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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 18 2019 09:12 GMT
#381
On August 18 2019 18:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 18:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 18 2019 18:08 Xain0n wrote:
On August 18 2019 18:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
From the liquipedia page : If needed, an ace match will be played between blind picked players.


That's a pity, I would have loved to see Serral vs Stats.


Why would a blind pick preclude Serral vs Stats?

not preclude, but a 1/64th chance isn't exactly likely


Blind pick as in each team picks without the other team knowing who the opponent is picking I assume. Not random pick.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
August 18 2019 09:16 GMT
#382
On August 18 2019 18:12 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 18:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 18 2019 18:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 18 2019 18:08 Xain0n wrote:
On August 18 2019 18:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
From the liquipedia page : If needed, an ace match will be played between blind picked players.


That's a pity, I would have loved to see Serral vs Stats.


Why would a blind pick preclude Serral vs Stats?

not preclude, but a 1/64th chance isn't exactly likely


Blind pick as in each team picks without the other team knowing who the opponent is picking I assume. Not random pick.


Ah, well, if that's the case I'm fine with it.
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
540 Posts
August 18 2019 09:17 GMT
#383
I hope Elazer has 5-6 all-ins prepared.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
August 18 2019 09:17 GMT
#384
On August 18 2019 18:12 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 18:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 18 2019 18:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 18 2019 18:08 Xain0n wrote:
On August 18 2019 18:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
From the liquipedia page : If needed, an ace match will be played between blind picked players.


That's a pity, I would have loved to see Serral vs Stats.


Why would a blind pick preclude Serral vs Stats?

not preclude, but a 1/64th chance isn't exactly likely


Blind pick as in each team picks without the other team knowing who the opponent is picking I assume. Not random pick.

oh that'd be much better and you're probably right. Glad I misunderstood.
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
August 18 2019 09:17 GMT
#385
LOL
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
August 18 2019 09:17 GMT
#386
OMG soO has lost again. Priceless.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
August 18 2019 09:17 GMT
#387
holy shit those signs :D
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 18 2019 09:17 GMT
#388
HAHA savage!
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
August 18 2019 09:18 GMT
#389
Oof
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
feebas
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland268 Posts
August 18 2019 09:18 GMT
#390
classic lol
paska peli
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
August 18 2019 09:18 GMT
#391
go Trap, give us that ace match
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 18 2019 09:18 GMT
#392
Classic bringing out the Your Name soO meme.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 18 2019 09:18 GMT
#393
Koreans with the fun posters, contrary to those faceless foreigners.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Johny1
Profile Joined February 2019
Poland39 Posts
August 18 2019 09:18 GMT
#394
Classic read my mind.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
August 18 2019 09:18 GMT
#395
Serral zvz is godlike if you're not Reynor.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-18 09:19:44
August 18 2019 09:19 GMT
#396
Ace match gonna be Reynor and.... Maru. I'd love it. Heromarine pls don't win lol.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
August 18 2019 09:19 GMT
#397
I don't think I'll ever understand the disrespect for Roach Wars, these are some of my absolute favorite games, something about the Roach makes it an ideal unit to watch for me visually, range isn't too long so the positioning feels like it matters more and is easier to see, they're also rather tanky so the fights don't end instantly.

ALL HAIL ROACH WARS
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
August 18 2019 09:19 GMT
#398
On August 18 2019 18:07 NotSoHappy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 17:46 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 18 2019 17:43 NotSoHappy wrote:
On August 18 2019 17:40 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 18 2019 17:36 Die4Ever wrote:
On August 18 2019 17:35 NotSoHappy wrote:
can someone point me the time in sc2 history that terran wasnt whinning?

back in the GOMTvT days
maybe a bit during Taeja's prime?


Taeja did well a lot when the rest of the terrans weren't, so I think there was quite a bit of whining there. There wasn't too much terran whining during hellbat drop meta.



they whinne during every era
taejas
innos
marus

everytime its not enough, even with most premier title wins its not enough
just one race, no matter if p or z is stronger for a LITTLE bit they lose their minds
im watching this for years and terrans are the worst


It's easy to explain dude.

Terran success is limited to a single amazing player at a time. At every other level including the pro level, every other player is not seeing that success.

Look what happens when Protoss or Zergs are imbalanced. They are filling entire brackets of tournaments all abusing the same strategy. Be it, Nydus Worms, Immortal All Ins, Infestor/Broodlord or Blink Stalker all ins.

It's not comparable. When was the last time we've seen a single dominant Terran strategy fill an entire bracket of a tournament? Last one I can think of is mass Reaper a couple years ago, and that shit WAS broken af.


Please, in sc2 history, 3 expansions you can't say "terrans are just better". Thats just biased opinion. You can say "terran had better luck in patches" or "terran found quality/abusive strats faster than other races and abused them better" or "terran was the most op during the early stage of the game and to this day theyre strong as hell even with all the nerfs".

Terran is the race with most premier title wins, yet you still bring the "protoss zerg abuse one strat" card. Not really they are and we aren't seeing anything close to GomTvT era. You have to realise many great players quitted this game over the years and we're left with small pool of pros that are split in various levels of skills. Maybe its true that playing terran without mistakes is harder and less forgiving than zerg or protoss, but their skill ceiling is the highest from all three races.
We should balance for the top of the top players and not gold leaguers that just can't macro properly.

We as spectators want to watch CLOSE games and not one pro abusing one strat over and over again and before you say anything I can't see Roro level of abuse this tournament, becaue not every pro did infestor BL and you can't argue that getting it was the thing that moved the game in zergs direction because of so many factors that affect this game. Meta is developping, players are trying new things and we are wasting time bitching about meaningless stuff with patch around the corner that will change things up.

Maru last year abused Raven and Proxy 2-rax builds that were hard as fuck to scout and counter properly, because of so many options. He and other terrans.

Look at the gsl standings and tell me honestly which terrans you think are underperforming due to balance, because to me they are performing for their own skill level. Maru plays worse, but so is Serral. They won a lot and people started to figure them out. That's how this game looks. It's in the best shape since many years'. I just wish they spent more time for fixing (fixing not NERFING and bandaiding) protoss.






For the record, I think Balance is pretty good at the moment outside of PvZ late game.

I'm just explaining why historically Terrans have felt like they've had more to complain about. Just because the current top player in the world is winning, it doesn't impact the rest of the scene that much except as inspiration.

The Foreign scene has historically been totally devoid of Terrans. That's not debatable, that's just a fact. The current era we're in has had more good Terran players than any era before it by a large margin. That's just one example of that.

If you go by who has the most titles only, that tells a story, but it's not the only one and it's a really narrow way of looking at things.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 18 2019 09:20 GMT
#399
What did they do to the real Heromarine for this 'healthy balance talk'?
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 18 2019 09:21 GMT
#400
"Zerg is OP because immortal all-in does not work all the time." - Trap
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
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