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Tayar
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1439 Posts
November 03 2018 23:33 GMT
#1241
i'm amazed that an event with 70,000 viewers can't sell a single ad to an outside company.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 03 2018 23:33 GMT
#1242
On November 04 2018 08:31 Paljas wrote:
I dont understand why people consider Korean players like Maru or Stats to be the best in the world when the region lock protected them from serral all year

Okay, you win, lmao
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain880 Posts
November 03 2018 23:33 GMT
#1243
On November 04 2018 08:24 Aegwynn wrote:
Lol korean elitist still finding funny excuses and it won't finish even after he beats Stats. I guess he has to beat that player who got dumpstered 3-0 by the weakest ro8 player. Maybe next tournament, if he gets to the final..

I am not an elitist (?) and I also think that Serral cannot be considered in the list of greatest players ever by only winning week-enders. He needs to play and win GSL to be in that list.

It should not be that difficult though, we all see how good he plays.
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
November 03 2018 23:33 GMT
#1244
On November 04 2018 08:32 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 08:31 Paljas wrote:
I dont understand why people consider Korean players like Maru or Stats to be the best in the world when the region lock protected them from serral all year

On an even patch in TvZ Maru trashed Serral 3-0


Serral was jet lagged back then.
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
November 03 2018 23:33 GMT
#1245
what's the finnish word for bonjwa ? maybe that way silly korean elitist won't be bothered anymore
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
November 03 2018 23:33 GMT
#1246
I think this is the best finals we could've had but if Serral plays close to his peak level then its going to be 4-1 or 4-2 maximum
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-03 23:34:12
November 03 2018 23:33 GMT
#1247
On November 04 2018 08:33 Makro wrote:
what's the finnish word for bonjwa ? maybe that way silly korean elitist won't be bothered anymore

elfi, i guess. Wait, that's for "God". Still fits though.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2749 Posts
November 03 2018 23:34 GMT
#1248
On November 04 2018 08:24 Dream95 wrote:
some serral fanboys here are a little obnoxious aren't they lol


I was warned 40 pages before because of "fan base argument" but not this, damn it, there is a bit of biais by the mods.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4408 Posts
November 03 2018 23:34 GMT
#1249
On November 04 2018 08:25 ChaosArcher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 08:19 Zealously wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:17 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
ah the tears of all the Serral haters and korean elitists over here are going to be sweet for a long time.


You know, it's okay to think Several is merely "really good" without all the superlatives. That's not being a hater or an elitist.


merely "really good". Lol TL korean elitists are some of the weirdest people I voluntarily deal with.
I swear if Serral was born in SK and came up through some Kespa team you would worship this guy to no end. Look at the disbelief in Rogues face at the end of game 4. The formerly best macro Zerg in the world just played his heart out and he felt helpless.


If Serral was a Korean there would not be a single person calling him a bonjwa.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 03 2018 23:34 GMT
#1250
On November 04 2018 08:25 ChaosArcher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 08:19 Zealously wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:17 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
ah the tears of all the Serral haters and korean elitists over here are going to be sweet for a long time.


You know, it's okay to think Several is merely "really good" without all the superlatives. That's not being a hater or an elitist.


merely "really good". Lol TL korean elitists are some of the weirdest people I voluntarily deal with.
I swear if Serral was born in SK and came up through some Kespa team you would worship this guy to no end. Look at the disbelief in Rogues face at the end of game 4. The formerly best macro Zerg in the world just played his heart out and he felt helpless.


I don't know what it is with this ratcheted-up aggression over this. Some people (like myself) think Mvp is overrated. Some people think Stephano was never half as good as some people would have it. Some people think Taeja is one of the best if not THE very best Terran of all time, others don't. You're playing this up as if there is some monolith that automatically raises Korean high-performing players to the highest of superlatives and if the very same players had been non-Korean they would have been deemed uninteresting or unworthy of praise. I don't know where you're seeing that, but it's pretty inane. I think Serral is really good and probably a lock to either beat Stats or at least make the finals really close, but I also don't need to approve of this notion that he's doing some otherworldly thing and revolutionizing the game in a way that has never been done before. I just think he's a really good player. I don't know what your problem is with that.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Fbaby
Profile Joined November 2017
19 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-03 23:35:11
November 03 2018 23:34 GMT
#1251
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ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
November 03 2018 23:34 GMT
#1252
On November 04 2018 08:29 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 08:25 ChaosArcher wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:19 Zealously wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:17 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
ah the tears of all the Serral haters and korean elitists over here are going to be sweet for a long time.


You know, it's okay to think Several is merely "really good" without all the superlatives. That's not being a hater or an elitist.


merely "really good". Lol TL korean elitists are some of the weirdest people I voluntarily deal with.
I swear if Serral was born in SK and came up through some Kespa team you would worship this guy to no end. Look at the disbelief in Rogues face at the end of game 4. The formerly best macro Zerg in the world just played his heart out and he felt helpless.

Maru was born in SK, he dominated the Korean scene the same way Serral did thr foreign and NONE OF YOU declared him Bonjwa. By far the biggest player achievement. By far the hardest competition on the Earth. And yet the discussion was closed. And now we have Serral, who won an invitational, lsot the onlly offline game against Maru, never won Korean starleague title(not talking about back to back win), is dominating the easier competition(from the 8 best players at Blizzcon only 2 advanced from groups) and he should be declared Bonjwa because his fans say so? Seriously?


I heard the term bonjwa being dropped on Maru like a thousand times this year.
Especially after winning the third one in the row.
If Maru stomped Blizzcon like Serral is currently doing he would be a lock for bonjwa status in my book.
But he didnt. He got 3:0ed by SoS, the same player Serral made look like a fool.
Serral has to prove more to obtain bonjwa status, but the term being dropped while talking about him is not suprising.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
November 03 2018 23:34 GMT
#1253
On November 04 2018 08:28 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 08:28 Lorning wrote:
I guess this thread is still mild, if you compare it to when Stephano was winning vs Koreans

lmao agree

or even the idra's one

Idra was like a +50% page count bonus on any LR thread lol
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
November 03 2018 23:34 GMT
#1254
On November 04 2018 08:33 Nerchio wrote:
I think this is the best finals we could've had but if Serral plays close to his peak level then its going to be 4-1 or 4-2 maximum

false modesty, live up to your sig
I Protoss winner, could it be?
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
November 03 2018 23:34 GMT
#1255
On November 04 2018 08:27 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 08:24 TheDougler wrote:
You know what else is just more and more funny to me? Reynor ALMOST had him in Montreal. It was SO close. Next year is gonna be lit.


Serral didn't play even slightly close to this level back then. And If Serral played like in Montreal he would have had big trouble getting past Dark.
And I say that as a Reynor fan

I think Reynor is gonna be the next banjo
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 03 2018 23:34 GMT
#1256
On November 04 2018 08:33 Makro wrote:
what's the finnish word for bonjwa ? maybe that way silly korean elitist won't be bothered anymore


It's probably too hard to spell for anyone who isn't Finnish.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
November 03 2018 23:34 GMT
#1257
On November 04 2018 08:33 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 08:33 Makro wrote:
what's the finnish word for bonjwa ? maybe that way silly korean elitist won't be bothered anymore

elfi, i guess. Wait, that's for "God". Still fits though.

what about Raikkonenlele ?
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Fbaby
Profile Joined November 2017
19 Posts
November 03 2018 23:35 GMT
#1258
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GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
710 Posts
November 03 2018 23:35 GMT
#1259
On November 04 2018 08:32 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 08:31 Paljas wrote:
I dont understand why people consider Korean players like Maru or Stats to be the best in the world when the region lock protected them from serral all year

On an even patch in TvZ Maru trashed Serral 3-0


how very terran of you
"Code S > IEM > Super Tournament > Homestory Cup > Blizzcon/WESG > GSL vs The World > Invitational tournaments in China with Koreans > WCS events" - Rodya
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
November 03 2018 23:35 GMT
#1260
On November 04 2018 08:32 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 08:29 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:25 ChaosArcher wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:19 Zealously wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:17 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
ah the tears of all the Serral haters and korean elitists over here are going to be sweet for a long time.


You know, it's okay to think Several is merely "really good" without all the superlatives. That's not being a hater or an elitist.


merely "really good". Lol TL korean elitists are some of the weirdest people I voluntarily deal with.
I swear if Serral was born in SK and came up through some Kespa team you would worship this guy to no end. Look at the disbelief in Rogues face at the end of game 4. The formerly best macro Zerg in the world just played his heart out and he felt helpless.

Maru was born in SK, he dominated the Korean scene the same way Serral did thr foreign and NONE OF YOU declared him Bonjwa. By far the biggest player achievement. By far the hardest competition on the Earth. And yet the discussion was closed. And now we have Serral, who won an invitational, lsot the onlly offline game against Maru, never won Korean starleague title(not talking about back to back win), is dominating the easier competition(from the 8 best players at Blizzcon only 2 advanced from groups) and he should be declared Bonjwa because his fans say so? Seriously?



He is right tho... Rogue, the best Korean zerg by far, best Korean ZvZ player (maybe tied with soO) did bring our his A-game today. And it was close, but not enough. Serral is legit and deserves to be in a Bonjwa discussion at this point. Same as Maru.

None of them deserves the Bonjwa status and I am a Maru fanboy. Just sain
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
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