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On November 23 2019 00:54 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2019 00:48 Geo.Rion wrote:On November 23 2019 00:43 Xain0n wrote:
Hm KR(soO,Solar) vs EU(Elazer, Lambo,TLO, Zanster) ZvZ is 4-4(1-2-1) right now in this tournament.
I hope Clem advancing is just the first step for his global domination of Sc2! I dont think those ZVZ numbers mean much. Very impressive that Clem managed to qualify but he looked so completely lost and outclassed by Zest and Stats, that I wouldnt put money on him getting far, if he hits another good toss Those ZvZ numbers don't mean much, they just add to the substantial parity(advantage if we drag Serral in) EU Zerg players have achieved over Koreans in the last year and half at least; considering korean Zerg are on average stronger players, EU ZvZ is still best ZvZ  Clem didn't really seem that lost agains Stats, at least in g2; I didn't watch his match against Zest. Do I have to remind you we are speaking of someone who never breached ro16 in the circuit? Our baby Flash is in the making, give him time!
Check out Clem's game against MaNa un Nation wars. He probably has the best TvP outside Korea, just not quite good enough to take games from Zest and Stats.
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On November 23 2019 01:08 Azhrak wrote:
Please post which stream Serral is on, thank you!
BTTV or the french stream 
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Serral is on always any stream but mainstream 
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Serral is playing kinda well so far. ^^
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Thanks for the info, kind people.
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That fast BC is so bad. Why insisting on it
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Holy crap EMIL is lagging behind in that contest.
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Rare mech game, very nice
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Serral with the anit-timing, going for the break-through with +1/+1 being 12 seconds away
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Kelazur just took down Serral
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On November 23 2019 00:34 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2019 00:07 Tyrhanius wrote:On November 22 2019 23:52 Morbidius wrote:
Will we see PvZ lategame not being ridiculously favored towards one race in the next decade maybe? Lol, skytoss is a thing still since WOL. By the way 60-80 % of the protoss in diamond just doing photon rush into skytoss vs zerg. Sure eventually, when they met good master/GM player this strats stopped working during some period, but it was always incredibly easy to perform, and teamgame is full of 30 APM guys that mass carriers, because it's super strong and really hard to counter. So skytoss is probably the best start if you want to be carried above your real skill, the fact this strat hasn't been nerfed since WOL is ridiculous. It even more ridiculous to make a balance patch that make this strat OP at the highest level... In any RTS game I’ve ever played at lower levels turtling into end game units is strong because players don’t have the mechanics or know the timings to punish such styles. What are you talking about that it hasn’t been nerfed since WoL? Flux vanes was removed, Voids have been changed multiple times, archon toilet was removed, Carrier is seemingly buffed/nerfed with every other patch. As we haven’t seen the Zergs use their new toolkit yet I’d say the patch is 50% a success, in that Toss can compete with certain lategame comps Zerg have when they were failing before. The other 50% on whether I’ll judge it on is whether or not we’re just swapping borderline unkillable Zerg comps for a Protoss sky ball equivalent. Which would be extremely premature to judge given some Zergs don’t look like they even realise there has been a patch.
It was exactly the same situation in HOTS where deathball was invincible and the only way Zerg has to beat it was mass SH. Protoss cried about "not good design", and SH got removed, and the deathball rolls over Zerg.
It is the same situation, the worst is you know it's true but don't want to admit because you want to enjoy free wins thx to skytoss.
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On November 23 2019 02:36 geokilla wrote:
Kelazur just took down Serral
Where's the second stream? TakeTV2 has like 12 viewers
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On November 23 2019 02:39 Akio wrote:Where's the second stream? TakeTV2 has like 12 viewers
Take has 25k+, the secondary enlgish stream is Baestrade TV, which so far snatched the 2 Serral series
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Kelagod really loves thunderbird doesn't he
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btw, i dont get it, the mainstream shows 2 TvTs in a row, and ignoring Serral altogether
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On November 23 2019 02:41 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2019 02:39 Akio wrote:On November 23 2019 02:36 geokilla wrote:
Kelazur just took down Serral Where's the second stream? TakeTV2 has like 12 viewers Take has 25k+, the secondary enlgish stream is Baestrade TV, which so far snatched the 2 Serral series
Oh didn't realize BT was hosting it as well, thanks
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Great killer instinct from uthermal.
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