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Ultimate Series 2018 Season 2 - Round of 8

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kaby
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation195 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-20 09:44:49
October 20 2018 09:44 GMT
#1
The 2nd round of the Ultimate Series global playoffs will be played on Saturday, Oct 20 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) and will content four Best of 5 matches between the players from the different regions. More details below.

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Round of 8 matches:
  • uThermal (T) vs Rail (P)
  • HellraiseR (P) vs Elazer (Z)
  • MaNa (P) vs MaSa (T)
  • Neeb (P) vs Serral (Z)

Broadcast will start on Saturday, Oct 20 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
  • Alex007 (RU)
  • Wardi (EN)
  • Winter (EN)
  • Mintcrystal (DE)

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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 20 2018 10:49 GMT
#2
Neeb vs Serral is pretty damn nice. Although I could imagine both of them won't show they best plays.
VanCaspel
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands250 Posts
October 20 2018 16:56 GMT
#3
Yeah - looking forward to this. Go go uThermal!
Dutch StarCraft League - www.DSCL.nl
stardog
Profile Joined August 2011
556 Posts
October 20 2018 18:15 GMT
#4
Solid groups, some great matchups in the bracket and Major tier in liquipedia - a really nice tournament! It could use more promotion, though.

First time listening to Winter's casting, it's pretty good.
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
October 20 2018 19:07 GMT
#5
I guess it's kinda interesting to see what their non-hidden builds are
Year of MaxPax
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12903 Posts
October 20 2018 19:27 GMT
#6
Neeb too good
WriterMaru
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
October 20 2018 19:31 GMT
#7
On October 21 2018 04:07 sudete wrote:
I guess it's kinda interesting to see what their non-hidden builds are

Looks like Serral only has hidden builds
very illegal and very uncool
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
October 20 2018 19:31 GMT
#8
What the fuck happen, did Serral just played shit build?
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
October 20 2018 19:45 GMT
#9
On October 21 2018 04:31 Nakajin wrote:
What the fuck happen, did Serral just played shit build?


Based on reddit comments - a combination of cross-server lag (played in EU) and focusing on dominating blizzcon. Builds for game 1 and 2 were fairly standard, but his game 3 all-in was very not serral-tier at all
Year of MaxPax
Alex007
Profile Joined December 2010
Ukraine211 Posts
October 20 2018 20:12 GMT
#10
Based on reddit comments - a combination of cross-server lag (played in EU)

Serral is in Europe, he played with minor ping advantage which Neeb has agreed for.
Senior Product Manager for ESL SC2 Pro Tour
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 20 2018 20:16 GMT
#11
Serral confirmed washed
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4511 Posts
October 20 2018 20:27 GMT
#12
On October 21 2018 04:45 sudete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2018 04:31 Nakajin wrote:
What the fuck happen, did Serral just played shit build?


Based on reddit comments - a combination of cross-server lag (played in EU) and focusing on dominating blizzcon. Builds for game 1 and 2 were fairly standard, but his game 3 all-in was very not serral-tier at all

Well reddit are notorious apologists. Worse than TL. There is an argument for saving builds for blizzcon. Always. But watch how every series "upset" between players attending blizzcon will always be chalked up to saving for blizzcon.
hi. big fan.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4511 Posts
October 20 2018 20:31 GMT
#13
On October 21 2018 05:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Serral confirmed washed

the wcs finals that we have been robbed of all year.

I wanted the torch to be directly passed dammmit
hi. big fan.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 20 2018 20:34 GMT
#14
With 2 protoss players in his group at Blizzcon it shouldn't surprise anyone he lost here. Not to take anything away from Neeb of course. Neeb in a good shape can always beat Serral, but the timing of this just doesn't make it very likely Serral would try hard.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4511 Posts
October 20 2018 20:43 GMT
#15
On October 21 2018 05:34 HolydaKing wrote:
With 2 protoss players in his group at Blizzcon it shouldn't surprise anyone he lost here. Not to take anything away from Neeb of course. Neeb in a good shape can always beat Serral, but the timing of this just doesn't make it very likely Serral would try hard.

All very true. Let's no forget Lambo said that he felt Neeb might just be the best PvZ player on the planet. He also merked Rogue in GSL in a bo 5. So i'm not so sure that blizzcon is the only factor at play here.
hi. big fan.
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
October 20 2018 21:44 GMT
#16
I find it really interesting that people are applying the logic of Serral "not trying his hardest to save his effort" to this loss, when lots of the hype around him relies on ignoring those arguments for some of his opponents at the GSL vs the world special event he competed in.

It can't be both ways: either he's not competed against the best when they're trying their hardest, or he isn't unbeatable in best of 5s against foreigners. Either way, it shows that he still has a lot to prove at Blizzcon.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
stardog
Profile Joined August 2011
556 Posts
October 20 2018 23:48 GMT
#17
The first game was symptomatic. Serral seemed to have a very good start, he killed Neeb's scouting adept and cancelled his third. Next was phoenix harassment, Serral's defense was not perfect but OK. And then he died to a timing attack.

All in all a fairly standard game, if it was e.g. Nerchio playing nobody would bat an eye but Serral isn't expected to loose in such fashion. Impossible to tell if it's a slump or if he was holding back.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-21 00:30:31
October 21 2018 00:29 GMT
#18
Neeb is good enough to beat Serral if he still has the form he showed a couple months ago. People think he's not but he is.

That being said, given these guys are 2 days away from flying to blizzcon, it's hard to take any results seriously. You could argue it's worth losing at this point to try and hide builds/learning those of other contenders.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 21 2018 06:01 GMT
#19
N33333b!!!!

The insane Serral streak is ended in brutal fashion.

http://aligulac.com/players/485-Serral/results/

damn
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12903 Posts
October 21 2018 08:26 GMT
#20
Yeah not surprising right before BlizzCon, I don’t worry for Serral.
WriterMaru
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55554 Posts
October 21 2018 08:34 GMT
#21
On October 21 2018 09:29 Fango wrote:
Neeb is good enough to beat Serral if he still has the form he showed a couple months ago. People think he's not but he is.

That being said, given these guys are 2 days away from flying to blizzcon, it's hard to take any results seriously. You could argue it's worth losing at this point to try and hide builds/learning those of other contenders.

Is Neeb gonna hide builds from Lambo? Does Serral need to hide builds from sOs/Zest? If it was me I'd have tried to get the 200$ from advancing the extra round
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-21 16:29:29
October 21 2018 13:33 GMT
#22
is there a Vod?
edit: here it is
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-21 14:16:20
October 21 2018 14:15 GMT
#23
On October 21 2018 17:34 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2018 09:29 Fango wrote:
Neeb is good enough to beat Serral if he still has the form he showed a couple months ago. People think he's not but he is.

That being said, given these guys are 2 days away from flying to blizzcon, it's hard to take any results seriously. You could argue it's worth losing at this point to try and hide builds/learning those of other contenders.

Is Neeb gonna hide builds from Lambo? Does Serral need to hide builds from sOs/Zest? If it was me I'd have tried to get the 200$ from advancing the extra round

You can never be too careful. Neeb knows Lambo will be trying to snipe him and vise versa.

Last year didn't herO admit he was hiding builds from Elazer when they played in online cups before blizzcon?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
RandomPlayer
Profile Joined April 2012
Russian Federation398 Posts
October 21 2018 17:48 GMT
#24
Organizers, Masa was late twice. I don't get it why you waited for him, a free win should have been given to his opponent.
It's rude and impolite to be late, as a result the finals are so late I can't watch them (from europe).
Alex007
Profile Joined December 2010
Ukraine211 Posts
October 21 2018 19:55 GMT
#25
MaSa wasn't late today, he arrived exactly at 19:00 CEST. The game started later on stream because of 3 mins delay.
Senior Product Manager for ESL SC2 Pro Tour
boshboston
Profile Joined October 2018
1 Post
Last Edited: 2018-10-23 21:14:15
October 23 2018 21:14 GMT
#26
Bot edit.

User was banned for this post.
denisbill11
Profile Joined October 2018
1 Post
October 24 2018 08:55 GMT
#27
With 2 Protoss players in his group at Blizzcon, it shouldn't surprise anyone he lost here. Not to take anything away from Neeb of course. Neeb in a good shape can always beat Serral, but the timing of this just doesn't make it very likely Serral would try hard. Canon printer error b200
yazidmokicko
Profile Joined November 2018
4 Posts
November 04 2018 15:35 GMT
#28
On October 20 2018 18:44 kaby wrote:
The 2nd round of the Ultimate Series global playoffs will be played on Saturday, Oct 20 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) and will content four Best of 5 matches between the players from the different regions. More details below.

[image loading]

Round of 8 matches:
  • uThermal (T) vs Rail (P)
  • HellraiseR (P) vs Elazer (Z)
  • MaNa (P) vs MaSa (T)
  • Neeb (P) vs Serral (Z)

Broadcast will start on Saturday, Oct 20 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
  • Alex007 (RU)
  • Wardi (EN)
  • Winter (EN)
  • Mintcrystal (DE)

View on Liquipedia

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