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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
October 28 2018 17:41 GMT
#241
not even the fullest of foreigners..

right?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
October 28 2018 17:42 GMT
#242
Sos showing the full might of Gateway Trash.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
October 28 2018 17:42 GMT
#243
wow sOs is so bad
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 28 2018 17:42 GMT
#244
and people were complaining about Has making it to blizzcon...
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Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
October 28 2018 17:42 GMT
#245
This might be the weakest I've ever seen sOs.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
October 28 2018 17:42 GMT
#246
is sOs sick too? wtf
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
October 28 2018 17:42 GMT
#247
EU terran better than Korean toss? Holy Marilyn Monroe's ghost
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12907 Posts
October 28 2018 17:43 GMT
#248
Don't throw that Gabe!!
WriterMaru
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
October 28 2018 17:43 GMT
#249
why is he running
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
October 28 2018 17:43 GMT
#250
Heromarine is so timid, damn.
OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
October 28 2018 17:43 GMT
#251
I feel like Heromarine is going to throw this lead
troi oi thang map nai!!!
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3127 Posts
October 28 2018 17:43 GMT
#252
On October 29 2018 02:43 Tsubbi wrote:
why is he running

HeroMarine is spooked, the skill level is just too high
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
October 28 2018 17:43 GMT
#253
If sOs win this...
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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
October 28 2018 17:43 GMT
#254
Way too much respect for sOs here from Big Gabe.
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Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
October 28 2018 17:43 GMT
#255
How is sOs still in this game? lol, he might actually win.
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
October 28 2018 17:43 GMT
#256
On October 29 2018 02:38 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 02:37 JoeCool wrote:
Well if sOs keeps playing like this, the only thing that could defeat Gabe is his respect for sOs.

So it's still really open.


Yeah he's way too scared.
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
October 28 2018 17:43 GMT
#257
Gabe throwing hard
dankobanana
Profile Joined February 2016
Croatia240 Posts
October 28 2018 17:43 GMT
#258
On October 29 2018 02:41 Captain Peabody wrote:
I feel like SoS's main strength in this game so far is that HeroMarine is clearly scared of him & assumes he has scary plans & has given him a lot of deference and not just killed him straight-up


he is afraid to try to throw down the hammer on s0s. could be his downfall
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
October 28 2018 17:43 GMT
#259
On October 29 2018 02:33 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 02:31 Geo.Rion wrote:
On October 29 2018 02:27 Poopi wrote:
On October 29 2018 02:26 stilt wrote:
On October 29 2018 02:13 Poopi wrote:
On October 29 2018 02:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 29 2018 02:06 Ej_ wrote:
On October 29 2018 02:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 29 2018 01:59 Poopi wrote:
On October 29 2018 01:59 Geo.Rion wrote:
kinda feel bad for Lambo, you can tell he was counting on winning g1 and 2.
Dreamcatcher is very hard vs terrans who know their business

50-50 map so should be ok if he has equal skill


Ah yes the infamous 50-50* map that zergs happen to veto all the time.

* statistics from Liquipedia pulling from unknown pool of tournaments

maps are either even or OP for zerg, you should've learned that by now


At one point the stats for Darkness Sanctuary heavily favoured terran because the stats were pulled from like 1 GSL game, a few ONPOONG games, and half a dozen games from some teamleague between diamond players.

Dreamcatcher is 49.6/50.4 over more than 360 games


Well, there are stats and then there are the numerous statements of pro who all agree (at least the zerg) that's one of the most difficult map for Z.
If you look at aligulac from February/march 2014, protoss does not look that successfull while the race accomplished numeros feat : 5 straight premier tournament win with different players and some pvp (even Z while BL/infest did not achieve this) with a representation in gsl only exceeded by the terran area of gomtvt, I think that's at this time I stopped considered aligulac for balance issue.

My point of view is that this map is a very bad map for zerg in a very good patch for zerg so statistically it's 50-50 but it feels horrible to play as zerg because things ain't going as smoothly as they do on most maps.

But factually it's a "50-50 map" statistically, that's all I'm saying
On another patch it could probably go 55 for terran

No offence, you put a TONE of work in compiling all those stats, so obviously you re defensive about it. That s cool.

If those overal stats that you pulled together would be representative for this tournament, we would have had 8-11 zergs qualifying. We have 5.
Zergs did well in a lot of series that didnt matter. That scews the stats, you cannot blindly rely on those.


That's not how it works for the 8-11 zergs thingy
You can say that about every map

And I don't rely on the stats, I'm just stating the fact: it's a 50-50 map as of now. Nothing more to seek, I'm not saying it's a good or bad map for zerg, nor am I saying you have 50-50 shot of winning if you have a TvZ on it with two people of the same skill (because that's not how it works)

Your compiled stats for the zerg macthups show this:
TvZ: 47.6% (1045/2192)
ZvP: 53.3% (1233/2311)
All im saying, and Im not statistician, but if those stats were relevant at the highest level of play, then out of the 16 qualified people a lot more would need to be zergs. There arent. A real 5-6% edge should result in Zergs making it a lot further in the relevant tournaments. They didnt.

Someone who s into this kind of math/ creating models can run the numbers, with those presumed imbalances, run a few tournaments with 50-100 people and with the WCS point system and see how many of the 16 seats gonna get picked up by the entity which has those edge. I took a wild guess with an 8-11 interval.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45225 Posts
October 28 2018 17:44 GMT
#260
The fact that sOs is still in this game just shows that sOs on a hugely off-day is still apparently on even-ish ground with a normal HM.
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