EPT[GSL 2019] GSL vs. The World - Day 3 - Page 34
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24590 Posts
On August 17 2019 19:42 Noonius wrote: sc2 is a money sink and shareholders do not like that. there's no return in pumping money into sc2 If I remember how capitalism works then shouldn't they just pull back their money and refuse further investments if they can't profit from it? | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15995 Posts
On August 17 2019 19:41 feardragon wrote: If Korea can’t get a player to top 4 and all the intelligent people in this thread are right that Koreans are washed up and not as good as Europeans now, does that mean the people saying Koreans deserve ALL the opportunities because they’re better should now say we should move GSL to Europe to stop letting Koreans rob more deserving Europeans of opportunities? Yes, and WCS should be moved to korea while koreans can now double-dip GSL and WCS while foreigners can only play GSL | ||
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Archerylady
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seemsgood
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sneakyfox
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On August 17 2019 19:41 feardragon wrote: If Korea can’t get a player to top 4 and all the intelligent people in this thread are right that Koreans are washed up and not as good as Europeans now, does that mean the people saying Koreans deserve ALL the opportunities because they’re better should now say we should move GSL to Europe to stop letting Koreans rob more deserving Europeans of opportunities? What a comment. Koreans are actually BARRED from Circuit events. Nobody is barred from GSL. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15995 Posts
On August 17 2019 19:46 Archerylady wrote: Region lock isn't killing Korean SC2. Foreign scene has tons of players who never win anything, you don't see them crying about needing more money. is this sarcasm? this is exactly why region-lock got introduced. | ||
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
On August 17 2019 19:44 Pandain wrote: How did Classic get so far behind? feel like he's behind on everything atm he expanded really late because he thought Special was proxying Edit: Also, Special's harass was pretty effective. | ||
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Quasarrion
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NoS-Craig
Australia3120 Posts
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Die4Ever
United States17684 Posts
On August 17 2019 19:46 Archerylady wrote: Region lock isn't killing Korean SC2. Foreign scene has tons of players who never win anything, you don't see them crying about needing more money. Koreans just aren't interested in SC2. No need to cater to them. They get about the same money for their scene as the rest of the world combined already. I think you're half right, but region lock really dampened the momentum and interest the korean scene had, I don't think it's recoverable at this point | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On August 17 2019 19:48 sneakyfox wrote: What a comment. Koreans are actually BARRED from Circuit events. Nobody is barred from GSL. You realize that even if Koreans could play in WCS, it wouldn't save the scene? The only people who would benefit from it (enough to warrant the plane tickets) are the people who consistently and reliably beat foreigners. Those people (stats, maru, dark, classic, etc...) are not the people suffering in Korea. The people suffering in Korea (alive, Losira, ragnarok), couldn't even make it far in WCS even if they could. | ||
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Penev
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romson87
Poland487 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24590 Posts
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tigon_ridge
482 Posts
On August 17 2019 19:48 sneakyfox wrote: What a comment. Koreans are actually BARRED from Circuit events. Nobody is barred from GSL. I don't think requiring players to stay in a foreign country for 2 months is exactly attractive, though. It's practically a barring in that regard. Many of the players who decided to stay in Korea long-term eventually got burnout from the stress. I'm one of the (very few) people who don't want to see Serral in a GSL, unless he's willing to live with his brother and train there long-term, because he's shown that a big chunk of his power comes from the support of family and community. | ||
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MoDiV
United States90 Posts
On August 17 2019 19:53 Heartland wrote: I mean, Koreans are good, it's just that they tilt as soon as they begin to play a decent Westerner.  | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On August 17 2019 19:50 Pandain wrote: You realize that even if Koreans could play in WCS, it wouldn't save the scene? The only people who would benefit from it (enough to warrant the plane tickets) are the people who consistently and reliably beat foreigners. Those people (stats, maru, dark, classic, etc...) are not the people suffering in Korea. The people suffering in Korea (alive, Losira, ragnarok), couldn't even make it far in WCS even if they could. We can discuss that but that doesn't really have anything to do with Feardragon's foolish comment. Saving the scene would take years I think. But of course it would help it if there were WCS Challenger in Korea that could send players there to play. Nevertheless, if WCS actually continues and region lock is lifted I'm sure a new type of system would be better. | ||
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Penev
28495 Posts
On August 17 2019 19:53 Heartland wrote: I mean, Koreans are good, it's just that they tilt as soon as they begin to play a decent Westerner. I like the bait but I don't like you forgot about TIME | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On August 17 2019 19:54 tigon_ridge wrote: I don't think requiring players to stay in a foreign country for 2 months is exactly attractive, though. It's practically a barring in that regard. Many of the players who decided to stay in Korea long-term eventually got burnout from the stress. I'm one of the (very few) people who don't want to see Serral in a GSL, unless he's willing to live with his brother and train there long-term, because he's shown that a big chunk of his power comes from the support of family and community. It's not attractive to all but the majority of top foreigners has stayed at the team house precisely because it gives access to GSL and the Korean training environment. That's very attractive, and a number of them has actually settled there semi-permanently. | ||
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