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On August 17 2019 19:35 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2019 19:29 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 17 2019 19:13 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 17 2019 19:09 Vindicare605 wrote:
I don't want Serral to win this, but man I missed having Mutas in PvZ and he has been using them more than anybody. I knew they were underrated in this match up and the meta just forgot about them.
This isn't the first time Serral's won with something I've been "why don't Zergs do this" on the boards about. He did this last year when he beat Trap with Roach/Hydralisk drops. I really didn’t miss them, having flashbacks right now. I preferred playing against even BL/Infestor in WoL over Mutas Definitely smart use of them there, and lately in the meta too, Dark’s made good use of them . oh I'm sure as a Protoss you aren't happy Mutas are back. Mutas were just my favorite in ZvP when I was still a Random player. *Shudders* It’s a pleasure to watch Classic’s FPV given his lack of streaming etc, I think he has crisper mechanics than any Protoss, although I imagine players play that bit better at tournaments.
I real treat. Also interesting to see that Classic took a look at Specials build after the game ended while Special just went to the lobby.
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On August 17 2019 19:35 MockHamill wrote:
Maybe we need to keep the region lock in order to protect the Koreans?
Very original comment 
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On August 17 2019 19:35 showstealer1829 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2019 19:26 tigon_ridge wrote:On August 17 2019 19:23 Die4Ever wrote:On August 17 2019 19:21 Charoisaur wrote:
Casters celebrating the death of the korean scene I do hate when they do that, especially seems weird for Tastosis, like they're celebrating the end of their own jobs lol but we did just have a korean vs korean finals like a week ago How would this threaten the Korean scene? If anything, it would only improve it. It's complacency that is detrimental. Current talent is stagnating and the region lock means no incentive for new talent. Like I said earlier. They wanted to kill Korea and they've finally succeeded. I just hope they're happy when the game dies at the end of the year
Who are ‘they’ and why would they want that lol?
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Just woke up and checked the results... LOL
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On August 17 2019 19:35 MockHamill wrote:
Maybe we need to keep the region lock in order to protect the Koreans?
At this moment the depth of the korean scene is still way deeper even if the top foreigners are as good as the top koreans.
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On August 17 2019 19:35 showstealer1829 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2019 19:26 tigon_ridge wrote:On August 17 2019 19:23 Die4Ever wrote:On August 17 2019 19:21 Charoisaur wrote:
Casters celebrating the death of the korean scene I do hate when they do that, especially seems weird for Tastosis, like they're celebrating the end of their own jobs lol but we did just have a korean vs korean finals like a week ago How would this threaten the Korean scene? If anything, it would only improve it. It's complacency that is detrimental. Current talent is stagnating and the region lock means no incentive for new talent. Like I said earlier. They wanted to kill Korea and they've finally succeeded. I just hope they're happy when the game dies at the end of the year
It seems totally reasonable to assume that they want to kill the game.
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On August 17 2019 19:37 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2019 19:35 showstealer1829 wrote:On August 17 2019 19:26 tigon_ridge wrote:On August 17 2019 19:23 Die4Ever wrote:On August 17 2019 19:21 Charoisaur wrote:
Casters celebrating the death of the korean scene I do hate when they do that, especially seems weird for Tastosis, like they're celebrating the end of their own jobs lol but we did just have a korean vs korean finals like a week ago How would this threaten the Korean scene? If anything, it would only improve it. It's complacency that is detrimental. Current talent is stagnating and the region lock means no incentive for new talent. Like I said earlier. They wanted to kill Korea and they've finally succeeded. I just hope they're happy when the game dies at the end of the year Who are ‘they’ and why would they want that lol?
The illuminati ofc
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On August 17 2019 19:38 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2019 19:37 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 17 2019 19:35 showstealer1829 wrote:On August 17 2019 19:26 tigon_ridge wrote:On August 17 2019 19:23 Die4Ever wrote:On August 17 2019 19:21 Charoisaur wrote:
Casters celebrating the death of the korean scene I do hate when they do that, especially seems weird for Tastosis, like they're celebrating the end of their own jobs lol but we did just have a korean vs korean finals like a week ago How would this threaten the Korean scene? If anything, it would only improve it. It's complacency that is detrimental. Current talent is stagnating and the region lock means no incentive for new talent. Like I said earlier. They wanted to kill Korea and they've finally succeeded. I just hope they're happy when the game dies at the end of the year Who are ‘they’ and why would they want that lol? The illuminati ofc
apollo leads the illuminati confirmed
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On August 17 2019 19:34 tigon_ridge wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2019 19:28 Charoisaur wrote:On August 17 2019 19:26 tigon_ridge wrote:On August 17 2019 19:23 Die4Ever wrote:On August 17 2019 19:21 Charoisaur wrote:
Casters celebrating the death of the korean scene I do hate when they do that, especially seems weird for Tastosis, like they're celebrating the end of their own jobs lol but we did just have a korean vs korean finals like a week ago How would this threaten the Korean scene? If anything, it would only improve it. It's complacency that is detrimental. How would it improve it? The korean scene has to a large part foreign viewers who watch it to see "the highest level of play". Koreans getting stomped by foreigners improves the korean scene? #1 It removes the complacency, if any exists. #2 It might remove the region lock, allowing more foreigner vs korean action, which means even more foreigners viewing. I think it's all positive, and no real negative.
The current players are not complacent, that's why they're still overall the best in the world while the scene around them is crumbling. But they are aging, slowly retiring, there is no new blood and I honestly don't see a way new blood would be brought to the korean scene either.
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On August 17 2019 19:37 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2019 19:35 showstealer1829 wrote:On August 17 2019 19:26 tigon_ridge wrote:On August 17 2019 19:23 Die4Ever wrote:On August 17 2019 19:21 Charoisaur wrote:
Casters celebrating the death of the korean scene I do hate when they do that, especially seems weird for Tastosis, like they're celebrating the end of their own jobs lol but we did just have a korean vs korean finals like a week ago How would this threaten the Korean scene? If anything, it would only improve it. It's complacency that is detrimental. Current talent is stagnating and the region lock means no incentive for new talent. Like I said earlier. They wanted to kill Korea and they've finally succeeded. I just hope they're happy when the game dies at the end of the year Who are ‘they’ and why would they want that lol?
These people are hysterical. Only tournaments people can't play in are WCS, and only an extremely small minority want to have a repeat of the 2013-2015 WCS days where it was koreans taking every foreign tournament.
The slow decline of the korean scene is just reflective of the slow decline of the whole scene overall.
BTW, GSL specifically said that they don't want to region-lock GSL because it's good for viewership, so....
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I think Classic is just playing safer and harder than the other Koreans because he knows he cant go to Blizzcon and this is for sure his last season before the military. Gotta make that bank as high as he can.
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On August 17 2019 19:39 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2019 19:38 Heartland wrote:On August 17 2019 19:37 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 17 2019 19:35 showstealer1829 wrote:On August 17 2019 19:26 tigon_ridge wrote:On August 17 2019 19:23 Die4Ever wrote:On August 17 2019 19:21 Charoisaur wrote:
Casters celebrating the death of the korean scene I do hate when they do that, especially seems weird for Tastosis, like they're celebrating the end of their own jobs lol but we did just have a korean vs korean finals like a week ago How would this threaten the Korean scene? If anything, it would only improve it. It's complacency that is detrimental. Current talent is stagnating and the region lock means no incentive for new talent. Like I said earlier. They wanted to kill Korea and they've finally succeeded. I just hope they're happy when the game dies at the end of the year Who are ‘they’ and why would they want that lol? The illuminati ofc apollo leads the illuminati confirmed
How else could he have known that 4rax = mech?
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Anyways, one single tournament with a lot of outlier results doesn't really have much weight. The two prior global tournaments still showed clear Korean supremacy.
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If Korea can’t get a player to top 4 and all the intelligent people in this thread are right that Koreans are washed up and not as good as Europeans now, does that mean the people saying Koreans deserve ALL the opportunities because they’re better should now say we should move GSL to Europe to stop letting Koreans rob more deserving Europeans of opportunities?
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On August 17 2019 19:41 tigon_ridge wrote:
Anyways, one single tournament with a lot of outlier results doesn't really have much weight. The two prior global tournaments still showed clear Korean supremacy.
That's not how Starcraft works. The latest played map is what balance is judged on.
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On August 17 2019 19:41 feardragon wrote:
If Korea can’t get a player to top 4 and all the intelligent people in this thread are right that Koreans are washed up and not as good as Europeans now, does that mean the people saying Koreans deserve ALL the opportunities because they’re better should now say we should move GSL to Europe to stop letting Koreans rob more deserving Europeans of opportunities?
FearDragon, 2020
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On August 17 2019 19:37 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2019 19:35 showstealer1829 wrote:On August 17 2019 19:26 tigon_ridge wrote:On August 17 2019 19:23 Die4Ever wrote:On August 17 2019 19:21 Charoisaur wrote:
Casters celebrating the death of the korean scene I do hate when they do that, especially seems weird for Tastosis, like they're celebrating the end of their own jobs lol but we did just have a korean vs korean finals like a week ago How would this threaten the Korean scene? If anything, it would only improve it. It's complacency that is detrimental. Current talent is stagnating and the region lock means no incentive for new talent. Like I said earlier. They wanted to kill Korea and they've finally succeeded. I just hope they're happy when the game dies at the end of the year Who are ‘they’ and why would they want that lol?
sc2 is a money sink and shareholders do not like that. there's no return in pumping money into sc2
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On August 17 2019 19:41 tigon_ridge wrote:
Anyways, one single tournament with a lot of outlier results doesn't really have much weight. The two prior global tournaments still showed clear Korean supremacy.
and with Asus ROG earlier this month being dominated by Koreans
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On August 17 2019 19:41 feardragon wrote:
If Korea can’t get a player to top 4 and all the intelligent people in this thread are right that Koreans are washed up and not as good as Europeans now, does that mean the people saying Koreans deserve ALL the opportunities because they’re better should now say we should move GSL to Europe to stop letting Koreans rob more deserving Europeans of opportunities?
Could you quote the exact argument you're replying to?
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On August 17 2019 19:41 feardragon wrote:
If Korea can’t get a player to top 4 and all the intelligent people in this thread are right that Koreans are washed up and not as good as Europeans now, does that mean the people saying Koreans deserve ALL the opportunities because they’re better should now say we should move GSL to Europe to stop letting Koreans rob more deserving Europeans of opportunities?
This is too meta for me.
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