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On March 02 2019 02:56 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 02:54 Xain0n wrote:On March 02 2019 02:46 deacon.frost wrote:On March 02 2019 02:44 Xain0n wrote:On March 02 2019 02:17 Poopi wrote:On March 02 2019 02:15 Xain0n wrote:On March 02 2019 02:10 renaissanceMAN wrote:On March 02 2019 02:08 Poopi wrote:On March 02 2019 02:03 Vindicare605 wrote:On March 02 2019 02:01 Xain0n wrote:
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No way on earth Maru's kill streak was better, Serral's win streak korean was bigger and more impressive even considering koreans only. IIRC it was 16-0 before today which makes it 20-0 before losing, compared to Maru's 16-1.
Think whatever you like, Serral still advanced first in the so-called group of Death today.
The unusual thing is usually not losing series, not the opposite. People won tournaments in the past by advancing third in their groups and now a single 1-2 causes all this fuss?
I dont give a single shit about the fact that Innovation beat Serral today. In fact I'm here arguing that Serral's streak is blown completely out of proportion because a majority of it was regionlocked. We've seen tremendous kill streaks throughout SC2's history. Serral's isn't special, it's only special because he's a foreigner, and when you start taking those special considerations into perspective there are other factors like regionlocking that need to be considered also. Also, 4 straight GSL championships is WAY more impressive than anything Serral has done so far. That is a fact. Maru "only" won 3 straight. But indeed it's more impressive, I didn't think it was possible. I knew however that winning GSL vs the world and BlizzCon was possible. Or winning 4 WCS In a row, Neeb almost did it. this ^ also anyone still laughing at the stupid guy who got banned for being a chode to scarlett? You thought it was possible for a Starcraft player to never drop one series and to win every tournament he entered during the span of more than ten month? Maru has been around for nine years, that fourth is OSL that he definitely didn't win last year. But what would have happened if he entered GSL during these ten month?  that's why 10 months doesn't mean as much as you think it means With his GSL vs the World or Blizzcon's level, he would have won it. His streak would have probably been less impressive tho Serral has issues with Terrans. He wouldn't have won Code S if he had met a good Terran. No way, at his best he was so much ahead he would have beaten Maru. Anyway, that's my opinion and it's not worth discussing on opinions alone. Suuuuure, of course he would. And then he would have cured cancer. But since Serral didn't go to Korea we don't have the cure for cancer. So now I will blame Serral for this as well.
Serral last year was so good he could have gone back in time to prime Flash and beaten him in BW playing with one hand
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On March 02 2019 02:55 SC-Shield wrote:
Do you have a chance to get SC2 in-game rewards if you watch stream today or has this opportunity expired already?
You win in-game skill just by watching the pros, does that count?
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On March 02 2019 02:49 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 02:47 travis wrote:On March 02 2019 02:40 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 02:39 travis wrote:On March 02 2019 02:38 Nakajin wrote:On March 02 2019 02:37 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:On March 02 2019 02:35 deacon.frost wrote:On March 02 2019 02:34 Pandain wrote:On March 02 2019 02:32 Vindicare605 wrote:On March 02 2019 02:28 Pandain wrote:
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He didn't just "win."
He absolutely destroyed Blizzcon. Outside of the Finals, he absolutely destroyed GSL vs the World. And he just advanced first outside of the group of death. If he shows the same level of play as previous tournaments, it's not simply "winning." It's winning the three most recent biggest international tournaments over the course of 6 months. He destroyed that tournament because his main competitor proxied his way into a 3-0 loss to sOs. He won that entire tournament without beating a single Terran. Think about that? I don't WANT to make these kinds of excuses for Serral. He is legitimately an awesome player, but they are so glaring that only the most rabid delusional fanboy can ignore them. If your argument is that Serral only "destroyed" because another player lost before, your argument is really weak. I could easily say the same for GSL, saying Maru only won because his main competitor was in Finland. Yeah, Serral fanboys use that argument often, but then again - it's easier for Serral to play in GSL than for Maru to join WCS. Explain to me, how its easier. Really. Take months/years having a visa (ok sorry can't stay out of it) okay but for GSL you have to live there for months.. You have to live there for at most 3 months. TRUE and Ragnarok's visa processes went over 9 months. I don't think you guys get the point. You think it's easy for most people to leave their family and move to a foreign country where they don't speak the language for months at a time? As opposed to... flying to a tournament for a weekend or a week? And yet pro athletes do it every year. If Blizzard really cared about making their game actually as competitive as it should be, they would make this happen, they would offer Serral enough to make it happen. At this point Serral is guaranteed a massive check from Blizzard every year anyway, why not make it official and get him to play where he's actually going to be challenged because lord knows that isn't gonna happen in WCS.
Dude
1. very little percentage of pro-athletes do it
2. those who do it - it was their dream from the moment they picked up their sport
3. those athletes that come to a different country to work - they really get a very good contract with sweet living conditions. You can google this.
4. Some of those athletes then go back home literally to repair their well being.
5. Its good for you to start saying that its Blizzard (or any other organization for what its worth) give it a try.
6. If i was Serral i woulnd't even consider GSL if i wasnt treated as a rock start on tour. Seriously. But im not Serral so let's see what happens.
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uThermal bringing it to us
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I just realized. This is a skinned Terran vs a default skinned Terran. I like it, really feels appropriate lorewise for the units to look factioned like this.
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On March 02 2019 02:49 GoloSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 02:47 Charoisaur wrote:On March 02 2019 02:45 Pandain wrote:Did Serral Innovation really throw off the schedule that much? Seemed like all three streams were continually playing something but now there's always one series that is late. They should just start the other games. On March 02 2019 02:45 Charoisaur wrote:On March 02 2019 02:44 Xain0n wrote:On March 02 2019 02:17 Poopi wrote:On March 02 2019 02:15 Xain0n wrote:On March 02 2019 02:10 renaissanceMAN wrote:On March 02 2019 02:08 Poopi wrote:On March 02 2019 02:03 Vindicare605 wrote:
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I dont give a single shit about the fact that Innovation beat Serral today. In fact I'm here arguing that Serral's streak is blown completely out of proportion because a majority of it was regionlocked.
We've seen tremendous kill streaks throughout SC2's history. Serral's isn't special, it's only special because he's a foreigner, and when you start taking those special considerations into perspective there are other factors like regionlocking that need to be considered also.
Also, 4 straight GSL championships is WAY more impressive than anything Serral has done so far. That is a fact. Maru "only" won 3 straight. But indeed it's more impressive, I didn't think it was possible. I knew however that winning GSL vs the world and BlizzCon was possible. Or winning 4 WCS In a row, Neeb almost did it. this ^ also anyone still laughing at the stupid guy who got banned for being a chode to scarlett? You thought it was possible for a Starcraft player to never drop one series and to win every tournament he entered during the span of more than ten month? Maru has been around for nine years, that fourth is OSL that he definitely didn't win last year. But what would have happened if he entered GSL during these ten month? that's why 10 months doesn't mean as much as you think it means With his GSL vs the World or Blizzcon's level, he would have won it. His streak would have probably been less impressive tho He probably would have won it fixed it for you Nope, very unlikely with Maru playing there maru lost to serral at gsl vs world, so i don't think it would have been very unlikely
No he lost to stats. They didn’t face each other .
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uThermal is doing a great job of slowly chipping away at Bunny. Really fun to watch him rack up small victories and tighten the garrote more and more.
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On March 02 2019 02:59 WickedBit wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 02:49 GoloSC2 wrote:On March 02 2019 02:47 Charoisaur wrote:On March 02 2019 02:45 Pandain wrote:Did Serral Innovation really throw off the schedule that much? Seemed like all three streams were continually playing something but now there's always one series that is late. They should just start the other games. On March 02 2019 02:45 Charoisaur wrote:On March 02 2019 02:44 Xain0n wrote:On March 02 2019 02:17 Poopi wrote:On March 02 2019 02:15 Xain0n wrote:On March 02 2019 02:10 renaissanceMAN wrote:On March 02 2019 02:08 Poopi wrote:
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Maru "only" won 3 straight. But indeed it's more impressive, I didn't think it was possible. I knew however that winning GSL vs the world and BlizzCon was possible. Or winning 4 WCS In a row, Neeb almost did it. this ^ also anyone still laughing at the stupid guy who got banned for being a chode to scarlett? You thought it was possible for a Starcraft player to never drop one series and to win every tournament he entered during the span of more than ten month? Maru has been around for nine years, that fourth is OSL that he definitely didn't win last year. But what would have happened if he entered GSL during these ten month? that's why 10 months doesn't mean as much as you think it means With his GSL vs the World or Blizzcon's level, he would have won it. His streak would have probably been less impressive tho He probably would have won it fixed it for you Nope, very unlikely with Maru playing there maru lost to serral at gsl vs world, so i don't think it would have been very unlikely No he lost to stats. They didn’t face each other .
He was talking about the bo1 team competition
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On March 02 2019 02:57 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 02:49 Vindicare605 wrote:On March 02 2019 02:47 travis wrote:On March 02 2019 02:40 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 02:39 travis wrote:On March 02 2019 02:38 Nakajin wrote:On March 02 2019 02:37 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:On March 02 2019 02:35 deacon.frost wrote:On March 02 2019 02:34 Pandain wrote:On March 02 2019 02:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
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He destroyed that tournament because his main competitor proxied his way into a 3-0 loss to sOs.
He won that entire tournament without beating a single Terran. Think about that?
I don't WANT to make these kinds of excuses for Serral. He is legitimately an awesome player, but they are so glaring that only the most rabid delusional fanboy can ignore them.
If your argument is that Serral only "destroyed" because another player lost before, your argument is really weak. I could easily say the same for GSL, saying Maru only won because his main competitor was in Finland. Yeah, Serral fanboys use that argument often, but then again - it's easier for Serral to play in GSL than for Maru to join WCS. Explain to me, how its easier. Really. Take months/years having a visa (ok sorry can't stay out of it) okay but for GSL you have to live there for months.. You have to live there for at most 3 months. TRUE and Ragnarok's visa processes went over 9 months. I don't think you guys get the point. You think it's easy for most people to leave their family and move to a foreign country where they don't speak the language for months at a time? As opposed to... flying to a tournament for a weekend or a week? And yet pro athletes do it every year. If Blizzard really cared about making their game actually as competitive as it should be, they would make this happen, they would offer Serral enough to make it happen. At this point Serral is guaranteed a massive check from Blizzard every year anyway, why not make it official and get him to play where he's actually going to be challenged because lord knows that isn't gonna happen in WCS. Dude 1. very little percentage of pro-athletes do it 2. those who do it - it was their dream from the moment they picked up their sport 3. those athletes that come to a different country to work - they really get a very good contract with sweet living conditions. You can google this. 4. Some of those athletes then go back home literally to repair their well being. 5. Its good for you to start saying that its Blizzard (or any other organization for what its worth) give it a try. 6. If i was Serral i woulnd't even consider GSL if i wasnt treated as a rock start on tour. Seriously. But im not Serral so let's see what happens.
and yet Scarlett, Special, Neeb, Elazer, Ptitdrogo, SortOf and even 16 year old Reynor did it.
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uThermal getting 2/2 while bunny isn't.
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On March 02 2019 02:59 WickedBit wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 02:49 GoloSC2 wrote:On March 02 2019 02:47 Charoisaur wrote:On March 02 2019 02:45 Pandain wrote:Did Serral Innovation really throw off the schedule that much? Seemed like all three streams were continually playing something but now there's always one series that is late. They should just start the other games. On March 02 2019 02:45 Charoisaur wrote:On March 02 2019 02:44 Xain0n wrote:On March 02 2019 02:17 Poopi wrote:On March 02 2019 02:15 Xain0n wrote:On March 02 2019 02:10 renaissanceMAN wrote:On March 02 2019 02:08 Poopi wrote:
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Maru "only" won 3 straight. But indeed it's more impressive, I didn't think it was possible. I knew however that winning GSL vs the world and BlizzCon was possible. Or winning 4 WCS In a row, Neeb almost did it. this ^ also anyone still laughing at the stupid guy who got banned for being a chode to scarlett? You thought it was possible for a Starcraft player to never drop one series and to win every tournament he entered during the span of more than ten month? Maru has been around for nine years, that fourth is OSL that he definitely didn't win last year. But what would have happened if he entered GSL during these ten month? that's why 10 months doesn't mean as much as you think it means With his GSL vs the World or Blizzcon's level, he would have won it. His streak would have probably been less impressive tho He probably would have won it fixed it for you Nope, very unlikely with Maru playing there maru lost to serral at gsl vs world, so i don't think it would have been very unlikely No he lost to stats. They didn’t face each other .
Serral beat him on 1 map in the team competition
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I just noticed Bunny isn't using the skins. Such a rebel.
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Poor soO never able to show up when it actually matters.
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On March 02 2019 03:00 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
I just noticed Bunny isn't using the skins. Such a rebel.
uh will probably disqualified for this
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On March 02 2019 02:59 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 02:57 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:On March 02 2019 02:49 Vindicare605 wrote:On March 02 2019 02:47 travis wrote:On March 02 2019 02:40 Elentos wrote:On March 02 2019 02:39 travis wrote:On March 02 2019 02:38 Nakajin wrote:On March 02 2019 02:37 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:On March 02 2019 02:35 deacon.frost wrote:On March 02 2019 02:34 Pandain wrote:
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If your argument is that Serral only "destroyed" because another player lost before, your argument is really weak. I could easily say the same for GSL, saying Maru only won because his main competitor was in Finland.
Yeah, Serral fanboys use that argument often, but then again - it's easier for Serral to play in GSL than for Maru to join WCS. Explain to me, how its easier. Really. Take months/years having a visa (ok sorry can't stay out of it) okay but for GSL you have to live there for months.. You have to live there for at most 3 months. TRUE and Ragnarok's visa processes went over 9 months. I don't think you guys get the point. You think it's easy for most people to leave their family and move to a foreign country where they don't speak the language for months at a time? As opposed to... flying to a tournament for a weekend or a week? And yet pro athletes do it every year. If Blizzard really cared about making their game actually as competitive as it should be, they would make this happen, they would offer Serral enough to make it happen. At this point Serral is guaranteed a massive check from Blizzard every year anyway, why not make it official and get him to play where he's actually going to be challenged because lord knows that isn't gonna happen in WCS. Dude 1. very little percentage of pro-athletes do it 2. those who do it - it was their dream from the moment they picked up their sport 3. those athletes that come to a different country to work - they really get a very good contract with sweet living conditions. You can google this. 4. Some of those athletes then go back home literally to repair their well being. 5. Its good for you to start saying that its Blizzard (or any other organization for what its worth) give it a try. 6. If i was Serral i woulnd't even consider GSL if i wasnt treated as a rock start on tour. Seriously. But im not Serral so let's see what happens. and yet Scarlett, Special, Neeb, Elazer, Ptitdrogo, SortOf and even 16 year old Reynor did it.
also missing. Stephano, Naniwa, NoRegret, Jinro and Idra.
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On March 02 2019 02:58 Vindicare605 wrote:
I just realized. This is a skinned Terran vs a default skinned Terran. I like it, really feels appropriate lorewise for the units to look factioned like this.
it's pretty cool.
I always like imagining SC2 matches as if they were in-lore events and battles.
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On March 02 2019 03:00 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 03:00 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
I just noticed Bunny isn't using the skins. Such a rebel. uh will probably disqualified for this
charged for killing esports
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On March 02 2019 02:59 WickedBit wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 02:49 GoloSC2 wrote:On March 02 2019 02:47 Charoisaur wrote:On March 02 2019 02:45 Pandain wrote:Did Serral Innovation really throw off the schedule that much? Seemed like all three streams were continually playing something but now there's always one series that is late. They should just start the other games. On March 02 2019 02:45 Charoisaur wrote:On March 02 2019 02:44 Xain0n wrote:On March 02 2019 02:17 Poopi wrote:On March 02 2019 02:15 Xain0n wrote:On March 02 2019 02:10 renaissanceMAN wrote:On March 02 2019 02:08 Poopi wrote:
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Maru "only" won 3 straight. But indeed it's more impressive, I didn't think it was possible. I knew however that winning GSL vs the world and BlizzCon was possible. Or winning 4 WCS In a row, Neeb almost did it. this ^ also anyone still laughing at the stupid guy who got banned for being a chode to scarlett? You thought it was possible for a Starcraft player to never drop one series and to win every tournament he entered during the span of more than ten month? Maru has been around for nine years, that fourth is OSL that he definitely didn't win last year. But what would have happened if he entered GSL during these ten month? that's why 10 months doesn't mean as much as you think it means With his GSL vs the World or Blizzcon's level, he would have won it. His streak would have probably been less impressive tho He probably would have won it fixed it for you Nope, very unlikely with Maru playing there maru lost to serral at gsl vs world, so i don't think it would have been very unlikely No he lost to stats. They didn’t face each other .
They faced each other in a Bo1, in which serral did indeed defeat maru.
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