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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 18 2019 09:00 GMT
#361
On August 18 2019 17:58 SSNYC77 wrote:
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On August 18 2019 17:54 HolydaKing wrote:
On August 18 2019 17:53 SSNYC77 wrote:
I think there is a bit of an oversight in the rulebook, making finalists play their finals matchups before the said finals.

Nah, it's fine since they both play it.

That isnt the issue, the issue is that neither of them will play a serious game.

Elazer already played a serious game, what are you talking about. He looked dazzled he lost and he was close to winning as well.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-18 09:03:52
August 18 2019 09:01 GMT
#362
On August 18 2019 17:54 Johny1 wrote:
It's 5-1 for Koreans
Nothing change.




Well.....Serral was born. That's only difference.


What about the last two days then? Again, this doesn't imply the gap has closed but that doesn't mean it's as wide as ever, either.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 18 2019 09:02 GMT
#363
On August 18 2019 17:58 Vindicare605 wrote:
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On August 18 2019 17:56 Penev wrote:
looks like another liquibet loss, this must be the worst I ever done in one tournament lol


Are you already counting out team Serral? I'd say the last two match ups are Team Serral favored. The Ace match will probably be what decides this.


Team Dark just needs one of the next three though.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 18 2019 09:02 GMT
#364
On August 18 2019 18:00 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 17:58 SSNYC77 wrote:
On August 18 2019 17:54 HolydaKing wrote:
On August 18 2019 17:53 SSNYC77 wrote:
I think there is a bit of an oversight in the rulebook, making finalists play their finals matchups before the said finals.

Nah, it's fine since they both play it.

That isnt the issue, the issue is that neither of them will play a serious game.

Elazer already played a serious game, what are you talking about. He looked dazzled he lost and he was close to winning as well.

Come on, if he plays seriously a foreigner can't possibly lose to a Korean, the GAP is too big.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17744 Posts
August 18 2019 09:03 GMT
#365
so if we get the ace match, does it have to be korean vs foreigner? I'm guessing that restriction is lifted for the ace match
maybe Stats vs Serral?
"Expert" mods4ever.com
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 18 2019 09:04 GMT
#366
On August 18 2019 18:03 Die4Ever wrote:
so if we get the ace match, does it have to be korean vs foreigner? I'm guessing that restriction is lifted for the ace match
maybe Stats vs Serral?

Maybe the captains fight each other? =D
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
August 18 2019 09:05 GMT
#367
On August 18 2019 18:03 Die4Ever wrote:
so if we get the ace match, does it have to be korean vs foreigner? I'm guessing that restriction is lifted for the ace match
maybe Stats vs Serral?

yeah that restriction is lifted for the ace match
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
August 18 2019 09:06 GMT
#368
On August 18 2019 17:58 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 17:56 Penev wrote:
looks like another liquibet loss, this must be the worst I ever done in one tournament lol


Are you already counting out team Serral? I'd say the last two match ups are Team Serral favored. The Ace match will probably be what decides this.

I'm counting out my ability to predict SC2 matches properly, mostly
I Protoss winner, could it be?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
August 18 2019 09:06 GMT
#369
On August 18 2019 18:03 Die4Ever wrote:
so if we get the ace match, does it have to be korean vs foreigner? I'm guessing that restriction is lifted for the ace match
maybe Stats vs Serral?

ooooh there is an ace ? I thought a tie was possible.
NotSoHappy
Profile Joined November 2010
445 Posts
August 18 2019 09:07 GMT
#370
On August 18 2019 17:46 Vindicare605 wrote:
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On August 18 2019 17:43 NotSoHappy wrote:
On August 18 2019 17:40 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 18 2019 17:36 Die4Ever wrote:
On August 18 2019 17:35 NotSoHappy wrote:
can someone point me the time in sc2 history that terran wasnt whinning?

back in the GOMTvT days
maybe a bit during Taeja's prime?


Taeja did well a lot when the rest of the terrans weren't, so I think there was quite a bit of whining there. There wasn't too much terran whining during hellbat drop meta.



they whinne during every era
taejas
innos
marus

everytime its not enough, even with most premier title wins its not enough
just one race, no matter if p or z is stronger for a LITTLE bit they lose their minds
im watching this for years and terrans are the worst


It's easy to explain dude.

Terran success is limited to a single amazing player at a time. At every other level including the pro level, every other player is not seeing that success.

Look what happens when Protoss or Zergs are imbalanced. They are filling entire brackets of tournaments all abusing the same strategy. Be it, Nydus Worms, Immortal All Ins, Infestor/Broodlord or Blink Stalker all ins.

It's not comparable. When was the last time we've seen a single dominant Terran strategy fill an entire bracket of a tournament? Last one I can think of is mass Reaper a couple years ago, and that shit WAS broken af.


Please, in sc2 history, 3 expansions you can't say "terrans are just better". Thats just biased opinion. You can say "terran had better luck in patches" or "terran found quality/abusive strats faster than other races and abused them better" or "terran was the most op during the early stage of the game and to this day theyre strong as hell even with all the nerfs".

Terran is the race with most premier title wins, yet you still bring the "protoss zerg abuse one strat" card. Not really they are and we aren't seeing anything close to GomTvT era. You have to realise many great players quitted this game over the years and we're left with small pool of pros that are split in various levels of skills. Maybe its true that playing terran without mistakes is harder and less forgiving than zerg or protoss, but their skill ceiling is the highest from all three races.
We should balance for the top of the top players and not gold leaguers that just can't macro properly.

We as spectators want to watch CLOSE games and not one pro abusing one strat over and over again and before you say anything I can't see Roro level of abuse this tournament, becaue not every pro did infestor BL and you can't argue that getting it was the thing that moved the game in zergs direction because of so many factors that affect this game. Meta is developping, players are trying new things and we are wasting time bitching about meaningless stuff with patch around the corner that will change things up.

Maru last year abused Raven and Proxy 2-rax builds that were hard as fuck to scout and counter properly, because of so many options. He and other terrans.

Look at the gsl standings and tell me honestly which terrans you think are underperforming due to balance, because to me they are performing for their own skill level. Maru plays worse, but so is Serral. They won a lot and people started to figure them out. That's how this game looks. It's in the best shape since many years'. I just wish they spent more time for fixing (fixing not NERFING and bandaiding) protoss.




Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17744 Posts
August 18 2019 09:07 GMT
#371
On August 18 2019 18:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 18:03 Die4Ever wrote:
so if we get the ace match, does it have to be korean vs foreigner? I'm guessing that restriction is lifted for the ace match
maybe Stats vs Serral?

ooooh there is an ace ? I thought a tie was possible.

a tie? that would be serious blue balls lol
"Expert" mods4ever.com
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
August 18 2019 09:07 GMT
#372
From the liquipedia page : If needed, an ace match will be played between blind picked players.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
August 18 2019 09:08 GMT
#373
On August 18 2019 18:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
From the liquipedia page : If needed, an ace match will be played between blind picked players.


That's a pity, I would have loved to see Serral vs Stats.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 18 2019 09:09 GMT
#374
The amount of mirrors is ruining the cool match

Nerf mirror match!
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
August 18 2019 09:09 GMT
#375
On August 18 2019 18:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
From the liquipedia page : If needed, an ace match will be played between blind picked players.


I hope we can avoid another ZvZ
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
August 18 2019 09:10 GMT
#376
Wonder what would be the best and the worst ace match with a blind pick.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 18 2019 09:10 GMT
#377
On August 18 2019 18:08 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 18:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
From the liquipedia page : If needed, an ace match will be played between blind picked players.


That's a pity, I would have loved to see Serral vs Stats.


Why would a blind pick preclude Serral vs Stats?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
August 18 2019 09:11 GMT
#378
On August 18 2019 18:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 18:08 Xain0n wrote:
On August 18 2019 18:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
From the liquipedia page : If needed, an ace match will be played between blind picked players.


That's a pity, I would have loved to see Serral vs Stats.


Why would a blind pick preclude Serral vs Stats?

not preclude, but a 1/64th chance isn't exactly likely
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
August 18 2019 09:11 GMT
#379
On August 18 2019 18:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 18:08 Xain0n wrote:
On August 18 2019 18:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
From the liquipedia page : If needed, an ace match will be played between blind picked players.


That's a pity, I would have loved to see Serral vs Stats.


Why would a blind pick preclude Serral vs Stats?

None of them wear glasses.
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
August 18 2019 09:12 GMT
#380
On August 18 2019 18:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Wonder what would be the best and the worst ace match with a blind pick.


Best : Maru/Dark if they macro
Worst : ZvZ
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