• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:32
CEST 13:32
KST 20:32
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers14Maestros of the Game 2 announced82026 GSL Tour plans announced14Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid24
StarCraft 2
General
Maestros of the Game 2 announced Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss Mutation # 520 Moving Fees
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion Pros React To: ASL S21, Ro.16 Group C Data needed BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [TOOL] Starcraft Chat Translator
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro16 Group C [ASL21] Ro16 Group D [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro16 Group B
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Diablo IV Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Best Vape & Smoke Shop in Rendon, Mansfield Area Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1588 users

[HSC XVIII] Group Stage - Day 1 - Page 17

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 15 16 17 All
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
November 23 2018 01:09 GMT
#321
Of course I am replying to you, I even addressed you by name. I actually don't know how to quote here on my smartphone xd

Rogue and Dark were the best zerg after Serral last year but they did not benefit from the patch.
On the other hand, Team Liquid was calling Rogue "patchzerg" at the start of 2018 after he rose to prominence from nowhere in 2017; it was just a prediction that was proven wrong since Rogue proceeded to play well and win during 2018 as well.

I knew you were not serious, but a serious answer was needed nevertheless.

Koreans still are the best, even if the best player at the moment arguably is not one of them; the real problem is not even top koreans going to the army as Rogue is not going and Dark, Solar, Maru were born in 1995-96-97, Taeja and Parting are back.
The problem is that there won't be replacements for the ones going, especially Protoss.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
November 23 2018 01:18 GMT
#322
Which patch are you even talking about?
Was there some significant Zerg buff?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-23 01:27:58
November 23 2018 01:26 GMT
#323
Technically not a single one, i'd say every patch after last balance changes in 4.3. If i remember correctly, no, they were not buffed! Probably the map pool used was someway favorable to Zerg, tho.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 23 2018 04:09 GMT
#324
Just caught up on most but not all the VODs. Amazing event like always.

My favorites were Showtime Harstem and cure Rogue
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-23 04:36:18
November 23 2018 04:33 GMT
#325
koreans cant even start 2/2 on time these days, elazer makes 31 overlords per game and somehow keeps winning, highest skill era.

I was calling Reynor the next foreign banjo prior to his Code S run, the kid is good.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
seopthi
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
395 Posts
November 23 2018 04:34 GMT
#326
On November 23 2018 09:23 Toua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2018 09:17 Topin wrote:
any recommended games?

Reynor vs, INnoVation game 2


Any other games that stood out?
repomaniak
Profile Joined January 2009
Poland324 Posts
November 23 2018 06:15 GMT
#327
HSC incontrol animation


HSC elazer village from polando / apollo scheme to destroy korean scene


HSC release the koreans


HSC crazy keyboard guy
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
November 23 2018 06:39 GMT
#328
On November 23 2018 13:34 seopthi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2018 09:23 Toua wrote:
On November 23 2018 09:17 Topin wrote:
any recommended games?

Reynor vs, INnoVation game 2


Any other games that stood out?

The PvP between Harstem and Showtime was nice.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
November 23 2018 08:16 GMT
#329
On November 23 2018 10:05 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2018 09:54 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 23 2018 09:51 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 23 2018 08:32 Bagration wrote:
On November 23 2018 08:30 D-light wrote:
These casters sure love Reynor.


He's a young foreign player with a lot of potential - it naturally gets the casters excited about the next generation of "foreign hopes"

"foreign hopes" LOL. We're more in need of getting korean hopes. Korean scene is almost dead and people still act like they're this unstoppable force that needs to be overcome.

Until the army calls they are. AFter the army calls the Korea v Foreigner lands figth is over and all the hype about beating Koreans will die out.

I already have little hype left for foreigners beating koreans because most koreans are well past their peak and every foreigner beating a korean accelerates the death of the korean scene (early knocked out players more likely to retire etc)
"Cheering" for new foreign hopes that make it even harder for the remaining koreans to earn money and force them to military sooner is weird imo.
I mean you can of course cheer for him because you like him or because he's a great talent but nowadays I think it's weird for someone to specificially want foreigners to beat koreans.



Byul retiring after losing against a foreigner in a Code S qualifier was rather alerting.
TL+ Member
SuperFanBoy
Profile Joined June 2011
New Zealand1068 Posts
November 24 2018 00:32 GMT
#330
I'm 2 hours 20mins into day1... starting to consider watching on mute as incontrol is insufferable.

I like HSC laid back approach, but incontrol takes that as a license to not care at all about the commentary.

I tune in to watch the games, if he has no interest in commentating the games then he should go sit with everyone else at the back.
Prev 1 15 16 17 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
11:00
Playoffs Day 2
Gerald vs herOLIVE!
Clem vs Cure
ByuN vs Solar
Rogue vs MaxPax
ShoWTimE vs TBD
Ryung 388
WardiTV381
IntoTheiNu 197
IndyStarCraft 91
3DClanTV 22
Liquipedia
KCM Race Survival
10:00
Week 2
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 1441
LiquipediaDiscussion
The PondCast
10:00
Episode 91
CranKy Ducklings23
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Ryung 388
OGKoka 268
Lowko255
IndyStarCraft 91
SortOf 83
BRAT_OK 73
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 43832
Sea 14959
Jaedong 1288
BeSt 457
ZerO 380
Stork 299
Zeus 255
Mini 175
Larva 172
EffOrt 161
[ Show more ]
Soulkey 158
Pusan 153
Last 149
Leta 126
Light 121
Dewaltoss 120
ToSsGirL 112
Hyun 79
Aegong 62
hero 54
scan(afreeca) 37
Backho 31
Sharp 31
[sc1f]eonzerg 31
sorry 28
910 26
Sea.KH 25
JYJ 20
Barracks 19
HiyA 14
JulyZerg 14
Sexy 13
GoRush 11
zelot 10
Terrorterran 8
IntoTheRainbow 4
ajuk12(nOOB) 2
Icarus 1
Dota 2
Gorgc3068
XaKoH 476
XcaliburYe210
BananaSlamJamma91
ODPixel57
League of Legends
KnowMe49
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2685
x6flipin474
allub306
markeloff177
edward154
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King111
Other Games
singsing1726
B2W.Neo563
crisheroes222
Livibee36
Trikslyr16
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream13324
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP54
• StrangeGG 34
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 15
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1156
• TFBlade760
• Stunt518
Upcoming Events
OSC
3h 28m
CranKy Ducklings
12h 28m
Escore
22h 28m
RSL Revival
1d 5h
Replay Cast
1d 12h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 23h
Universe Titan Cup
1d 23h
Rogue vs Percival
Ladder Legends
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL
2 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
2 days
Ladder Legends
3 days
BSL
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Soma vs hero
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Leta vs YSC
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-22
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.