22 2019 15:17 GMT
#104
On November 23 2019 00:13 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2019 00:04 Morbidius wrote:
People aren't going bonkers because soO lost, its mostly because nothing good ever came out of an Skytoss meta in PvZ. By the way i really want to see Serral face a top Protoss in this meta(he won't in his group sadly) .


Showtime placed above Stats at Blizzcon...FYI

Yeah ShoWTimE is definitely a top protoss atm
WriterMaru
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain881 Posts
November 22 2019 15:19 GMT
#105
What song was that? So funny...
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
November 22 2019 15:21 GMT
#106
On November 23 2019 00:19 Xamo wrote:
What song was that? So funny...

Twitter: @osaxnymloth
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 22 2019 15:27 GMT
#107
Lambo is having a terrible tournament.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
November 22 2019 15:28 GMT
#108
Nice Clem
MaxPax
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 22 2019 15:29 GMT
#109
Bunny out and Clem survives? :O
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26181 Posts
November 22 2019 15:34 GMT
#110
On November 23 2019 00:07 Tyrhanius wrote:
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On November 22 2019 23:52 Morbidius wrote:
Will we see PvZ lategame not being ridiculously favored towards one race in the next decade maybe?

Lol, skytoss is a thing still since WOL. By the way 60-80 % of the protoss in diamond just doing photon rush into skytoss vs zerg.

Sure eventually, when they met good master/GM player this strats stopped working during some period, but it was always incredibly easy to perform, and teamgame is full of 30 APM guys that mass carriers, because it's super strong and really hard to counter.

So skytoss is probably the best start if you want to be carried above your real skill, the fact this strat hasn't been nerfed since WOL is ridiculous. It even more ridiculous to make a balance patch that make this strat OP at the highest level...

In any RTS game I’ve ever played at lower levels turtling into end game units is strong because players don’t have the mechanics or know the timings to punish such styles.

What are you talking about that it hasn’t been nerfed since WoL? Flux vanes was removed, Voids have been changed multiple times, archon toilet was removed, Carrier is seemingly buffed/nerfed with every other patch.

As we haven’t seen the Zergs use their new toolkit yet I’d say the patch is 50% a success, in that Toss can compete with certain lategame comps Zerg have when they were failing before.

The other 50% on whether I’ll judge it on is whether or not we’re just swapping borderline unkillable Zerg comps for a Protoss sky ball equivalent.

Which would be extremely premature to judge given some Zergs don’t look like they even realise there has been a patch.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-22 15:44:12
November 22 2019 15:43 GMT
#111
Hm KR(soO,Solar) vs EU(Elazer, Lambo,TLO, Zanster) ZvZ is 4-4(1-2-1) right now in this tournament.

I hope Clem advancing is just the first step for his global domination of Sc2!
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
November 22 2019 15:48 GMT
#112
On November 23 2019 00:43 Xain0n wrote:
Hm KR(soO,Solar) vs EU(Elazer, Lambo,TLO, Zanster) ZvZ is 4-4(1-2-1) right now in this tournament.

I hope Clem advancing is just the first step for his global domination of Sc2!

I dont think those ZVZ numbers mean much.

Very impressive that Clem managed to qualify but he looked so completely lost and outclassed by Zest and Stats, that I wouldnt put money on him getting far, if he hits another good toss
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26181 Posts
November 22 2019 15:50 GMT
#113
On November 23 2019 00:48 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2019 00:43 Xain0n wrote:
Hm KR(soO,Solar) vs EU(Elazer, Lambo,TLO, Zanster) ZvZ is 4-4(1-2-1) right now in this tournament.

I hope Clem advancing is just the first step for his global domination of Sc2!

I dont think those ZVZ numbers mean much.

Very impressive that Clem managed to qualify but he looked so completely lost and outclassed by Zest and Stats, that I wouldnt put money on him getting far, if he hits another good toss

Was he stomped? I expected him to maybe take a set but look good in losing given his vP is pretty tasty.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4735 Posts
November 22 2019 15:50 GMT
#114
That video was fun. So many old school attendees
Pathetic Greta hater.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
November 22 2019 15:52 GMT
#115
On November 23 2019 00:50 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2019 00:48 Geo.Rion wrote:
On November 23 2019 00:43 Xain0n wrote:
Hm KR(soO,Solar) vs EU(Elazer, Lambo,TLO, Zanster) ZvZ is 4-4(1-2-1) right now in this tournament.

I hope Clem advancing is just the first step for his global domination of Sc2!

I dont think those ZVZ numbers mean much.

Very impressive that Clem managed to qualify but he looked so completely lost and outclassed by Zest and Stats, that I wouldnt put money on him getting far, if he hits another good toss

Was he stomped? I expected him to maybe take a set but look good in losing given his vP is pretty tasty.

he was kinda stomped, and he looked very frustrated. He left the last game with close to even supply, cuz his attack dindt work. I mean he probably would have lost anyways, but when players do that u can tell they are frustrated with the MU
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
November 22 2019 15:53 GMT
#116
Wait they dont actually sing the "dudududududududu" in the chorus of this song? Mustve been a long time since i heard this outside of a club
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-22 15:59:23
November 22 2019 15:54 GMT
#117
On November 23 2019 00:48 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2019 00:43 Xain0n wrote:
Hm KR(soO,Solar) vs EU(Elazer, Lambo,TLO, Zanster) ZvZ is 4-4(1-2-1) right now in this tournament.

I hope Clem advancing is just the first step for his global domination of Sc2!

I dont think those ZVZ numbers mean much.

Very impressive that Clem managed to qualify but he looked so completely lost and outclassed by Zest and Stats, that I wouldnt put money on him getting far, if he hits another good toss


Those ZvZ numbers don't mean much, they just add to the substantial parity(advantage if we drag Serral in) EU Zerg players have achieved over Koreans in the last year and half at least; considering korean Zerg are on average stronger players, EU ZvZ is still best ZvZ

Clem didn't really seem that lost agains Stats, at least in g2; I didn't watch his match against Zest. Do I have to remind you we are speaking of someone who never breached ro16 in the circuit? Our baby Flash is in the making, give him time!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26181 Posts
November 22 2019 15:58 GMT
#118
On November 23 2019 00:50 Silvanel wrote:
That video was fun. So many old school attendees

Was quality stuff, damn I really need to get going to one of these.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24592 Posts
November 22 2019 16:03 GMT
#119
Did Harstem say that he hated Naniwa in his interview? : D
Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1196 Posts
November 22 2019 16:08 GMT
#120
Please post which stream Serral is on, thank you!
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