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On August 17 2019 20:07 Die4Ever wrote:
when Neeb won KeSPA Cup, it turned out Proleague and all the teams were in the process of closing down
I hope there isn't a similar secret about to be announced soon that's weighing down on the koreans
yeah that thought entered my mind as well
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On August 17 2019 20:00 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2019 19:55 sneakyfox wrote:On August 17 2019 19:50 Pandain wrote:On August 17 2019 19:48 sneakyfox wrote:On August 17 2019 19:41 feardragon wrote:
If Korea can’t get a player to top 4 and all the intelligent people in this thread are right that Koreans are washed up and not as good as Europeans now, does that mean the people saying Koreans deserve ALL the opportunities because they’re better should now say we should move GSL to Europe to stop letting Koreans rob more deserving Europeans of opportunities? What a comment. Koreans are actually BARRED from Circuit events. Nobody is barred from GSL. You realize that even if Koreans could play in WCS, it wouldn't save the scene? The only people who would benefit from it (enough to warrant the plane tickets) are the people who consistently and reliably beat foreigners. Those people (stats, maru, dark, classic, etc...) are not the people suffering in Korea. The people suffering in Korea (alive, Losira, ragnarok), couldn't even make it far in WCS even if they could. We can discuss that but that doesn't really have anything to do with Feardragon's foolish comment. Saving the scene would take years I think. But of course it would help it if there were WCS Challenger in Korea that could send players there to play. Nevertheless, if WCS actually continues and region lock is lifted I'm sure a new type of system would be better. The only way to save the scene is to have investment. And there is no investment for korean sc2. Doesn't matter if WCS became unregion locked, because the only koreans who would benefit from that are the ones not suffering in Korea atm (stats, maru, Classic, etc...). The only thing region-locking would accomplish is hurting viewership in WCS
Regarding Korea, I just don't think it's true. You underestimate the secondary effects of Koreans going to WCS events. If they go there, they can prioritize GSL less, which leaves more room for other players. Or, every once in a while someone like Impact or Ragnarok has a good streak and goes to WCS which would obviously help that player. This IS the same as investment from the Korean perspective. If there are more tournaments, it's good for the scene. Just like Circuit is not only good for Neeb and Serral but for ALL players in non-Korea.
That said, I don't know that it would save the scene. And the problems in Korea are about many other things than region lock, of course.
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On August 17 2019 20:09 sneakyfox wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2019 20:00 Pandain wrote:On August 17 2019 19:55 sneakyfox wrote:On August 17 2019 19:50 Pandain wrote:On August 17 2019 19:48 sneakyfox wrote:On August 17 2019 19:41 feardragon wrote:
If Korea can’t get a player to top 4 and all the intelligent people in this thread are right that Koreans are washed up and not as good as Europeans now, does that mean the people saying Koreans deserve ALL the opportunities because they’re better should now say we should move GSL to Europe to stop letting Koreans rob more deserving Europeans of opportunities? What a comment. Koreans are actually BARRED from Circuit events. Nobody is barred from GSL. You realize that even if Koreans could play in WCS, it wouldn't save the scene? The only people who would benefit from it (enough to warrant the plane tickets) are the people who consistently and reliably beat foreigners. Those people (stats, maru, dark, classic, etc...) are not the people suffering in Korea. The people suffering in Korea (alive, Losira, ragnarok), couldn't even make it far in WCS even if they could. We can discuss that but that doesn't really have anything to do with Feardragon's foolish comment. Saving the scene would take years I think. But of course it would help it if there were WCS Challenger in Korea that could send players there to play. Nevertheless, if WCS actually continues and region lock is lifted I'm sure a new type of system would be better. The only way to save the scene is to have investment. And there is no investment for korean sc2. Doesn't matter if WCS became unregion locked, because the only koreans who would benefit from that are the ones not suffering in Korea atm (stats, maru, Classic, etc...). The only thing region-locking would accomplish is hurting viewership in WCS Regarding Korea, I just don't think it's true. You underestimate the secondary effects of Koreans going to WCS events. If they go there, they can prioritize GSL less, which leaves more room for other players. Or, every once in a while someone like Impact or Ragnarok has a good streak and goes to WCS which would obviously help that player. This IS the same as investment from the Korean perspective. If there are more tournaments, it's good for the scene. Just like Circuit is not only good for Neeb and Serral but for ALL players in non-Korea. That said, I don't know that it would save the scene. And the problems in Korea are about many other things than region lock, of course.
the real answer is that Blizzard needs to cancel Overwatch League and convert it into an SC2 Team League
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Canada8991 Posts
On August 17 2019 20:06 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2019 20:05 Penev wrote:
so would it be emberassing now for Major to be the one that let a Korean through? He went full korean
It's hard for foreigner living in Korea to keep up with the top, their higher base skills are enough to keep them dominant, but the lack of decent practice on the ladder is the downside of easy money.
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On August 17 2019 20:10 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2019 20:09 sneakyfox wrote:On August 17 2019 20:00 Pandain wrote:On August 17 2019 19:55 sneakyfox wrote:On August 17 2019 19:50 Pandain wrote:On August 17 2019 19:48 sneakyfox wrote:On August 17 2019 19:41 feardragon wrote:
If Korea can’t get a player to top 4 and all the intelligent people in this thread are right that Koreans are washed up and not as good as Europeans now, does that mean the people saying Koreans deserve ALL the opportunities because they’re better should now say we should move GSL to Europe to stop letting Koreans rob more deserving Europeans of opportunities? What a comment. Koreans are actually BARRED from Circuit events. Nobody is barred from GSL. You realize that even if Koreans could play in WCS, it wouldn't save the scene? The only people who would benefit from it (enough to warrant the plane tickets) are the people who consistently and reliably beat foreigners. Those people (stats, maru, dark, classic, etc...) are not the people suffering in Korea. The people suffering in Korea (alive, Losira, ragnarok), couldn't even make it far in WCS even if they could. We can discuss that but that doesn't really have anything to do with Feardragon's foolish comment. Saving the scene would take years I think. But of course it would help it if there were WCS Challenger in Korea that could send players there to play. Nevertheless, if WCS actually continues and region lock is lifted I'm sure a new type of system would be better. The only way to save the scene is to have investment. And there is no investment for korean sc2. Doesn't matter if WCS became unregion locked, because the only koreans who would benefit from that are the ones not suffering in Korea atm (stats, maru, Classic, etc...). The only thing region-locking would accomplish is hurting viewership in WCS Regarding Korea, I just don't think it's true. You underestimate the secondary effects of Koreans going to WCS events. If they go there, they can prioritize GSL less, which leaves more room for other players. Or, every once in a while someone like Impact or Ragnarok has a good streak and goes to WCS which would obviously help that player. This IS the same as investment from the Korean perspective. If there are more tournaments, it's good for the scene. Just like Circuit is not only good for Neeb and Serral but for ALL players in non-Korea. That said, I don't know that it would save the scene. And the problems in Korea are about many other things than region lock, of course. the real answer is that Blizzard needs to cancel Overwatch League and convert it into an SC2 Team League
1000 iq comment
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Germany3367 Posts
On August 17 2019 20:10 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2019 20:09 sneakyfox wrote:On August 17 2019 20:00 Pandain wrote:On August 17 2019 19:55 sneakyfox wrote:On August 17 2019 19:50 Pandain wrote:On August 17 2019 19:48 sneakyfox wrote:On August 17 2019 19:41 feardragon wrote:
If Korea can’t get a player to top 4 and all the intelligent people in this thread are right that Koreans are washed up and not as good as Europeans now, does that mean the people saying Koreans deserve ALL the opportunities because they’re better should now say we should move GSL to Europe to stop letting Koreans rob more deserving Europeans of opportunities? What a comment. Koreans are actually BARRED from Circuit events. Nobody is barred from GSL. You realize that even if Koreans could play in WCS, it wouldn't save the scene? The only people who would benefit from it (enough to warrant the plane tickets) are the people who consistently and reliably beat foreigners. Those people (stats, maru, dark, classic, etc...) are not the people suffering in Korea. The people suffering in Korea (alive, Losira, ragnarok), couldn't even make it far in WCS even if they could. We can discuss that but that doesn't really have anything to do with Feardragon's foolish comment. Saving the scene would take years I think. But of course it would help it if there were WCS Challenger in Korea that could send players there to play. Nevertheless, if WCS actually continues and region lock is lifted I'm sure a new type of system would be better. The only way to save the scene is to have investment. And there is no investment for korean sc2. Doesn't matter if WCS became unregion locked, because the only koreans who would benefit from that are the ones not suffering in Korea atm (stats, maru, Classic, etc...). The only thing region-locking would accomplish is hurting viewership in WCS Regarding Korea, I just don't think it's true. You underestimate the secondary effects of Koreans going to WCS events. If they go there, they can prioritize GSL less, which leaves more room for other players. Or, every once in a while someone like Impact or Ragnarok has a good streak and goes to WCS which would obviously help that player. This IS the same as investment from the Korean perspective. If there are more tournaments, it's good for the scene. Just like Circuit is not only good for Neeb and Serral but for ALL players in non-Korea. That said, I don't know that it would save the scene. And the problems in Korea are about many other things than region lock, of course. the real answer is that Blizzard needs to cancel Overwatch League and convert it into an SC2 Team League
Stop, I can only get SO erect.
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Equal worker count at 6.50.
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dropping the region lock would make sense if Blizzard is retracting money from the game as well btw; one scene is cheaper to support than 2 seperate ones
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Maybe not the best observing today
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On August 17 2019 20:08 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2019 20:07 Die4Ever wrote:
when Neeb won KeSPA Cup, it turned out Proleague and all the teams were in the process of closing down
I hope there isn't a similar secret about to be announced soon that's weighing down on the koreans yeah that thought entered my mind as well
Maybe only Korea knows that an alien invasion is going to happen soon, I guess we can find a correlation for korean underperformings in tournaments and conspirations all over the globe.
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On August 17 2019 20:14 Heartland wrote:
Maybe not the best observing today
long day, we're not even 2/3 done yet lol
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is it just me or does the observer keep cutting away from moments that might be good to...observe?
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Comeon Special - make it all foreigner semifinals!!
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On August 17 2019 20:15 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2019 20:08 Penev wrote:On August 17 2019 20:07 Die4Ever wrote:
when Neeb won KeSPA Cup, it turned out Proleague and all the teams were in the process of closing down
I hope there isn't a similar secret about to be announced soon that's weighing down on the koreans yeah that thought entered my mind as well Maybe only Korea knows that an alien invasion is going to happen soon, I guess we can find a correlation for korean underperformings in tournaments and conspirations all over the globe.
They knew that the GSL president was going down in the Epstein trial, and even though they sent herO to kill him, they're scared.
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Germany3367 Posts
On August 17 2019 20:15 sparklyresidue wrote:
is it just me or does the observer keep cutting away from moments that might be good to...observe?
Poor observer doesn't want to show the crimes committed against his countryman.
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On August 17 2019 20:15 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2019 20:15 Xain0n wrote:On August 17 2019 20:08 Penev wrote:On August 17 2019 20:07 Die4Ever wrote:
when Neeb won KeSPA Cup, it turned out Proleague and all the teams were in the process of closing down
I hope there isn't a similar secret about to be announced soon that's weighing down on the koreans yeah that thought entered my mind as well Maybe only Korea knows that an alien invasion is going to happen soon, I guess we can find a correlation for korean underperformings in tournaments and conspirations all over the globe. They knew that the GSL president was going down in the Epstein trial, and even though they sent herO to kill him, they're scared.
The thought of herO shading adepts into Epstein's cell and finishing him off... that made my day
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Germany3367 Posts
Man those fight are sloppy.
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On August 17 2019 20:16 sneakyfox wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2019 20:15 Heartland wrote:On August 17 2019 20:15 Xain0n wrote:On August 17 2019 20:08 Penev wrote:On August 17 2019 20:07 Die4Ever wrote:
when Neeb won KeSPA Cup, it turned out Proleague and all the teams were in the process of closing down
I hope there isn't a similar secret about to be announced soon that's weighing down on the koreans yeah that thought entered my mind as well Maybe only Korea knows that an alien invasion is going to happen soon, I guess we can find a correlation for korean underperformings in tournaments and conspirations all over the globe. They knew that the GSL president was going down in the Epstein trial, and even though they sent herO to kill him, they're scared. The thought of herO shading adepts into Epstein's cell and finishing him off... that made my day
Screw Fassbender, herO is going to be the protagonist of the new Assassin's Creed movie.
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auto-repair is so hilarious
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EPT
