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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
March 01 2019 23:14 GMT
#2301
On March 02 2019 08:13 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 08:09 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 08:07 DieuCure wrote:
On March 02 2019 08:03 Elentos wrote:
On March 02 2019 07:54 Penev wrote:
you guys all aren't getting it

we should buy as much skins as possible and simultaneously buy activision stock before it's too late and bobby kotick can just buy 9 private jets and not 10

come on

But how is that gonna make Terran win every tournament Penev?


Because of TY 's portrait

I don't like the portraits.


But it's a TY portrait mate

I can get better pictures of TY without paying
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-01 23:19:13
March 01 2019 23:18 GMT
#2302
Assuming Serral advances to the grand final:
It is possible for there to be an all foreigner final if Neeb beats Ragnarok and Stats, and Solar beats TY and Dark (obviously i'm assuming that Neeb beats Solar).
PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN
Faker is the GOAT!
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-01 23:21:05
March 01 2019 23:20 GMT
#2303
On March 02 2019 08:18 AzAlexZ wrote:
Assuming Serral advances to the grand final:
It is possible for there to be an all foreigner final if Neeb beats Ragnarok and Stats, and Solar beats TY and Dark (obviously i'm assuming that Neeb beats Solar).
PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN


Yes sure, and my mother is a cat.
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 01 2019 23:23 GMT
#2304
On March 02 2019 08:18 AzAlexZ wrote:
Assuming Serral advances to the grand final:
It is possible for there to be an all foreigner final if Neeb beats Ragnarok and Stats, and Solar beats TY and Dark (obviously i'm assuming that Neeb beats Solar).
PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN

that is the nightmare, no way Neeb makes the final though
Proko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1022 Posts
March 01 2019 23:25 GMT
#2305
On March 02 2019 08:07 Athenau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 07:55 Proko wrote:
On March 02 2019 07:52 Athenau wrote:
On March 02 2019 07:48 Proko wrote:
On March 02 2019 07:47 Athenau wrote:
On March 02 2019 07:31 Proko wrote:
On March 02 2019 07:29 seemsgood wrote:
On March 02 2019 07:25 Proko wrote:
Lot of Terran balance whine about this tourney. Meanwhile in the GSL [image loading]

terran is batman and batman needs time dude
there kind of all-in builds in gsl i don't think terran players could spam it over and over again in weekend format


The only point I'm trying to make is that Terran seems to be doing fine at the top level, even if Katowice has been lackluster.

How is IEM not the highest level? All the top Koreans and all the top foreigners were at this tourney.


I'm pretty sure I said the opposite of what you think I said.

You said:
The only point I'm trying to make is that Terran seems to be doing fine at the top level, even if Katowice has been lackluster.

The only way you could claim this is if you considered this IEM as not being "the top level", to which I pointed out that pretty much all the best players were at this tournament.

The fact that I have to spoon feed this to you is disappointing.


Yeah, I named Katowice as part of the top level and said it was "lackluster" for terrans. It is however, a single data point. Terrans are doing great in GSL (well represented this season, TvT final last season) so maybe the balance whine is premature. That's my point.

edit: removed the snark.

1. You did _not_ name IEM as part of the top-level. You said Terrans were doing fine at the top level even if Katowice was lackluster. The two things are not equivalent.
2. 6/16 Terrans in GSL (even representation is either 5 or 6) and 1/12 terrans in IEM is not by any stretch of the imagination "fine". It's either "too early to tell" or "bad".


ok
Caster duos should compliment each others' strengths. "You look very handsome today, Tasteless."
Amarillo Caballero
Profile Joined May 2014
United States72 Posts
March 01 2019 23:42 GMT
#2306
Correct me if I am wrong but it seems like Zerg and Protoss players always root for the pros that play their race, but Terran players hope pro Terrans lose so it allows them to complain and ask for buffs. Am I wrong?
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 01 2019 23:45 GMT
#2307
On March 02 2019 08:42 Amarillo Caballero wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong but it seems like Zerg and Protoss players always root for the pros that play their race, but Terran players hope pro Terrans lose so it allows them to complain and ask for buffs. Am I wrong?

you are wrong
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
March 01 2019 23:52 GMT
#2308
On March 02 2019 08:42 Amarillo Caballero wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong but it seems like Zerg and Protoss players always root for the pros that play their race, but Terran players hope pro Terrans lose so it allows them to complain and ask for buffs. Am I wrong?

Roflmao, funniest comment so far. Terrans (like me) has never needed anything to "allow" them to ask for buffs. They do it all the time anyway =P

If I'm going to whine anyway I'd prefer for Maru to win AND I can still whine
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 02 2019 00:03 GMT
#2309
On March 02 2019 07:48 seemsgood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 07:39 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 07:31 seemsgood wrote:
On March 02 2019 07:23 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 07:21 WickedBit wrote:
Lol Serral's looking like he will get a free ride to the finals. As for TY, even if he beats Solar and Dark, he will probably loose to Stats in the semi's. So another Stats vs Serral final incoming!!

I honestly think soO is actually a threat to Serral, he always has insane zvz. But yeah overall I'm sure he is very happy with all the Protoss players on his side of the bracket

insane ???? actually his zvz makes me sad....that guy needs to avoid zvz at all cost

well his highest win rate is vs zerg and his recent zvz form is even better soooo

but according to lambo none of them(koreans) has any clue in this match up tho


Serral beat him soO 2-1 at HSC.
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
March 02 2019 00:06 GMT
#2310
On March 02 2019 07:48 seemsgood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 07:39 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 07:31 seemsgood wrote:
On March 02 2019 07:23 starkiller123 wrote:
On March 02 2019 07:21 WickedBit wrote:
Lol Serral's looking like he will get a free ride to the finals. As for TY, even if he beats Solar and Dark, he will probably loose to Stats in the semi's. So another Stats vs Serral final incoming!!

I honestly think soO is actually a threat to Serral, he always has insane zvz. But yeah overall I'm sure he is very happy with all the Protoss players on his side of the bracket

insane ???? actually his zvz makes me sad....that guy needs to avoid zvz at all cost

well his highest win rate is vs zerg and his recent zvz form is even better soooo

but according to lambo none of them(koreans) has any clue in this match up tho

Ah I see that explains how Lambo got spanked 4-1 by Dark and Leenock in his group. Obviously Lambo knows the matchup and koreans "no clue" in the matchup. -_-
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
711 Posts
March 02 2019 00:26 GMT
#2311
after just having caught up with the second half of group d, i say to myself no
"Code S > IEM > Super Tournament > Homestory Cup > Blizzcon/WESG > GSL vs The World > Invitational tournaments in China with Koreans > WCS events" - Rodya
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
March 02 2019 01:40 GMT
#2312
On March 02 2019 08:42 Amarillo Caballero wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong but it seems like Zerg and Protoss players always root for the pros that play their race, but Terran players hope pro Terrans lose so it allows them to complain and ask for buffs. Am I wrong?


You aren't wrong
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 02 2019 02:42 GMT
#2313
Group C was nuts but I'm glad Finland won the Second Hyperwar today
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
March 02 2019 02:43 GMT
#2314
On March 02 2019 08:42 Amarillo Caballero wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong but it seems like Zerg and Protoss players always root for the pros that play their race, but Terran players hope pro Terrans lose so it allows them to complain and ask for buffs. Am I wrong?


You're wrong. Terrans don't need to lose to whine. They were whining in the middle of GomTvT for the love of all that's reasonable! Terrans losing just makes it harder for the rest of us to ignore them.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 02 2019 08:38 GMT
#2315
On March 02 2019 07:55 Proko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 07:52 Athenau wrote:
On March 02 2019 07:48 Proko wrote:
On March 02 2019 07:47 Athenau wrote:
On March 02 2019 07:31 Proko wrote:
On March 02 2019 07:29 seemsgood wrote:
On March 02 2019 07:25 Proko wrote:
Lot of Terran balance whine about this tourney. Meanwhile in the GSL [image loading]

terran is batman and batman needs time dude
there kind of all-in builds in gsl i don't think terran players could spam it over and over again in weekend format


The only point I'm trying to make is that Terran seems to be doing fine at the top level, even if Katowice has been lackluster.

How is IEM not the highest level? All the top Koreans and all the top foreigners were at this tourney.


I'm pretty sure I said the opposite of what you think I said.

You said:
The only point I'm trying to make is that Terran seems to be doing fine at the top level, even if Katowice has been lackluster.

The only way you could claim this is if you considered this IEM as not being "the top level", to which I pointed out that pretty much all the best players were at this tournament.

The fact that I have to spoon feed this to you is disappointing.


Yeah, I named Katowice as part of the top level and said it was "lackluster" for terrans. It is however, a single data point. Terrans are doing great in GSL (well represented this season, TvT final last season) so maybe the balance whine is premature. That's my point.

edit: removed the snark.

So, based on the finals from September 15 on a different balance patch we can safely say Terrans are fine. Are you serious?
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
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