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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
November 03 2018 23:30 GMT
#1221
On November 04 2018 08:29 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 08:28 Lorning wrote:
I guess this thread is still mild, if you compare it to when Stephano was winning vs Koreans

Of course it is. Also compared to when Naniwa was winning.

If Naniwa was winning his games by playing like Stats does now, threads would be much milder too.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4040 Posts
November 03 2018 23:30 GMT
#1222
On November 04 2018 08:27 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 08:24 TheDougler wrote:
You know what else is just more and more funny to me? Reynor ALMOST had him in Montreal. It was SO close. Next year is gonna be lit.

Reynor vs Serral WCS Finals x4 would be an interesting storyline


yeah, it must feel pretty good to be Scarlett, Lambo and Reynor now knowing them all did better that both Dark and Rogue combined
Drone is a way of living
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16033 Posts
November 03 2018 23:30 GMT
#1223
On November 04 2018 08:29 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 08:25 ChaosArcher wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:19 Zealously wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:17 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
ah the tears of all the Serral haters and korean elitists over here are going to be sweet for a long time.


You know, it's okay to think Several is merely "really good" without all the superlatives. That's not being a hater or an elitist.


merely "really good". Lol TL korean elitists are some of the weirdest people I voluntarily deal with.
I swear if Serral was born in SK and came up through some Kespa team you would worship this guy to no end. Look at the disbelief in Rogues face at the end of game 4. The formerly best macro Zerg in the world just played his heart out and he felt helpless.

Maru was born in SK, he dominated the Korean scene the same way Serral did thr foreign and NONE OF YOU declared him Bonjwa. By far the biggest player achievement. By far the hardest competition on the Earth. And yet the discussion was closed. And now we have Serral, who won an invitational, lsot the onlly offline game against Maru, never won Korean starleague title(not talking about back to back win), is dominating the easier competition(from the 8 best players at Blizzcon only 2 advanced from groups) and he should be declared Bonjwa because his fans say so? Seriously?

go away with your logic, korean elitist - he's the first sc2 bonjwa and new GOAT and everyone who disagrees is a blind hater
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
November 03 2018 23:31 GMT
#1224
On November 04 2018 08:28 Lorning wrote:
I guess this thread is still mild, if you compare it to when Stephano was winning vs Koreans


The community was bigger and Stephano's personnality played a large role to it, he was so mich fun haha (and gave a large influence on the meta)
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
November 03 2018 23:31 GMT
#1225
On November 04 2018 08:17 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
ah the tears of all the Serral haters and korean elitists over here are going to be sweet for a long time.

I don´t dislike Serral´s play (It´s actually really good) but I hate the overhype.
Maybe I would actually support him if it wasn´t for all the victimized aura around the foreign community/commentators bias in regard to koreans.
I still like Stats to take this.

GO Stats!
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Dream95
Profile Joined August 2015
129 Posts
November 03 2018 23:31 GMT
#1226
On November 04 2018 08:25 ChaosArcher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 08:19 Zealously wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:17 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
ah the tears of all the Serral haters and korean elitists over here are going to be sweet for a long time.


You know, it's okay to think Several is merely "really good" without all the superlatives. That's not being a hater or an elitist.


merely "really good". Lol TL korean elitists are some of the weirdest people I voluntarily deal with.
I swear if Serral was born in SK and came up through some Kespa team you would worship this guy to no end. Look at the disbelief in Rogues face at the end of game 4. The formerly best macro Zerg in the world just played his heart out and he felt helpless.


stop. you're being seriously obnoxious right now. just go enjoy the game boy. stop the shitty bonjwa discussions.
Life finds a way~
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
November 03 2018 23:31 GMT
#1227
I dont understand why people consider Korean players like Maru or Stats to be the best in the world when the region lock protected them from serral all year
TL+ Member
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
November 03 2018 23:31 GMT
#1228
I'm just glad that we're filling up LR pages at a fairly rapid rate
Year of MaxPax
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16033 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-03 23:31:38
November 03 2018 23:31 GMT
#1229
On November 04 2018 08:30 HariSeldon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 08:29 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:25 Zealously wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:22 yht9657 wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:22 IshinShishi wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:17 argonautdice wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:16 IshinShishi wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:14 Philozovic wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:13 starkiller123 wrote:
really sad that serral never got to challenge korea when it was at it height in kespa, fun last game


more like really sad that kespa at it height couldn't challenge serral

Serral got really good during 2017-18, he would just get murdered during kespa era

Are you rodya's alt?

? Look at serral's history, he was nothing worthy of note during his early years. Certainly no Flash/Life

His history has just started.


If I remember correctly, Serral was actually prophesied to become a star player way, way back when it was fair to call him a kid. It's just pretty uncommon to see those predictions come true, especially like this


Yeah, for every Serral that we predict correctly, there's half a dozen Dreams in the background.

at least Dream showed us the highest level of skill we've seen in SC2 even if it was only in 2 games.


What happened to him anyway?

he retired when SKT disbanded
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 03 2018 23:31 GMT
#1230
On November 04 2018 08:30 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 08:29 HolydaKing wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:28 Lorning wrote:
I guess this thread is still mild, if you compare it to when Stephano was winning vs Koreans

Of course it is. Also compared to when Naniwa was winning.

If Naniwa was winning his games by playing like Stats does now, threads would be much milder too.


Not really. His personality was a much bigger issue than his playstyle.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
November 03 2018 23:31 GMT
#1231
On November 04 2018 08:27 mierin wrote:
What I don't get is why it isn't okay to recklessly cheer for your favorite player, exaggerate their achievements / etc. Sports has always been tribal...

Just let Serral fans have fun here, you can choose to ignore comments you don't agree with. In the ASL 6 thread I wasn't knocking everyone who thought Flash was gonna completely beat Effort...I just didn't respond and let the games speak for themselves. If Serral isn't that great, Stats will beat him and you'll have the last laugh. In the meantime just let fanboys be fanboys, on either side.


Being ridiculous is half the fun of being a fan. As long as it's not completely obnoxious seeing people build up their hopes and then being deflated is great entertainment.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
HariSeldon
Profile Joined October 2018
Sweden114 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-03 23:31:59
November 03 2018 23:31 GMT
#1232
Serral being a bonjwa is clearly not a question anymore. The question now is: is serral the king of kings, is he greater than Cyrus the second? Is he greater than Alexander of Macedonia? Is he greater than John Von Neumann. Is he the Messiah?
Liquipedias don’t win wars.
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
November 03 2018 23:32 GMT
#1233
On November 04 2018 08:29 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 08:25 ChaosArcher wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:19 Zealously wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:17 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
ah the tears of all the Serral haters and korean elitists over here are going to be sweet for a long time.


You know, it's okay to think Several is merely "really good" without all the superlatives. That's not being a hater or an elitist.


merely "really good". Lol TL korean elitists are some of the weirdest people I voluntarily deal with.
I swear if Serral was born in SK and came up through some Kespa team you would worship this guy to no end. Look at the disbelief in Rogues face at the end of game 4. The formerly best macro Zerg in the world just played his heart out and he felt helpless.

Maru was born in SK, he dominated the Korean scene the same way Serral did thr foreign and NONE OF YOU declared him Bonjwa. By far the biggest player achievement. By far the hardest competition on the Earth. And yet the discussion was closed. And now we have Serral, who won an invitational, lsot the onlly offline game against Maru, never won Korean starleague title(not talking about back to back win), is dominating the easier competition(from the 8 best players at Blizzcon only 2 advanced from groups) and he should be declared Bonjwa because his fans say so? Seriously?



He is right tho... Rogue, the best Korean zerg by far, best Korean ZvZ player (maybe tied with soO) did bring our his A-game today. And it was close, but not enough. Serral is legit and deserves to be in a Bonjwa discussion at this point. Same as Maru.
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 03 2018 23:32 GMT
#1234
On November 04 2018 08:30 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 08:27 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:24 TheDougler wrote:
You know what else is just more and more funny to me? Reynor ALMOST had him in Montreal. It was SO close. Next year is gonna be lit.

Reynor vs Serral WCS Finals x4 would be an interesting storyline


yeah, it must feel pretty good to be Scarlett, Lambo and Reynor now knowing them all did better that both Dark and Rogue combined

And it must feel good to be Dark and Rogue when they can wave the 21 and 42k they made at Blizzcon at them
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
November 03 2018 23:32 GMT
#1235
On November 04 2018 08:29 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 08:25 ChaosArcher wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:19 Zealously wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:17 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
ah the tears of all the Serral haters and korean elitists over here are going to be sweet for a long time.


You know, it's okay to think Several is merely "really good" without all the superlatives. That's not being a hater or an elitist.


merely "really good". Lol TL korean elitists are some of the weirdest people I voluntarily deal with.
I swear if Serral was born in SK and came up through some Kespa team you would worship this guy to no end. Look at the disbelief in Rogues face at the end of game 4. The formerly best macro Zerg in the world just played his heart out and he felt helpless.

Maru was born in SK, he dominated the Korean scene the same way Serral did thr foreign and NONE OF YOU declared him Bonjwa.


Rofl that's just so untrue it's absurd. Here's a list of cognitive distortions:

https://psychcentral.com/lib/15-common-cognitive-distortions/

Find me which ones of those you're NOT succumbing to right now.

Plenty of us called Maru Bonjwa. Deservedly so.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12908 Posts
November 03 2018 23:32 GMT
#1236
On November 04 2018 08:31 Paljas wrote:
I dont understand why people consider Korean players like Maru or Stats to be the best in the world when the region lock protected them from serral all year

On an even patch in TvZ Maru trashed Serral 3-0

WriterMaru
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
November 03 2018 23:32 GMT
#1237
On November 04 2018 08:31 Paljas wrote:
I dont understand why people consider Korean players like Maru or Stats to be the best in the world when the region lock protected them from serral all year

hahaha

based
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
November 03 2018 23:32 GMT
#1238
On November 04 2018 08:27 mierin wrote:
What I don't get is why it isn't okay to recklessly cheer for your favorite player, exaggerate their achievements / etc. Sports has always been tribal...

Just let Serral fans have fun here, you can choose to ignore comments you don't agree with. In the ASL 6 thread I wasn't knocking everyone who thought Flash was gonna completely beat Effort...I just didn't respond and let the games speak for themselves. If Serral isn't that great, Stats will beat him and you'll have the last laugh. In the meantime just let fanboys be fanboys, on either side.


No matter who you cheer for, you should acknowledge epic achievements. What Serral has done is simply unprecedented in the entire history of Starcraft. Its not that he is better than other dominant players before him, it's just that for the first time we are seeing a foreigner winning like this.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
November 03 2018 23:32 GMT
#1239
On November 04 2018 08:32 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 08:29 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:25 ChaosArcher wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:19 Zealously wrote:
On November 04 2018 08:17 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
ah the tears of all the Serral haters and korean elitists over here are going to be sweet for a long time.


You know, it's okay to think Several is merely "really good" without all the superlatives. That's not being a hater or an elitist.


merely "really good". Lol TL korean elitists are some of the weirdest people I voluntarily deal with.
I swear if Serral was born in SK and came up through some Kespa team you would worship this guy to no end. Look at the disbelief in Rogues face at the end of game 4. The formerly best macro Zerg in the world just played his heart out and he felt helpless.

Maru was born in SK, he dominated the Korean scene the same way Serral did thr foreign and NONE OF YOU declared him Bonjwa. By far the biggest player achievement. By far the hardest competition on the Earth. And yet the discussion was closed. And now we have Serral, who won an invitational, lsot the onlly offline game against Maru, never won Korean starleague title(not talking about back to back win), is dominating the easier competition(from the 8 best players at Blizzcon only 2 advanced from groups) and he should be declared Bonjwa because his fans say so? Seriously?



He is right tho... Rogue, the best Korean zerg by far, best Korean ZvZ player (maybe tied with soO) did bring our his A-game today. And it was close, but not enough. Serral is legit and deserves to be in a Bonjwa discussion at this point. Same as Maru.


Well said.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
November 03 2018 23:33 GMT
#1240
On November 04 2018 08:32 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 08:31 Paljas wrote:
I dont understand why people consider Korean players like Maru or Stats to be the best in the world when the region lock protected them from serral all year

On an even patch in TvZ Maru trashed Serral 3-0


oh so it's cause of balance

of course it is
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