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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51456 Posts
Poll: WCS 2018 Leipzig ChampionSerral (27) 32% Neeb (24) 28% ShoWTimE (17) 20% SpeCial (17) 20% 85 total votes Your vote: WCS 2018 Leipzig Champion (Vote): Neeb (Vote): ShoWTimE (Vote): Serral (Vote): SpeCial
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Neeb wins 4-3 vs Serral in the finals
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On January 26 2018 05:49 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2018 05:29 Durnuu wrote: But Serral has 10k MMR and is #1 on aligulac tho? He has a -3.5k MMR modifier for offline events and we all know he's going to disappoint us all by dropping out in the quarterfinals against Special or something.
It's not the quarterfinals just because the bracket didn't line up, but it's still bound to happen.
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Dominating the EU ladder and online events proves you are a very experienced ZvZ player
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United States97276 Posts
Special 4-0 Neeb in final
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I really hope SpeCial wins but it will probably be Neeb.
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MajOr wins. Those GSL experiences have to pay off.
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On January 28 2018 10:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Neeb wins 4-3 vs Serral in the finals
it's sad that you can be so easily influenced by fake news spewed out by liberal esports media
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Need needs to win another tournament in Korea otherwise he's just another turtling-till-late-game-mothership-building-carrier-amassing-patch-toss
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I have a feeling Showtime is gonna take it on home soil
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On January 28 2018 19:21 Charoisaur wrote: Serral 4-0 Neeb
jesus, are you sure you're not Finnish?
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On January 28 2018 19:37 Noonius wrote:jesus, are you sure you're not Finnish?
Deep down we all are
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if Serral wins, there should be a 1 minute grace period to post hockey gifs, starting right from the moment gg is typed in the final game. If not, mods are clearly soulless ghouls who feed on the misery of plebeians and do not even realize that memes are the only form of contemporary modern art that is acceptable in the world right now
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On January 28 2018 19:21 Charoisaur wrote: Serral 4-0 Neeb Agreed. Before he'll 3-1 Special.
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What was that weird hellbat/ghost thing last night that Special did?
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Wait, how is the grand finals not ZvZ? Isn't this breaking the rules of foreignercraft?
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On January 28 2018 19:44 Heartland wrote: What was that weird hellbat/ghost thing last night that Special did? Apparently it's TY's new favorite build and MajOr loves copycatting him.
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On January 28 2018 19:45 Heartland wrote: Wait, how is the grand finals not ZvZ? Isn't this breaking the rules of foreignercraft?
it's called an illusion of equilibrium
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Serral aside, I hope Showtime is good today.
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Head: Neeb Heart: Serral
I hope ShowTime puts up a good fight against Neeb though.
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Oh, the lies. The beautiful lies.
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showtime can't lose
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phoenix wars hype!
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I am surprised Rotti would marry a Phoenix and not a cheesier unit.
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This strat needs top gun music
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That was a hold. A good hold.
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Probes a good counter to stalkers
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that's a pretty juicy Artosis pylon you got there
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On January 28 2018 20:13 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Probes a good counter to stalkers
clearly a buff is needed
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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Main channel sleeping still?
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SpeCiaL is our only hope for Circuit Terran championship.
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Huh... so shield batteries are better than cannons at deflecting oracles. That's nice to know.
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On January 28 2018 20:22 Ciaus_Dronu wrote: Huh... so shield batteries are better than cannons at deflecting oracles. That's nice to know.
They're muuuuch better.
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That was pretty easy for Neeb.
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On January 28 2018 20:26 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 20:22 Ciaus_Dronu wrote: Huh... so shield batteries are better than cannons at deflecting oracles. That's nice to know. They're muuuuch better.
Even without support that battery looked like it would just burn half the oracle energy before a kill. I might try actually play the next PvP I get queued now 
Also RIP ShowTime
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On January 28 2018 20:28 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 20:26 Heartland wrote:On January 28 2018 20:22 Ciaus_Dronu wrote: Huh... so shield batteries are better than cannons at deflecting oracles. That's nice to know. They're muuuuch better. Even without support that battery looked like it would just burn half the oracle energy before a kill. I might try actually play the next PvP I get queued now  Also RIP ShowTime  Just hope they don't build 2 oracles. Batteries don't do anything then
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On January 28 2018 20:28 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 20:26 Heartland wrote:On January 28 2018 20:22 Ciaus_Dronu wrote: Huh... so shield batteries are better than cannons at deflecting oracles. That's nice to know. They're muuuuch better. Even without support that battery looked like it would just burn half the oracle energy before a kill. I might try actually play the next PvP I get queued now  Also RIP ShowTime 
Yeah, you'll get a few kills still if we assume that it's an Oracle that doesn't move and doesn't fire at Probes entering into Assimilators etc, but it won't be many. It's pretty normal to build a battery in your mineral line at the start of the game.
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I like how Rotti says "souszide" rather than southside.
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That was pretty brilliant from Neeb.
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I can't really see Showtime breaking Neeb with one immortal and three sentries to forcefield out the immo's and break up Showtime's army.
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Wrong strategies in g2 and g3 for Showtime. G2 his oracle did nothing, Neeb defended that really well. G3 he didn't scout the proxy and canceled Shield Battery to build a Nexus T_T.
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I'm actually liking the variety this PvP series is showing. Was getting kinda tired of turtle to Immortal/Archon/Chargelot then win/lose in one engagement.
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Neeb has the killer instinct which Showtime is lacking.
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It's showtime for Showtime now
Go use that homecountry advantage
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I'm curious, why do foreign Protosses do a different kind of wall-in in PvP than Korean Protosses? Less exposed pylon?
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Cant wait to see major/special/britney/princess kick some ass
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for a second I thought Showtime blocked his Nexus with the Pylon
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Waste of a hallucination there.
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On January 28 2018 20:45 Charoisaur wrote: for a second I thought Showtime blocked his Nexus with the Pylon "Stats strats"
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I am surprised Neeb patrols with his Phoenixes like that.
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How the fuck did you manage to mess that up Neeb?
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On January 28 2018 20:49 Heartland wrote: How the fuck did you manage to mess that up Neeb? GOAT foreigner
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Where's the +1 armour up for air ?
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On January 28 2018 20:50 egrimm wrote:Where's the +1 armour up for air ? 
for some reason he's getting +1 attack instead..
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I hope this ends with both players 200/200 phoenix but no money for new probes and it's a draw
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On January 28 2018 20:50 Heartland wrote:for some reason he's getting +1 attack instead.. maybe going for stronger late game units ie Carriers etc edit: well it backfired
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Phoenix vs Phoenix is so visually appealing
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Seems like Neeb can only 3-2. Hopefully this time he loses.
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On January 28 2018 20:49 Heartland wrote: How the fuck did you manage to mess that up Neeb? He remembered he was American.
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CAN NEEB LOOSE A DECIDING MAP FOR ONCE PLS !!!
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let's test the clutchness factor then :D
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Are there still good PvP cheese strats like sOs inbase proxying herO?
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Oooh, those rails are cool.
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On January 28 2018 20:56 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Are there still good PvP cheese strats like sOs inbase proxying herO? Being born as sOs is a pretty good cheese strat in all matchups.
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On January 28 2018 20:56 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Are there still good PvP cheese strats like sOs inbase proxying herO?
I get cannon rushed 50% of all my PvPs. I hold the majority, but it's popular in Dia. I've never seen a pro do it though.
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On January 28 2018 20:59 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 20:56 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Are there still good PvP cheese strats like sOs inbase proxying herO? I get cannon rushed 50% of all my PvPs. I hold the majority, but it's popular in Dia. I've never seen a pro do it though. especially on the ramp. I know the pain.
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hmm there is gonna be +2 attack vs 0 timing for Showtime
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Can Showtime get a good timing with this army though
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On January 28 2018 21:02 egrimm wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 20:59 Heartland wrote:On January 28 2018 20:56 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Are there still good PvP cheese strats like sOs inbase proxying herO? I get cannon rushed 50% of all my PvPs. I hold the majority, but it's popular in Dia. I've never seen a pro do it though. especially on the ramp. I know the pain.
If you just scout your base after you take your gases and then put one probe on following every enemy probe and four probes on attacking every pylon, then just chrono out units it's an easy hold.
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On January 28 2018 21:03 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 21:02 egrimm wrote:On January 28 2018 20:59 Heartland wrote:On January 28 2018 20:56 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Are there still good PvP cheese strats like sOs inbase proxying herO? I get cannon rushed 50% of all my PvPs. I hold the majority, but it's popular in Dia. I've never seen a pro do it though. especially on the ramp. I know the pain. If you just scout your base after you take your gases and then put one probe on following every enemy probe and four probes on attacking every pylon, then just chrono out units it's an easy hold.
if it in my base then i can defend. Problem is when they black my ramp with pylon and cannon rush the ramp then cancel pylon.
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finally EU takes it's rightful place
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HE DID IT !!!!!!!!!!! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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Italy3220 Posts
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GEE GEE!!! Well done ShowTime! Getting through on the home ground.
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Australia18228 Posts
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wow. so well played by showtime
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France12761 Posts
Gratz! A bit sad for Neeb but it's great to see ShoWTimE back at top level offline
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On January 28 2018 21:04 egrimm wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 21:03 Heartland wrote:On January 28 2018 21:02 egrimm wrote:On January 28 2018 20:59 Heartland wrote:On January 28 2018 20:56 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Are there still good PvP cheese strats like sOs inbase proxying herO? I get cannon rushed 50% of all my PvPs. I hold the majority, but it's popular in Dia. I've never seen a pro do it though. especially on the ramp. I know the pain. If you just scout your base after you take your gases and then put one probe on following every enemy probe and four probes on attacking every pylon, then just chrono out units it's an easy hold. if it in my base then i can defend. Problem is when they black my ramp with pylon and cannon rush the ramp then cancel pylon.
but how can they do that before you got your core out? It's at least 300 minerals to block the ramp.
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On January 28 2018 21:06 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 21:04 egrimm wrote:On January 28 2018 21:03 Heartland wrote:On January 28 2018 21:02 egrimm wrote:On January 28 2018 20:59 Heartland wrote:On January 28 2018 20:56 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Are there still good PvP cheese strats like sOs inbase proxying herO? I get cannon rushed 50% of all my PvPs. I hold the majority, but it's popular in Dia. I've never seen a pro do it though. especially on the ramp. I know the pain. If you just scout your base after you take your gases and then put one probe on following every enemy probe and four probes on attacking every pylon, then just chrono out units it's an easy hold. if it in my base then i can defend. Problem is when they black my ramp with pylon and cannon rush the ramp then cancel pylon. but how can they do that before you got your core out? It's at least 300 minerals to block the ramp. maybe he plays zerg
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Well deserved by Showtime
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Now I'm not sure if I want Serral or Showtime to win. :D
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Good riddance Showtime :D
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On January 28 2018 21:10 HolydaKing wrote: Now I'm not sure if I want Serral or Showtime to win. :D
I believe you are German right? Obviously cheering for Tobias 'die Mauer' Sieber!
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On January 28 2018 21:11 TaKeTV wrote: Spit on the false god :D
Good one!
Really good matches so far
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I want to cheer for Protoss, but if Serral wins then there will be lots of Finns banned. What to choose?
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On January 28 2018 21:15 Heartland wrote: I want to cheer for Protoss, but if Serral wins then there will be lots of Finns banned. What to choose?
Finns will be getting banned either way
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On January 28 2018 21:06 Penev wrote: EU - NA BO3 (?)
1 - 0 yeah but NA 2-0 EU yesterday
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On January 28 2018 21:15 Heartland wrote: I want to cheer for Protoss, but if Serral wins then there will be lots of Finns banned. What to choose? You think there will be no Drunk Santas if Serral loses?
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On January 28 2018 21:15 Heartland wrote: I want to cheer for Protoss, but if Serral wins then there will be lots of Finns banned. What to choose? hockey gif flood
it's time
although drunk santa flood is fine too
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You guys are advocating finnicide
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On January 28 2018 21:16 AzAlexZ wrote:yeah but NA 2-0 EU yesterday EU was too busy closing the gap in RO8
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Poll: Semifinal 2 winner?Joona (14) 61% Juan (9) 39% 23 total votes Your vote: Semifinal 2 winner? (Vote): Joona (Vote): Juan
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Serral for the win. Someone has to defend the european zerg honour.
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Norway10161 Posts
Didnt catch any of Serrals games, but Special looked pretty dominant versus Snute yesterday.
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This a build I'm more familiar seeing in TvP.
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Both these players have sick mechanics
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THey are both playing so well
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Special is playing waay better than yesterday
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On January 28 2018 21:36 Argonauta wrote: Special is playing waay better than yesterday aaand not well enough
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XY should teach special how to set up tanks.
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Snute wasn't able to capitalise properly on special's unsplit tanks due to economy issues. Serral doesn't look to be having that problem.
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So Special didn't take the time since yesterday to learn to spread tanks when there's vipers.
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On January 28 2018 21:37 Ciaus_Dronu wrote: Snute wasn't able to capitalise properly on special's unsplit tanks due to economy issues. Serral doesn't look to be having that problem. yeah, the mm looks very different than in the games v Snute
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Specials tank line got wiped like the HotS cinematic
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Terran needs gosu ghost micro to survive in the lategame and Major doesn't have it
Textbook ZvT from Serral
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So this is the power of a 10k MMR Zerg
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On January 28 2018 21:42 pvsnp wrote: Terran needs gosu ghost micro to survive in the lategame and Major doesn't have it
Textbook ZvT from Serral first of all you need to be alive when the lategame starts
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GG Serral! His games so often look like perfect clinics on how to play a matchup.
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On January 28 2018 21:42 pvsnp wrote: Terran needs gosu ghost micro to survive in the lategame and Major doesn't have it
Textbook ZvT from Serral He was super behind since the lost fight at the gold of Serral
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On January 28 2018 21:42 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 21:42 pvsnp wrote: Terran needs gosu ghost micro to survive in the lategame and Major doesn't have it
Textbook ZvT from Serral first of all you need to be alive when the lategame starts That would help for sure.
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If Special goes mech next game, he is going to lose miserably to hydra viper broodlord.
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On January 28 2018 21:42 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 21:42 pvsnp wrote: Terran needs gosu ghost micro to survive in the lategame and Major doesn't have it
Textbook ZvT from Serral first of all you need to be alive when the lategame starts Losing all the tanks to the blinding cloud really hurt but tanks have to be sacrificed eventually anyhow
It's hardly easy but it's almost standard for Korean Terrans to lose the 2/2 push before transitioning into Ghost/Liberator
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I don't really see holes in serral's zvt. Great creep, defence and engagements.
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On January 28 2018 21:44 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 21:42 Ej_ wrote:On January 28 2018 21:42 pvsnp wrote: Terran needs gosu ghost micro to survive in the lategame and Major doesn't have it
Textbook ZvT from Serral first of all you need to be alive when the lategame starts Losing all the tanks to the blinding cloud really hurt but tanks have to be sacrificed eventually anyhow i've heard that if you kil all of them on your own with SCVs, Mvp grants you 1 wish
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Something that I really didn't like from Major was how he went for 3 factories. Sure it gives you lots of tanks but after Hive tanks are all living on borrowed time. Investing in more than 2 factories doesn't seem like a winning strategy in the long term
For bio that is, maybe Major should just mech since it doesn't look like he has the mechanics he needs to beat Serral straight-up
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10k MMR is just too much to handle.
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God I hate Zerg so much! Patch can not come fast enough.
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Or maybe he should try weird shit and instalose to a nydus. Foreign Terrans smh
Serral looking quite good, though he did get pretty lucky with the nydus
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That was quite something. Is Serral going to lose any maps in the playoffs?
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On January 28 2018 21:46 pvsnp wrote: Something that I really didn't like from Major was how he went for 3 factories. Sure it gives you lots of tanks but after Hive tanks are all living on borrowed time. Investing in more than 2 factories doesn't seem like a winning strategy in the long term
For bio that is, maybe Major should just mech since it doesn't look like he has the mechanics he needs to beat Serral straight-up I don't understand that strategy either but apparently it's quite common right now even for koreans. INnoVation did it a lot in his bo11 against Dark.
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On January 28 2018 21:51 MockHamill wrote: God I hate Zerg so much! Patch can not come fast enough. What in that game do you think the patch would have changed?
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On January 28 2018 21:51 MockHamill wrote: God I hate Zerg so much! Patch can not come fast enough. the hydralisk nerf will surely help vs roach nydus
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On January 28 2018 21:52 Azhrak wrote: That was quite something. Is Serral going to lose any maps in the playoffs? he' still allowed to lose that one map he didnt lose vs masa
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On January 28 2018 21:51 MockHamill wrote: God I hate Zerg so much! Patch can not come fast enough. Yeah wtf, they can win with All ins that are only made to counter the specific build their opponent is doing?!
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Serral too strong :x. I wonder if KR boys can even beat him
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On January 28 2018 21:52 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 21:46 pvsnp wrote: Something that I really didn't like from Major was how he went for 3 factories. Sure it gives you lots of tanks but after Hive tanks are all living on borrowed time. Investing in more than 2 factories doesn't seem like a winning strategy in the long term
For bio that is, maybe Major should just mech since it doesn't look like he has the mechanics he needs to beat Serral straight-up I don't understand that strategy either but apparently it's quite common right now even for koreans. INnoVation did it a lot in his bo11 against Dark. There was a mini-fad for a bit of going Bio/Tank but adding lots of factories and trying to go Bio/Tank/Thor against Hive tech. Inno tried it a bunch on stream but eventually gave it up.
Biomech just sucks.
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On January 28 2018 21:51 MockHamill wrote: God I hate Zerg so much! Patch can not come fast enough.
And do what? Make Special use better builds and scouting?
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On January 28 2018 21:54 Poopi wrote: Serral too strong :x. I wonder if KR boys can even beat him Of course they can. Special tries his best, but he's no TY. Nor Inno/Maru/etc.
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this is serrals tournament. showtime will loose 1-4
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On January 28 2018 21:52 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 21:51 MockHamill wrote: God I hate Zerg so much! Patch can not come fast enough. the hydralisk nerf will surely help vs roach nydus
Well, tbh invincible Nydus is kinda stupid with transfuse. You can see it coming, but when your army is just too far out on the map it's just watch and be amazed. Prior to that Overseer Serral also had no map vision, at all.
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Scarlett should have won it all. There is no justice in the world.
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On January 28 2018 21:58 Diabolique wrote: Scarlett should have won it all. There is no justice in the world. Justice always wins. Whomever wins becomes justice.
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Zerglings counter Hellions again!
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On January 28 2018 21:58 Diabolique wrote: Scarlett should have won it all. There is no justice in the world. Couldn't agree more. TBH a ro16 GSL spot should just give you a ro16 spot to play the games that players like Scarlett would start to care about playing with full effort.
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On January 28 2018 22:02 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 21:58 Diabolique wrote: Scarlett should have won it all. There is no justice in the world. Couldn't agree more. TBH a ro16 GSL spot should just give you a ro16 spot to play the games that players like Scarlett would start to care about playing with full effort. Tbh winning a tournament should just get you seeded directly into the finals of the next tournament.
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On January 28 2018 21:57 Creager wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 21:52 Ej_ wrote:On January 28 2018 21:51 MockHamill wrote: God I hate Zerg so much! Patch can not come fast enough. the hydralisk nerf will surely help vs roach nydus Well, tbh invincible Nydus is kinda stupid with transfuse. You can see it coming, but when your army is just too far out on the map it's just watch and be amazed. Prior to that Overseer Serral also had no map vision, at all. well you have to scout it beforehand. If the first time you see it is when it's in your base it's too late
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On January 28 2018 22:03 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 22:02 D-light wrote:On January 28 2018 21:58 Diabolique wrote: Scarlett should have won it all. There is no justice in the world. Couldn't agree more. TBH a ro16 GSL spot should just give you a ro16 spot to play the games that players like Scarlett would start to care about playing with full effort. Tbh winning a tournament should just get you seeded directly into the finals of the next tournament. So kinda like GSL/WCS and Blizzcon ?
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On January 28 2018 22:03 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 22:02 D-light wrote:On January 28 2018 21:58 Diabolique wrote: Scarlett should have won it all. There is no justice in the world. Couldn't agree more. TBH a ro16 GSL spot should just give you a ro16 spot to play the games that players like Scarlett would start to care about playing with full effort. Tbh winning a tournament should just get you seeded directly into the finals of the next tournament. Shoutcraft Kings does this. The tournament is a 2 player bo1
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On January 28 2018 22:04 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 22:03 pvsnp wrote:On January 28 2018 22:02 D-light wrote:On January 28 2018 21:58 Diabolique wrote: Scarlett should have won it all. There is no justice in the world. Couldn't agree more. TBH a ro16 GSL spot should just give you a ro16 spot to play the games that players like Scarlett would start to care about playing with full effort. Tbh winning a tournament should just get you seeded directly into the finals of the next tournament. So kinda like GSL/WCS and Blizzcon ?  Exactly. Rogue the Patchzerg can't risk getting knocked out early.
On January 28 2018 22:04 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 22:03 pvsnp wrote:On January 28 2018 22:02 D-light wrote:On January 28 2018 21:58 Diabolique wrote: Scarlett should have won it all. There is no justice in the world. Couldn't agree more. TBH a ro16 GSL spot should just give you a ro16 spot to play the games that players like Scarlett would start to care about playing with full effort. Tbh winning a tournament should just get you seeded directly into the finals of the next tournament. Shoutcraft Kings does this. The tournament is a 2 player bo1 Shoutcraft the only legitimate tournament confirmed
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Both are playing well, good to see.
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cleaning up creep with 4 ghosts, holding watchtowers with tanks... pretty manly
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I'm not really sold on this new Mech/Ghost style. It seems reasonably strong but it really delays upgrades and relying on Ghosts instead of Viking/Thor seems sketchy.
TY looked great against Losira, but TY could've looked great with anything against Losira.
Then again, Major just won that fight so maybe I'm talking nonsense.
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Damn, Neeb is down ;;
Least this looks like a good game
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Special, why are you so cool?
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Nestea rolling in his grave
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The freedom is strong in this game
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Serral really needs corruptors
EDIT: ZG agrees
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Damn, Serral is playing so well to be still in this game (considering his army).
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I hope special wins so we can get some more games
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Those tanks are sooooo clumped, Major never learns
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Why did Special not reexpand to the south?
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terrible angle for the BLs
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Major with the 10,001MMR level of play.
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Can't clump the tanks but also can't clump the vipers 
gg
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I don't mind more games. TvZ best.
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Special is so sick. Really want him to go to the finals as much as I like Serral.
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Why the fuck didn't Serral abduct the ghost? Both spells have the same range.
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On January 28 2018 21:06 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 21:04 egrimm wrote:On January 28 2018 21:03 Heartland wrote:On January 28 2018 21:02 egrimm wrote:On January 28 2018 20:59 Heartland wrote:On January 28 2018 20:56 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Are there still good PvP cheese strats like sOs inbase proxying herO? I get cannon rushed 50% of all my PvPs. I hold the majority, but it's popular in Dia. I've never seen a pro do it though. especially on the ramp. I know the pain. If you just scout your base after you take your gases and then put one probe on following every enemy probe and four probes on attacking every pylon, then just chrono out units it's an easy hold. if it in my base then i can defend. Problem is when they black my ramp with pylon and cannon rush the ramp then cancel pylon. but how can they do that before you got your core out? It's at least 300 minerals to block the ramp.
they use my own wall-off  2 gates on a ramp to prevent future adepts shade-ins.
I think that I should put my first gate in a way that allows to move around it from both sides, then after putting 2nd gate scout down the ramp - if cannons then cancel 2nd gate and rebuild it near 2nd pylon closer to nexus and core also.
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The mechanical god is actually ghost
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Another game lost by not building enough static defense.
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Yeah, I'm not sold on Mech/Ghost.
Managing Tanks+Libs+Ghosts is the reason why lategame bio is so hard, mech is arguably more mobile than bio at that point. Not to mention easier to control. If Major had just gone heavy on the Vikings and Thors I think he could've won much earlier.
Also his upgrades were super late, he had a bastardized mix and never even got +3 vehicle armor
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On January 28 2018 22:20 pvsnp wrote: Yeah, I'm not sold on Mech/Ghost.
Managing Tanks+Libs+Ghosts is the reason why lategame bio is so hard, mech is arguably more mobile than bio at that point. Not to mention easier to control. If Major had just gone heavy on the Vikings and Thors I think he could've won much earlier.
Also his upgrades were super late, he had a bastardized mix and never even got +3 vehicle armor Thor Viking doesn't really work vs lategame Zerg. Which is why koreans stopped making vikings and just try widow mine bombs instead. Parasitic bomb just obliterates vikings
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On January 28 2018 22:20 pvsnp wrote: Yeah, I'm not sold on Mech/Ghost.
Managing Tanks+Libs+Ghosts is the reason why lategame bio is so hard, mech is arguably more mobile than bio at that point. Not to mention easier to control. If Major had just gone heavy on the Vikings and Thors I think he could've won much earlier.
Also his upgrades were super late, he had a bastardized mix and never even got +3 vehicle armor Major wins the game "Not convincing."
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On January 28 2018 22:20 pvsnp wrote: Yeah, I'm not sold on Mech/Ghost. Managing Tanks+Libs+Ghosts is the reason why lategame bio is so hard, mech is supposed to be easier. If Major had just gone heavy on the Vikings and Thors I think he could've won much earlier.
Also his upgrades were super late, he had a bastardized mix and never even got +3 vehicle armor Both Vikings and Thors are countered by Vipers tho, as can be seen in earlier group stage when XY and other terrans tried this. In real late game scenario ghost composition feels almost always stronger.
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LL into WWW, justterranthings
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On January 28 2018 22:22 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 22:20 pvsnp wrote: Yeah, I'm not sold on Mech/Ghost.
Managing Tanks+Libs+Ghosts is the reason why lategame bio is so hard, mech is arguably more mobile than bio at that point. Not to mention easier to control. If Major had just gone heavy on the Vikings and Thors I think he could've won much earlier.
Also his upgrades were super late, he had a bastardized mix and never even got +3 vehicle armor Thor Viking doesn't really work vs lategame Zerg. Which is why koreans stopped making vikings and just try widow mine bombs instead. Parasitic bomb just obliterates vikings The PB buff really hurt Vikings, true, but the incoming nerf should help with that.
On January 28 2018 22:23 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 22:20 pvsnp wrote: Yeah, I'm not sold on Mech/Ghost.
Managing Tanks+Libs+Ghosts is the reason why lategame bio is so hard, mech is arguably more mobile than bio at that point. Not to mention easier to control. If Major had just gone heavy on the Vikings and Thors I think he could've won much earlier.
Also his upgrades were super late, he had a bastardized mix and never even got +3 vehicle armor Major wins the game "Not convincing."
I mean, that game was really close. If Serral had more corruptors the Liberators would be in a much tougher spot.
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On January 28 2018 22:24 Noonius wrote: LL into WWW, justterranthings LLWWL into whining about zerg on twitter is more of a terran thing
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On January 28 2018 22:20 pvsnp wrote: Also his upgrades were super late, he had a bastardized mix and never even got +3 vehicle armor That part of your post is accurate. Either he forgot to make a 2nd armory, or he forgot to use it. In IEM qualifiers TY played the style with double armory and later double ebay as well against soO.
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On January 28 2018 22:23 Yiome wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 22:20 pvsnp wrote: Yeah, I'm not sold on Mech/Ghost. Managing Tanks+Libs+Ghosts is the reason why lategame bio is so hard, mech is supposed to be easier. If Major had just gone heavy on the Vikings and Thors I think he could've won much earlier.
Also his upgrades were super late, he had a bastardized mix and never even got +3 vehicle armor Both Vikings and Thors are countered by Vipers tho, as can be seen in earlier group stage when XY and other terrans tried this. In real late game scenario ghost composition feels almost always stronger.
I agree that Ghost-based comps are theoretically stronger, but in practice I'm not sure the control demanded by Tank+Lib+Ghost is actually worth it.
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On January 28 2018 22:26 Ej_ wrote:LLWWL into whining about zerg on twitter is more of a terran thing loss into whining about the other race on twitter is a sc2 player thing.
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So who was saying mech was dead ?
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On January 28 2018 22:28 Parcelleus wrote: So who was saying mech was dead ? Jake Bible:
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On January 28 2018 22:28 Parcelleus wrote: So who was saying mech was dead ? nobody? Bio is dead is what's said currently
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This might just be Serrals tournament, so strong play
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On January 28 2018 22:27 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 22:20 pvsnp wrote: Also his upgrades were super late, he had a bastardized mix and never even got +3 vehicle armor That part of your post is accurate. Either he forgot to make a 2nd armory, or he forgot to use it. In IEM qualifiers TY played the style with double armory and later double ebay as well against soO. He had double armory, but either the second was late or he delayed armor, since he was getting 2/1 then 3/2
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NA?! Noooooo
oh well, ZvP > TvP finals
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Serral just looked like the stronger player here. Mechanically, tactically, strategically.. Not by a lot, but by enough.
Also Serral vs Showtime makes for a much better finals.
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When I see Serral and Neeb, I start to wonder why people complained about the Koreans' lack of personality
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On January 28 2018 22:30 Penev wrote: Europe, what a country Definitely better than North America.
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Maybe I'm just spoiled by the hype in the CSGO Boston Major, but the crowd here is full, but so dead. I was hoping for more excitement. Even when Showtime won it was quiet and that's the home crowd
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10K MMR GOD SERRAL. The way he describes looking forward to the finals is nice, he sounds like a player who genuinely enjoys the game (as opposed to just seeing it as a winning / career thing as can happen).
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On January 28 2018 22:32 Durnuu wrote:When I see Serral and Neeb, I start to wonder why people complained about the Koreans' lack of personality  Faceless foreigners
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On January 28 2018 22:32 Parrek wrote: Maybe I'm just spoiled by the hype in the CSGO Boston Major, but the crowd here is full, but so dead. I was hoping for more excitement. Even when Showtime won it was quiet and that's the home crowd sc2 is the tennis of esports, we celebrate like 10k iq gentlemen
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On January 28 2018 22:32 Parrek wrote: Maybe I'm just spoiled by the hype in the CSGO Boston Major, but the crowd here is full, but so dead. I was hoping for more excitement. Even when Showtime won it was quiet and that's the home crowd Give them a break, they're german.
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On January 28 2018 22:32 Durnuu wrote:When I see Serral and Neeb, I start to wonder why people complained about the Koreans' lack of personality  I mean Serral has a cute Finnish accent.
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On January 28 2018 22:32 Durnuu wrote:When I see Serral and Neeb, I start to wonder why people complained about the Koreans' lack of personality  Koreans are all faceless robots. Just look at MC, PartinG or Dark. Good thing we can see charismatic foreigners now instead.
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On January 28 2018 22:33 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 22:32 Parrek wrote: Maybe I'm just spoiled by the hype in the CSGO Boston Major, but the crowd here is full, but so dead. I was hoping for more excitement. Even when Showtime won it was quiet and that's the home crowd sc2 is the tennis of esports, we celebrate like 10k iq gentlemen Matchfixing?
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On January 28 2018 22:32 Parrek wrote: Maybe I'm just spoiled by the hype in the CSGO Boston Major, but the crowd here is full, but so dead. I was hoping for more excitement. Even when Showtime won it was quiet and that's the home crowd It depends on the way the croud is mic-ed as well
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On January 28 2018 22:33 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 22:32 Parrek wrote: Maybe I'm just spoiled by the hype in the CSGO Boston Major, but the crowd here is full, but so dead. I was hoping for more excitement. Even when Showtime won it was quiet and that's the home crowd sc2 is the tennis of esports, we celebrate like 10k iq gentlemen also it's in germany, cheering is inefficient use of energy
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On January 28 2018 22:31 pvsnp wrote: Serral just looked like the stronger player here. Mechanically, tactically, strategically.. Not by a lot, but by enough.
Also Serral vs Showtime makes for a much better finals. I think we couldn't have a bad finals. Special vs Showtime would have been a rare matchup and EU vs NA, Neeb vs Special has always delivered, Serral vs Neeb is a rematch, and Serral vs Showtime is the resurgence of EU and a new champion
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On January 28 2018 22:33 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 22:32 Parrek wrote: Maybe I'm just spoiled by the hype in the CSGO Boston Major, but the crowd here is full, but so dead. I was hoping for more excitement. Even when Showtime won it was quiet and that's the home crowd sc2 is the tennis of esports, we celebrate like 10k iq gentlemen
r/iamverygoodatstarcraft material right here.
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When was the last time a foreign Terran won anything? I am trying to recall but it slips my mind.
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On January 28 2018 22:33 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 22:32 Parrek wrote: Maybe I'm just spoiled by the hype in the CSGO Boston Major, but the crowd here is full, but so dead. I was hoping for more excitement. Even when Showtime won it was quiet and that's the home crowd sc2 is the tennis of esports, we celebrate like 10k iq gentlemen
Nah its just Europe.
Aussie open final was just on and it was loud as fuck. Git gud Euronerds.
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On January 28 2018 22:34 MockHamill wrote: When was the last time a foreign Terran won anything? I am trying to recall but it slips my mind. thorzain won a game in proleague after a million years
edit: thorzain vs polt ?
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On January 28 2018 22:34 MockHamill wrote: When was the last time a foreign Terran won anything? I am trying to recall but it slips my mind. Maybe this? IEM Season XI - Shanghai
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On January 28 2018 22:34 MockHamill wrote: When was the last time a foreign Terran won anything? I am trying to recall but it slips my mind. uThermal, IEM Shanghai. R E P L A C E M E N T M A N
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On January 28 2018 22:34 MockHamill wrote: When was the last time a foreign Terran won anything? I am trying to recall but it slips my mind. Jurgen winning WCS EU in 2013
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On January 28 2018 22:34 MockHamill wrote: When was the last time a foreign Terran won anything? I am trying to recall but it slips my mind.
On January 28 2018 22:34 MockHamill wrote: a foreign Terran won anything?
On January 28 2018 22:34 MockHamill wrote: foreign Terran
Found your problem.
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On January 28 2018 22:34 MockHamill wrote: When was the last time a foreign Terran won anything? I am trying to recall but it slips my mind.
Liquid Bunny vs Hyun at Gfinity in 2014 I think Edit: REPLACEMENT MAN is the real correct answer, though before that I think it was Bunny
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On January 28 2018 22:34 MockHamill wrote: When was the last time a foreign Terran won anything? I am trying to recall but it slips my mind. uThermal IEM shanghai
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this is so early... zZz i need to sleep. how were the two semis?
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On January 28 2018 22:37 Topin wrote: this is so early... zZz i need to sleep. how were the two semis? Very good, both of them
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On January 28 2018 22:37 Topin wrote: this is so early... zZz i need to sleep. how were the two semis? Yeah these finals are happening quite early
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On January 28 2018 22:37 Topin wrote: this is so early... zZz i need to sleep. how were the two semis?
I liked Serral and Special more. Neeb vs Showtime went 5 games, but it was less exciting and tended to be decided by one fight
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showtime winning would be amazing ... gl german bros
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On January 28 2018 22:37 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 22:37 Topin wrote: this is so early... zZz i need to sleep. how were the two semis? Yeah these finals are happening quite early
For NA sure. Not prime time EU, but since it's still mid day on a sunday it wouldn't make a huge difference, especially since prime time is covered by the Eleague major finals
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the real question is, will the new champion beat the final boss, the Champagne bottle?
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On January 28 2018 22:45 MrWayne wrote: the real question is, will the new champion beat the final boss, the Champagne bottle?
I want Serral to win, but I think ShowTime has better odds vs the bottle 
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On January 28 2018 22:45 MrWayne wrote: the real question is, will the new champion beat the final boss, the Champagne bottle?
Nevah!
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This Elazer interview is great XD "Me I'd all-in five games in a row".
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Elazer's goal is to completely close the gap?
Well, can't say the man isn't ambitious.
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On January 28 2018 22:49 Alchemik wrote: Elazer is fun But not really good in the mid and late game.
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On January 28 2018 22:49 pvsnp wrote: Elazer's goal is to completely close the gap?
Well, can't say the man isn't ambitious. Apollo only needs a bit more time to completely kill off the rest of the korean scene
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On January 28 2018 22:49 pvsnp wrote: Elazer's goal is to completely close the gap?
Well, can't say the man isn't ambitious. GSL final 2022: Elazer 4-3 DRGling
"we've finally done it"
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Well I just woke up to find out the two people I thought would be in the finals, not in the finals. Any good games to watch from those earlier?
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On January 28 2018 22:55 GeminiSC wrote: Well I just woke up to find out the two people I thought would be in the finals, not in the finals. Any good games to watch from those earlier? Both semifinals had some excellent games
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having a seed in january for a tournament in november... idk kev
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Serral vs Special game 3 was awesome, not sure about Neeb vs Showtime since i only saw the last two games
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This is Serral's tournament. Let's fucking go.
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On January 28 2018 22:57 Topin wrote: having a seed in january for a tournament in november... idk kev
doesn't matter. winner would have enough points either way
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If Serral wins here, a day before the hydra nerf, will Mizenhauer call him a patchzerg too?
I'd guess Serral 4-2 Showtime
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Hyped for Finals! Come on Schauzeit! You can do it!
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#1 Aligulac will be a tough beast for Showtime.
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I swear, every time I tune into a foreign tourney it's either ZvP or ZvZ. ResidentSleeper
User was warned for this post
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On January 28 2018 22:59 pvsnp wrote: If Serral wins here, a day before the hydra nerf, will Mizenhauer call him a patchzerg too?
I'd guess Serral 4-2 Showtime Serral is too much of a choker
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On January 28 2018 22:59 pvsnp wrote: If Serral wins here, a day before the hydra nerf, will Mizenhauer call him a patchzerg too?
I'd guess Serral 4-2 Showtime
for sure he will and every terran champ after the patch will be a patchterran like mvp
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i just rememberes Thorzain running down the hall at NASL ... the feels
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no terran in the finals. #balanced
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we need trash talk before the match come on!
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On January 28 2018 23:03 Charoisaur wrote: no terran in the finals. #balanced Terran has no right to be in the finals, 3 races and only 2 can do it! It's fine since there was one in the quarters, balanced indeed!
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every finals should be a 1v1v1 to blance things out
Edit: best of 7 all 7 maps played on Catallena
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On January 28 2018 23:06 MrWayne wrote: every finals should be a 1v1v1 to blance things out Nice racism against random
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On January 28 2018 23:07 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 23:06 MrWayne wrote: every finals should be a 1v1v1 to blance things out Nice racism against random Random isn't a real race
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On January 28 2018 23:04 Topin wrote: we need trash talk before the match come on! Both would lose 0-4 to cure
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On January 28 2018 23:07 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 23:06 MrWayne wrote: every finals should be a 1v1v1 to blance things out Nice racism against random Finals should be a four player group with each race tbh.
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On January 28 2018 23:07 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 23:06 MrWayne wrote: every finals should be a 1v1v1 to blance things out Nice racism against random
avilo told me random will be removed soon.
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On January 28 2018 23:05 HolydaKing wrote:Terran has no right to be in the finals, 3 races and only 2 can do it! No, the fact that there's no terran in the finals is conclusive proof that the race is too weak. There are 3 races, 2 of them are in the finals and the other one is not. Therefore terran is the weakest.
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Well, at least it isn't ZvZ
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I think it's interesting how this tournament didn't have one particular player just wash over his opponents, so I guess that's neat.
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On January 28 2018 23:11 intotheheart wrote: I think it's interesting how this tournament didn't have one particular player just wash over his opponents, so I guess that's neat. Serral did exctly that The king is dead long live the king
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On January 28 2018 23:11 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 23:11 intotheheart wrote: I think it's interesting how this tournament didn't have one particular player just wash over his opponents, so I guess that's neat. Serral did exctly that Think I saw one of his 3-0s as a 3-2 for some reason.
Year of Serral, confirmed.
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On January 28 2018 23:11 intotheheart wrote: I think it's interesting how this tournament didn't have one particular player just wash over his opponents, so I guess that's neat.
Serral is 9-1 pre-finals.
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Interesting how archon drops have come back into the meta. And skytoss never left. After all of 2017 PvZ has just run in a giant circle.
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lol rekt, nice serral
carriers incoming!
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long live socialist EU, what a healthcare, what a country
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give me that juicy corruptor ability
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there it is
what a relief :"D
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That nexus was only a youngling
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Serral has arrived! He's taken the mantle of 'sick engagements from a european zerg' from 2016 Nerchio and 2017 Elazer.
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No mothership and only 3 carriers, Showtime barely had a goldleaf armada
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jesus ive never seena zerg manhandle multiple late game protoss deathballs that badly.
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Serral, is very good
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Man, Serral reminds me so much of Stephano. I'd really like to see him take a shot at Korea.
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Wow. I really thought letting ShowTime get so close to max there was a mistake... and then... and then wow. GG Serral!
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On January 28 2018 23:25 kottbullar wrote: jesus ive never seena zerg manhandle multiple late game protoss deathballs that badly. It's quite possible when the late game protoss deathball is mostly zealots.
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On January 28 2018 23:25 kottbullar wrote: jesus ive never seena zerg manhandle multiple late game protoss deathballs that badly. Showtime had 3 carriers and no mothership, that Protoss deathball was missing the "death" part
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wow serral might actually win something now D:
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On January 28 2018 23:28 Waxangel wrote: has narchio been posting Nope.
Wait until Serral loses a game
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On January 28 2018 23:29 Shellshock wrote: wow serral might actually win something now D:
Will you post the hockey gif if he wins?
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On January 28 2018 23:31 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 23:29 Shellshock wrote: wow serral might actually win something now D: Will you post the hockey gif if he wins? no i will uninstall sc2
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On January 28 2018 23:31 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 23:31 Heartland wrote:On January 28 2018 23:29 Shellshock wrote: wow serral might actually win something now D: Will you post the hockey gif if he wins? no i will uninstall sc2
As if you have it installed
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On January 28 2018 23:33 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 23:31 Shellshock wrote:On January 28 2018 23:31 Heartland wrote:On January 28 2018 23:29 Shellshock wrote: wow serral might actually win something now D: Will you post the hockey gif if he wins? no i will uninstall sc2 As if you have it installed co op bois
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Those tracks really look good.
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Where the hell is Serral's army? He's maxed out but it's not a lot of units fighting now
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On January 28 2018 23:37 Heartland wrote: Where the hell is Serral's army? He's maxed out but it's not a lot of units fighting now 22 hydra in eggs
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This is pretty excellent defense by Showtime. But he might get overwhelmed anyway.
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they are underrating how far ahead Serral's econ is
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This vertical expansion path seems hard to defend for showtime
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Serral is just everywhere
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This is a very nice game.
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Serral multitask is insane
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On January 28 2018 23:40 Shellshock wrote: definitely 4-0 probably but it's never too late to choke
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Horrible trade for Protoss now.
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Serral is quite simply too strong. Best foreigner atm.
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showtime is not good enough
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Jesus this map is a nightmare for Protoss to defend vs Zerg.
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I dont even know how you are supposed to win vs a zerg that play like that
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On January 28 2018 23:40 Penev wrote:probably but it's never too late to choke
you can't choke against another foreigner, only against Koreans
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best player in the world too good
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This new ZvP meta from EU is really strong, fast-burrow lurker + mass drop.
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well that was a great game
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is it time to pull out the cheese
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On January 28 2018 23:42 Luolis wrote: SERRAL IS A GOD! No elfi is
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What the f*** Serral y so gud?
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I miss WoL and HOTS when the games lasted longer
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Serral looking quite strong. Could very well be a 4-0 here. I'd guess that Showtime starts allining from here, he doesn't have the mechanics to match Serral.
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On January 28 2018 23:43 Ciaus_Dronu wrote: What the f*** Serral y so gud?
EU, zerg, Finnish
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On January 28 2018 23:43 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:No elfi is Serral is a god. Elfi is THE god
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On January 28 2018 23:43 Noonius wrote: I miss WoL and HOTS when the games lasted longer Soulkey vs Reality best game ever
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showtime seems outclassed so far, damn serral is good. probably the best zerg on the planet?
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On January 28 2018 23:42 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 23:40 Penev wrote:On January 28 2018 23:40 Shellshock wrote: definitely 4-0 probably but it's never too late to choke you can't choke against another foreigner, only against Koreans you underestimate Serral
2018 Serral seems different tho
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It's gunna happen boys. Serral too experienced to choke anymore. This won't be his only win in 2018 ^^
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Serral is riding this victory just on being good at ZvZ, ZvT and ZvP. He's just lucky he didn't get any of his weaker matchups
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On January 28 2018 23:43 Noonius wrote: I miss WoL and HOTS when the games lasted longer That game was absolutely insane, and really wasn't over fast at all. The only difference between that and a WoL game is that first few minutes weren't a 6 minute long discussion about the weather in Leipzig.
EDIT: I may have just missed some sarcasm
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On January 28 2018 23:44 Poopfeast 024 wrote:showtime seems outclassed so far, damn serral is good. probably the best zerg on the planet?  definitely
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On January 28 2018 23:44 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 23:43 Noonius wrote: I miss WoL and HOTS when the games lasted longer Soulkey vs Reality best game ever
Along with Petraeus vs Stephano.
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On January 28 2018 23:42 Shellshock wrote: best player in the world too good You're not allowed to board this hype train
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Too bad Neeb flubbed against Showtime. Would've wanted to see how he would've dealt with Serral.
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On January 28 2018 23:44 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Serral is riding this victory just on being good at ZvZ, ZvT and ZvP. He's just lucky he didn't get any of his weaker matchups yes, it is disgusting
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On January 28 2018 23:44 Koivusto wrote: It's gunna happen boys. Serral too experienced to choke anymore. This won't be his only win in 2018 ^^
This. Almost wins WCS when he's nervous; this year he's not nervous and he's a literal monster
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On January 28 2018 23:44 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 23:43 Noonius wrote: I miss WoL and HOTS when the games lasted longer Soulkey vs Reality best game ever
You forget firegod vs mana
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ForGG vs FCK was the pinnacle of Starcraft.
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Serral's moves are amazing. He just has this game figured out better at the moment it seems. This should be his trophy today.
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Serral's hype outweighed his results for a very long time, but it seems like he might be finally validating the hype after all.
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On January 28 2018 23:45 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 23:44 Charoisaur wrote:On January 28 2018 23:43 Noonius wrote: I miss WoL and HOTS when the games lasted longer Soulkey vs Reality best game ever You forget firegod vs mana firegod...that's a name I haven't heard for a while...
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On January 28 2018 23:43 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:No elfi is elfi is less than trash compared to serral
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On January 28 2018 23:44 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 23:43 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On January 28 2018 23:42 Luolis wrote: SERRAL IS A GOD! No elfi is Serral is a god. Elfi is THE god Serral can be the Jesus but elfi is The God. Does Serral have his own bible?
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On January 28 2018 23:45 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 23:44 Charoisaur wrote:On January 28 2018 23:43 Noonius wrote: I miss WoL and HOTS when the games lasted longer Soulkey vs Reality best game ever You forget firegod vs mana A poor man's Zhugeliang vs Lillekanin
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Hope this goes to the ace match :o
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On January 28 2018 23:49 Lorning wrote: Hope this goes to the ace match :o I dont
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On January 28 2018 23:49 Lorning wrote: Hope this goes to the ace match :o dont get your hopes up
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On January 28 2018 23:47 pvsnp wrote: Serral's hype outweighed his results for a very long time, but it seems like he might be finally validating the hype after all. Most of it probably coming from other pros.
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On January 28 2018 23:45 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 23:44 Charoisaur wrote:On January 28 2018 23:43 Noonius wrote: I miss WoL and HOTS when the games lasted longer Soulkey vs Reality best game ever Along with Petraeus vs Stephano.
are you trying to tell that there was something wrong with SH wars?
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On January 28 2018 23:44 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 23:43 Noonius wrote: I miss WoL and HOTS when the games lasted longer Soulkey vs Reality best game ever
Don't you mean Firecake vs Mana? 3 hour games are best games
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I accidentally hit "Show Chat" for a second and instantly regretted it.
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On January 28 2018 23:50 pvsnp wrote: I accidentally hit "Show Chat" for a second and instantly regretted it. But Totalbiscuit and Nathanias told me TL is the cesspool
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serral should have been #1 in the PR aligulac > TL writers
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On January 28 2018 23:49 Lorning wrote: Hope this goes to the ace match :o
why? I need to take a shower and watch The Mindhunter (discovered that show yesterday, AMAZING)
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after losing the first 2 games like that i think tobias should have allined this one
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On January 28 2018 23:50 Parrek wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 23:44 Charoisaur wrote:On January 28 2018 23:43 Noonius wrote: I miss WoL and HOTS when the games lasted longer Soulkey vs Reality best game ever Don't you mean Firecake vs Mana? 3 hour games are best games I prefer 4 hour games.
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On January 28 2018 23:51 Topin wrote: after losing the first 2 games like that i think tobias should have allined this one Yeah Tobias is crazy! (btw tobias is showtime, i can use his first name because we are tight like that. yeah i know top players but its whatever to me lol
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On January 28 2018 23:51 Topin wrote: after losing the first 2 games like that i think tobias should have allined this one
IDK, playing against your strengths can be dubious. This game is already off to a really decent start for ShowTime.
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On January 28 2018 23:51 Shellshock wrote: serral should have been #1 in the PR aligulac > TL writers I mean it's been known for a while that aligulac is more accurate.
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On January 28 2018 23:52 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 23:51 Topin wrote: after losing the first 2 games like that i think tobias should have allined this one Yeah Tobias is crazy! (btw tobias is showtime, i can use his first name because we are tight like that. yeah i know top players but its whatever to me lol you big shot
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On January 28 2018 23:51 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 23:50 pvsnp wrote: I accidentally hit "Show Chat" for a second and instantly regretted it. But Totalbiscuit and Nathanias told me TL is the cesspool Twitch chat is the open sewer of the Internet, and the Internet has chronic dysentery
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On January 28 2018 23:50 pvsnp wrote: I accidentally hit "Show Chat" for a second and instantly regretted it. avilo's meme aren't that bad
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On January 28 2018 23:52 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 23:51 Topin wrote: after losing the first 2 games like that i think tobias should have allined this one Yeah Tobias is crazy! (btw tobias is showtime, i can use his first name because we are tight like that. yeah i know top players but its whatever to me lol
name dropping is the worst, right up there with being a youtube celebrity
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This series makes storm look weak
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Too easy for our young God.
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On January 28 2018 23:53 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 23:51 Topin wrote: after losing the first 2 games like that i think tobias should have allined this one IDK, playing against your strengths can be dubious. This game is already off to a really decent start for ShowTime.
Nvm you were right.
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2018 and lifted banelings still don't splash on airunits smh
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On January 28 2018 23:50 pvsnp wrote: I accidentally hit "Show Chat" for a second and instantly regretted it.
twitch chat is wonderful
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FROM THE AIR!
ITS GETTING CLOSE!
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On January 28 2018 23:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: This series makes storm look weak
It's been pretty obvious that it needs to be buffed for a while now.
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serral just freeing up supply
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serral's creepspread could be better this game
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On January 28 2018 23:51 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 23:50 pvsnp wrote: I accidentally hit "Show Chat" for a second and instantly regretted it. But Totalbiscuit and Nathanias told me TL is the cesspool Just like Major (when he came to cry how the balance team should be fired with a bad terran patch, and then getting called a crying patchterran.)
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Showtime's harass has been lacking throughout this series, Serral's eco is just crazy
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On January 28 2018 23:57 Ej_ wrote: ULTRAS INTO LOSE Making them against protoss is just asking for it tbh.
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Serral needs a Jaedong muta switch
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#RespectVoidrays in 2018... lol
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Why did this start so early?
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On January 28 2018 23:58 pvsnp wrote: Showtime's harass has been lacking throughout this series, Serral's eco is just crazy He's only harrassing when he's not close to dying.
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Serral's on 7 bases, get a prism ffs. A few chargelots would do wonders
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Wolf was right
They should be respected
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Showtime is playing the final campaign mission
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On January 29 2018 00:00 Lorning wrote: Wolf was right
They should be respected
Wolf was right about everything.
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That is a lot of creep spread.
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On January 29 2018 00:01 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 00:00 Lorning wrote: Wolf was right
They should be respected Wolf was right about everything. Does this mean we should all eat army stew
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Economics are beating Showtime here. Serral just denies the fifth all game long while keeping near unlimited resources for himself.
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Win or lose. Only defending for almost 20min is a humiliating way to play PvZ..
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lol fungal biled so many voids
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Not so easy for our young God.
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On January 29 2018 00:02 Yiome wrote: Win or lose. Only defending for almost 20min is a humiliating way to play PvZ.. Why?
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you know it's a good game when the map is almost mined out
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On January 29 2018 00:01 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 00:01 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2018 00:00 Lorning wrote: Wolf was right
They should be respected Wolf was right about everything. Does this mean we should all eat army stew
Sure.
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How does he not notice the carriers shooting so slowly . E; oh there we go
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21 minute Graviton, new meta
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Wait I just realized that Serral has no vipers.
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This game is also very fun
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On January 29 2018 00:04 Ansibled wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 00:02 Yiome wrote: Win or lose. Only defending for almost 20min is a humiliating way to play PvZ.. Why? Hmm maybe humiliating is not the best word here. Reminds me of Rain of the old HotS time a bit. But even more passive and just hanging in there with a thread
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no vipers for this long with all those spores does seem a little weird
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If I was a rich zerg lalalalalalalalalalalalalalala I'd have all the money in the world but still can't beat Protoss Ai-ai-ai-air
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so we gonna mine out a map in lotv? didnt know it was possible
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On January 29 2018 00:13 Shellshock wrote: so we gonna mine out a map in lotv? didnt know it was possible MaNa vs FireCake 2.0
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Needs more shield batteries.
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On January 29 2018 00:13 Shellshock wrote: so we gonna mine out a map in lotv? didnt know it was possible Removing maps like Abyssal Reef with 30 bases does help
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The Golden Armada vs The Swarm. Pretty much Artanis vs Kerrigan.
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I don't see how Serral could lose right now.
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remax on 400 cracklings and kill all his buildings
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that should break Showtime for the series
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Damn, that is some very impressive stuff from Seral
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Feels like that bank isnt even going down
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That was brutal for Showtime.
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Azhrak, Koivusto, Luolis, Keeemy, D-Light, TheBloodyDwarf
you will be remembered
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FeelsGoodMan. Just one more game!
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This is like watching 15k mmr vs 10k mmr, wow
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am I the only one tho think that simply a-moving and storming there would have been better for Showtime ?
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Well, at least ShoWTimE tried.
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Showtime is more broke than women's studies graduate looking for a job
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That big fight was insane! This might go 4-0 but it's some great StarCraft.
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these players arent even in the same tier
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Showtime just does no dmg to Serrals eco
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Maybe Serral will be 2018's Neeb. He's looking pretty clearly above Showtime here.
Though I do think Showtime's harass has really been lacking in this series, it doesn't matter who you are you can't let the Zerg eco go completely unchecked
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33,000 watching. Not bad for a ded gehm.
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It's been a very long while i've heard casters saying that Serral was rising alarmingly fast as a player. Finally he seems to have reached his final form.
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despite it being so one-sided, it's actually entertaining
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On January 29 2018 00:21 Kommander wrote: 33,000 watching. Not bad for a ded gehm. Well, it's hardly great either.
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don't know what protoss is supposed to do there. Zerg lategame is so strong
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On January 29 2018 00:18 The_Red_Viper wrote: This is like watching 15k mmr vs 10k mmr, wow Or like a 4000 aligulac rating vs 3000 aligulac rating, holy moly.
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After that game I think ShowTime is not happy. When you have half the map and a 150 supply upgraded protoss army you can't really do more to hedge your bets. Serral not using vipers is also weird to me, but... well... he has the MMR
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On January 29 2018 00:22 Charoisaur wrote: don't know what protoss is supposed to do there. Zerg lategame is so strong Don't let them get there
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On January 29 2018 00:21 Noonius wrote: despite it being so one-sided, it's actually entertaining I do enjoy seeing Serral just destroying competition
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On January 29 2018 00:22 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 00:18 The_Red_Viper wrote: This is like watching 15k mmr vs 10k mmr, wow Or like a 4000 aligulac rating vs 3000 aligulac rating, holy moly. Wait... aligulac ratings haven't been that inflated yet, have they?
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On January 29 2018 00:22 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 00:22 D-light wrote:On January 29 2018 00:18 The_Red_Viper wrote: This is like watching 15k mmr vs 10k mmr, wow Or like a 4000 aligulac rating vs 3000 aligulac rating, holy moly. Wait... aligulac ratings haven't been that inflated yet, have they? No I just went a bit hype on it. (3k vs 2.5k would have been too close to reality)
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That push was just beautifully executed by Serral against a full golden armada protoss A more aggressive protoss like Neeb would probably fair better here.
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Neeb would've put up a better fight. Showtime can only defend
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On January 29 2018 00:23 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 00:22 The_Templar wrote:On January 29 2018 00:22 D-light wrote:On January 29 2018 00:18 The_Red_Viper wrote: This is like watching 15k mmr vs 10k mmr, wow Or like a 4000 aligulac rating vs 3000 aligulac rating, holy moly. Wait... aligulac ratings haven't been that inflated yet, have they? No I just went a bit hype on it. (3k vs 2.5k would have been too close to reality) Wtf, I just realized Serral has the highest aligulac rating.
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On January 29 2018 00:25 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 00:23 D-light wrote:On January 29 2018 00:22 The_Templar wrote:On January 29 2018 00:22 D-light wrote:On January 29 2018 00:18 The_Red_Viper wrote: This is like watching 15k mmr vs 10k mmr, wow Or like a 4000 aligulac rating vs 3000 aligulac rating, holy moly. Wait... aligulac ratings haven't been that inflated yet, have they? No I just went a bit hype on it. (3k vs 2.5k would have been too close to reality) Wtf, I just realized Serral has the highest aligulac rating. It's been a meme for ages
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On January 29 2018 00:25 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 00:23 D-light wrote:On January 29 2018 00:22 The_Templar wrote:On January 29 2018 00:22 D-light wrote:On January 29 2018 00:18 The_Red_Viper wrote: This is like watching 15k mmr vs 10k mmr, wow Or like a 4000 aligulac rating vs 3000 aligulac rating, holy moly. Wait... aligulac ratings haven't been that inflated yet, have they? No I just went a bit hype on it. (3k vs 2.5k would have been too close to reality) Wtf, I just realized Serral has the highest aligulac rating. No idea how you've missed the aligulac hype on this kid.
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On January 29 2018 00:25 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 00:23 D-light wrote:On January 29 2018 00:22 The_Templar wrote:On January 29 2018 00:22 D-light wrote:On January 29 2018 00:18 The_Red_Viper wrote: This is like watching 15k mmr vs 10k mmr, wow Or like a 4000 aligulac rating vs 3000 aligulac rating, holy moly. Wait... aligulac ratings haven't been that inflated yet, have they? No I just went a bit hype on it. (3k vs 2.5k would have been too close to reality) Wtf, I just realized Serral has the highest aligulac rating. beating up foreigners does that for you
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On January 29 2018 00:24 Charoisaur wrote: Neeb would've put up a better fight. Showtime can only defend
Yeah, I feel like Neeb understands PvZ much better than any other Protoss in the world right now. Too bad he had to run into a PvP.
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On January 29 2018 00:26 Kommander wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 00:24 Charoisaur wrote: Neeb would've put up a better fight. Showtime can only defend Yeah, I feel like Neeb understands PvZ much better than any other Protoss in the world right now. Too bad he had to run into a PvP. In the world.
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On January 29 2018 00:26 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 00:25 The_Templar wrote:On January 29 2018 00:23 D-light wrote:On January 29 2018 00:22 The_Templar wrote:On January 29 2018 00:22 D-light wrote:On January 29 2018 00:18 The_Red_Viper wrote: This is like watching 15k mmr vs 10k mmr, wow Or like a 4000 aligulac rating vs 3000 aligulac rating, holy moly. Wait... aligulac ratings haven't been that inflated yet, have they? No I just went a bit hype on it. (3k vs 2.5k would have been too close to reality) Wtf, I just realized Serral has the highest aligulac rating. No idea how you've missed the aligulac hype on this kid. I haven't really been around that much in the last year. >.>
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On January 29 2018 00:26 Kommander wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 00:24 Charoisaur wrote: Neeb would've put up a better fight. Showtime can only defend Yeah, I feel like Neeb understands PvZ much better than any other Protoss in the world right now. Too bad he had to run into a PvP. let's not go too far
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On January 29 2018 00:25 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 00:23 D-light wrote:On January 29 2018 00:22 The_Templar wrote:On January 29 2018 00:22 D-light wrote:On January 29 2018 00:18 The_Red_Viper wrote: This is like watching 15k mmr vs 10k mmr, wow Or like a 4000 aligulac rating vs 3000 aligulac rating, holy moly. Wait... aligulac ratings haven't been that inflated yet, have they? No I just went a bit hype on it. (3k vs 2.5k would have been too close to reality) Wtf, I just realized Serral has the highest aligulac rating. highest ever
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On January 29 2018 00:27 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 00:26 D-light wrote:On January 29 2018 00:25 The_Templar wrote:On January 29 2018 00:23 D-light wrote:On January 29 2018 00:22 The_Templar wrote:On January 29 2018 00:22 D-light wrote:On January 29 2018 00:18 The_Red_Viper wrote: This is like watching 15k mmr vs 10k mmr, wow Or like a 4000 aligulac rating vs 3000 aligulac rating, holy moly. Wait... aligulac ratings haven't been that inflated yet, have they? No I just went a bit hype on it. (3k vs 2.5k would have been too close to reality) Wtf, I just realized Serral has the highest aligulac rating. No idea how you've missed the aligulac hype on this kid. I haven't really been around that much in the last year. >.> You've missed a lot of memes.
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On January 29 2018 00:27 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 00:26 Kommander wrote:On January 29 2018 00:24 Charoisaur wrote: Neeb would've put up a better fight. Showtime can only defend Yeah, I feel like Neeb understands PvZ much better than any other Protoss in the world right now. Too bad he had to run into a PvP. let's not go too far Why do so many people seem to forget Korea exists at times like this? Yeah these games are good and yeah the hype is strong but seriously, this is a large lake, not the Pacific Ocean.
There were complaints about TvZ being impossible after Special lost, yknow the guy that failed to qualify for GSL.
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On January 29 2018 00:22 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 00:18 The_Red_Viper wrote: This is like watching 15k mmr vs 10k mmr, wow Or like a 4000 aligulac rating vs 3000 aligulac rating, holy moly.
or like watching EU zerg playing against EU protoss
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wow showtime is actually going to win a game
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Look's like it's... wait for it...showtime!
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Nuu, Serral you could have made this flawless. Why you do dis?
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he missclicked the ovie drop i think
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On January 29 2018 00:33 Ansibled wrote: LLLWWWW That's Bogus
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Serral losing on purpose as ShoWTimE plays home
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On January 29 2018 00:32 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:Nuu, Serral you could have made this flawless. Why you do dis?  He said that he's allowed himself to lose one game a series so he goes for something wacky like this.
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On January 29 2018 00:34 Lorning wrote: Time for the comeback LLLWWWL
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ShowTime should still win this game, but he's trying really hard not to :|
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Showtime should have never lost that lmao
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Showtime doing his best to throw this game
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why is this game even in contention
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if showtime loose this i'm gonna loose myself
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It's been a long time since I saw storm drops
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"Kind sir, please accept this gift win"
"No sir, I insist, this game is yours!"
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what happened in the early game? I missed it
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After such a volatile early game somehow this is pretty even now.
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On January 29 2018 00:38 Heartland wrote: what happened in the early game? I missed it Early ling flood and drops didn't do damage, but then follow-up by showtime didn't either.
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On January 29 2018 00:38 Heartland wrote: what happened in the early game? I missed it Completely deflected ling drop 20 worker difference. ShowTime tries to counter and it goes badly. Game becomes a game.
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On January 29 2018 00:38 Heartland wrote: what happened in the early game? I missed it Serral went for double dropperlords, Showtime held with 2 probes dead, but threw it by attacking into the followup,
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On January 29 2018 00:38 Heartland wrote: what happened in the early game? I missed it Serrals cheese got denied and then ShowTime did something stupid
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On January 29 2018 00:38 Heartland wrote: what happened in the early game? I missed it
Showtime successfully defended Dropperlord ling rush. Then tried to counterattack with chargelot/archon, failed miserably. Then Serral counterattacked with mass lings, sniped the third nexus but that's pretty much it.
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Is there any chance for Showtime? He's failed in late game several times in a row
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Oooh, that body block with the changelings
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Wow, Serral really wants Showtime to win, doesn't he? What a kind man.
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Serral exposed. should lose 1000 aligulac points for this game imo
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On January 29 2018 00:40 Heartland wrote: Is there any chance for Showtime? He's failed in late game several times in a row He will win the game but not the series
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Looking forward to a flood of gifs
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RIP 4-0 dream but it's all good.
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a series
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Well that was a terrible game.
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Showtime: "Tell me, do you bleed?"
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1 win for the crowd, now end this Serral
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Serral will go back to macro next game, Showtime should just allin
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Okay Serral, you let him smile a bit. Pls. End this.
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On January 29 2018 00:42 Shellshock wrote: serral on tilt Not sure if showtime is un-tilt enough to take advantage.
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Showtime pulling a Cilic ;>
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Based god Showtime showing mercy to all Finns who will be banned if Serral wins.
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Serral's dropped one map to every race, perfect balance.
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On January 29 2018 00:44 Heartland wrote: Based god Showtime showing mercy to all Finns who will be banned if Serral wins. I mean it'll happen if serral wins or loses
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i mean if showtime wins this game as well, serral surely gets nervous
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death by hockey gif or drunk santa
choose your destructor
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Meme him all the way out of Germany Serral #YearofSerral2018
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I slept in.
Even when Serral loses it looks good
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Oracle>Phoenix>Oracle? Isn't that a weird order.
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On January 29 2018 00:48 Heartland wrote: Oracle>Phoenix>Oracle? Isn't that a weird order. Nah, it's pretty standard.
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On January 29 2018 00:48 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 00:48 Heartland wrote: Oracle>Phoenix>Oracle? Isn't that a weird order. Nah, it's pretty standard.
I thought it was Oracle-Oracle-Phoenix
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storm drop when theres no drones
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It was very nice of him to sit in those storms
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On January 29 2018 00:51 Heartland wrote: It was very nice of him to sit in those storms
Serral is a considerate god
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Showtime making a series out of this, but Serral should really just go back to macro
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That was a game changing stasis
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Serral my man, please no chokerino.
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Serral stahp pls if you throw I cry :'(
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I really like Serral's multitasking and splitting of his army
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I win a bunch of macro games. better spam all ins
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On January 29 2018 00:52 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: That was a game changing stasis
Truly. I love stasis ward
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drunk santa flood is becoming more probable
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Is Serral just a Finnish soO? Let's hope not.
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someone get Wolf, we need an expert
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Why is Serral allining when his macro is 10x better
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Serral is gonna be soOrral if he loses this series....
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On January 29 2018 00:54 Luolis wrote: Why is Serral allining when his macro is 10x better if it aint broke dont fix it go back to the way he was playing before smh
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Nah guys, Serral is going to win. I don't think he's able to lose 4 in a row..
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now serral wants to macro, while showtime gonna all in him
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Now that Serral has to go back to stable macro, is ShoWTimE able to cheese ?
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Why allin when you know your macro play is unbeatable?
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All it took for showtime to improve to 10k mmr level was three games, german efficiency
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I want my Abiogenesis game 7.
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My god, why u fu*king all in when you have him in a macro game any day. These games hurt deep in my soul.
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On January 29 2018 00:54 Luolis wrote: Why is Serral allining when his macro is 10x better no fun if you know that you can only win in 30+min games.
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On January 29 2018 00:55 HolydaKing wrote: Nah guys, Serral is going to win. I don't think he's able to lose 4 in a row.. The GOAT lost 4 in a row once so that can happen to everyone
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Just macro for the win Serral, I prefer the gifs
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On January 29 2018 00:56 Durnuu wrote: I want my Abiogenesis game 7. Neon Abiogenesis Evangelion. The question is: who's Asuka, and who's Shinji?
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This final sure is entertaining. But come on Serral just finnish it already!
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On January 29 2018 00:56 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 00:55 HolydaKing wrote: Nah guys, Serral is going to win. I don't think he's able to lose 4 in a row.. The GOAT lost 4 in a row once so that can happen to everyone I'm sorry but the true GOAT lost only 3 in a row then had the 50k MMR play by proxy raxing.
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Inno vs Soulkey and Life vs Maru are the only two Bo7 reverse-sweeps so far, right?
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On January 29 2018 00:57 pvsnp wrote: Inno vs Soulkey and Life vs Maru are the only two Bo7 reverse-sweeps so far, right? Life vs DRG Life vs Maru wasn't a reverse sweep
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On January 29 2018 00:57 pvsnp wrote: Inno vs Soulkey and Life vs Maru are the only two Bo7 reverse-sweeps so far, right? Life vs Maru was WLLLWWW
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On January 29 2018 00:58 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 00:57 pvsnp wrote: Inno vs Soulkey and Life vs Maru are the only two Bo7 reverse-sweeps so far, right? Life vs DRG Life vs Maru wasn't a reverse sweep Ouch, I think I remember that Life vs DRG.
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On January 29 2018 00:59 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 00:58 Durnuu wrote:On January 29 2018 00:57 pvsnp wrote: Inno vs Soulkey and Life vs Maru are the only two Bo7 reverse-sweeps so far, right? Life vs DRG Life vs Maru wasn't a reverse sweep Ouch, I think I remember that Life vs DRG. Yeah, it was glorious.
Love DRG too though. Still glorious.
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On January 29 2018 00:58 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 00:57 pvsnp wrote: Inno vs Soulkey and Life vs Maru are the only two Bo7 reverse-sweeps so far, right? Life vs DRG Life vs Maru wasn't a reverse sweep Life probably threw the first 3 games though
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On January 29 2018 01:00 Keeemy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 00:59 HolydaKing wrote:On January 29 2018 00:58 Durnuu wrote:On January 29 2018 00:57 pvsnp wrote: Inno vs Soulkey and Life vs Maru are the only two Bo7 reverse-sweeps so far, right? Life vs DRG Life vs Maru wasn't a reverse sweep Ouch, I think I remember that Life vs DRG. Yeah, it was glorious. Love DRG too though. Still glorious.
when did he retire?
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On January 29 2018 01:01 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 01:00 Keeemy wrote:On January 29 2018 00:59 HolydaKing wrote:On January 29 2018 00:58 Durnuu wrote:On January 29 2018 00:57 pvsnp wrote: Inno vs Soulkey and Life vs Maru are the only two Bo7 reverse-sweeps so far, right? Life vs DRG Life vs Maru wasn't a reverse sweep Ouch, I think I remember that Life vs DRG. Yeah, it was glorious. Love DRG too though. Still glorious. when did he retire? a while ago. no one noticed because he fell off so hard after he was broken for failing to win GSTL and GSL in Busan
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On January 29 2018 01:01 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 01:00 Keeemy wrote:On January 29 2018 00:59 HolydaKing wrote:On January 29 2018 00:58 Durnuu wrote:On January 29 2018 00:57 pvsnp wrote: Inno vs Soulkey and Life vs Maru are the only two Bo7 reverse-sweeps so far, right? Life vs DRG Life vs Maru wasn't a reverse sweep Ouch, I think I remember that Life vs DRG. Yeah, it was glorious. Love DRG too though. Still glorious. when did he retire? I don't really follow the scene but I think he just kinda disappeared, instead of straight up retiring.
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On January 29 2018 01:02 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 01:01 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2018 01:00 Keeemy wrote:On January 29 2018 00:59 HolydaKing wrote:On January 29 2018 00:58 Durnuu wrote:On January 29 2018 00:57 pvsnp wrote: Inno vs Soulkey and Life vs Maru are the only two Bo7 reverse-sweeps so far, right? Life vs DRG Life vs Maru wasn't a reverse sweep Ouch, I think I remember that Life vs DRG. Yeah, it was glorious. Love DRG too though. Still glorious. when did he retire? a while ago. no one noticed because he fell off so hard after he was broken for failing to win GSTL and GSL in Busan GSL in Busan killed him.
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Where the hell did those archons go to?
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By the way guys, this is the last game. Prepare the gifs.
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Oh good, Serral only threw a little bit.
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we need photon overcharge back. ruined this game by getting rid of the msc
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This is so bad for showtime... But Archon got stuck outside his base is still hilarious to watch
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At least I can finally start learning for my exams if Serral wins this now
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Aligulac called it again! :D
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Maybe he'll die before Storm now
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lurkers are so unzergy. bad for the game
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Can Showtime get a fourth though?
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Serral is so close. Comon finnish him!
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Showtime needs that third probe on the gas in the natu.
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Looking at the supplies...Showtime is just dead?
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Or Serral can just win, that works too
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So proud of Serral! Torille pojat!
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oh Weavel
Azhrak, Koivusto, Luolis, Keeemy, D-Light, TheBloodyDwarf, Weavel
you will be remembered
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FINLAND!!!!
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Congrats! :D
F for Luolis.
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SERRAL!!! Going back to macro and he takes the series! GG WP!
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On January 29 2018 01:09 Keeemy wrote:![[image loading]](https://gifs.nwps.fi/mm2015/jajaja.gif) So proud of Serral! Torille pojat!
Beautiful
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GOD DAMN HE DESERVED IT SO MUCH! GG SERRAL!
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Canada8988 Posts
Druuuuuuunkkkk Saaaaantaaaaaaa
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Man Serral is good, congrats!
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ok that trophy lift up looking cringe af
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Press F to pay respect to future fallen finnish TL users
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Awesome finals - well played King of the north!
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Hahaha this gif spam is great
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Finns don't show emotions you say
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![[image loading]](http://www.hotel-r.net/im/hotel/es/serral-19.jpg) CHAMPION OF THE WORLD
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Serral looks so pleased to have won. Wow.
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Azhrak, Koivusto, Luolis, Keeemy, D-Light, TheBloodyDwarf, Weavel
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PERKELEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Emotions are not necessary to win it seems
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Inno and Maru are taking notes here on interview technique.
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"lets win some more"
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It's all good boys
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And finally ....
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Serral the foreigner machine. Zero emotion.
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Taeja's champagne legacy will never die roflmao
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Awkward champagne popping is awkward
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lool, that was one of the best champagne openings so far, it was all over him lmao
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On January 29 2018 01:12 Penev wrote: Azhrak, Koivusto, Luolis, Keeemy, D-Light, TheBloodyDwarf, Weavel
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Serral aiming for Korean levels of interviews.
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the final boss won again!
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hahahahaha that was better than other time tbh
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Serral gonna go home and start laddering no doubt. Time to get up to 11k MMR.
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For Starcraft that champagne opening was pretty good.
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On January 29 2018 01:13 GreatTrash wrote:
ROFL
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I come here only for memes actually
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On January 29 2018 01:13 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 01:12 Penev wrote: Azhrak, Koivusto, Luolis, Keeemy, D-Light, TheBloodyDwarf, Weavel
F ![[image loading]](https://media.giphy.com/media/3oKIPuRYJ7vU60Hk5i/giphy.gif)
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Serral doesn't stream? I would really love to witness his road to 11k MMR.
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Not much at least? Never saw him in the feed.
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He won't have time anymore anyways. Hollywood life style awaits him after this.
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First Finnish premier tournament champion
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On January 29 2018 01:19 argonautdice wrote: First Finnish premier tournament champion Second* Naama was first
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On January 29 2018 01:19 argonautdice wrote: First Finnish premier tournament champion Second after Naama.
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On January 29 2018 01:19 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 01:19 argonautdice wrote: First Finnish premier tournament champion Second* Naama was first The legendary Mana vs Naama Casters Nightmare match, right?
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On January 29 2018 01:20 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 01:19 Luolis wrote:On January 29 2018 01:19 argonautdice wrote: First Finnish premier tournament champion Second* Naama was first The legendary Mana vs Naama Casters Nightmare match, right? Indeed
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On January 29 2018 01:19 argonautdice wrote: First Finnish premier tournament champion ...after Naama (over 7 years ago)
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Marvelous! Go Serral! Big Champ for real now!
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There is a finnish genocide going on in this thread now, RIP
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Damn, that is a lot of bans
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Azhrak, Koivusto, Luolis, Keeemy, D-Light, TheBloodyDwarf, Weavel
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also opisska for his comradery
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On January 29 2018 01:29 Penev wrote: Azhrak, Koivusto, Luolis, Keeemy, D-Light, TheBloodyDwarf, Weavel
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also opisska for his comradery
also rotta, greattrash you will be remembered
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should ban GumBa too. Preemptively just for good measure
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GumBa doesn't even post anymore.
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your Country52797 Posts
On January 29 2018 01:32 intotheheart wrote: GumBa doesn't even post anymore. I don't even know who GumBa is.
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On January 29 2018 01:32 intotheheart wrote: GumBa doesn't even post anymore. this is like minority report though. I can see it coming
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On January 29 2018 01:32 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 01:32 intotheheart wrote: GumBa doesn't even post anymore. I don't even know who GumBa is. Reported for flaming/bashing.
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gg wp, serral dominated both semis and finals.
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Hahaha that Finnish gif spam.
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On January 29 2018 01:29 Penev wrote: Azhrak, Koivusto, Luolis, Keeemy, D-Light, TheBloodyDwarf, Weavel
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also opisska for his comradery
rest in peace, brothers, 1995 never forget
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Why was half of the people here banned?
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On January 29 2018 03:24 Diabolique wrote: Why was half of the people here banned? martyr by Finnish gifs. they all knew it was coming and had been looking forward to it all weekend. it's not the first time and prob won't be the last
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On January 29 2018 03:38 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 03:24 Diabolique wrote: Why was half of the people here banned? martyr by Finnish gifs. they all knew it was coming and had been looking forward to it all weekend. it's not the first time and prob won't be the last
To be fair though, it is a nice celebration. 
...and the way Serral was going, I recon we'll see the same in June, July and September...
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What happened to this game? It used to be a beauty. The 'foreigner gap' never closed, they changed the type of game Starcraft is. It's no longer strategy or micro, it's about when to place a nexus and when to press attack.
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"Tehtiin mitä piti" 28.1.2018.
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On January 29 2018 03:42 YourFavoriteTerran wrote: What happened to this game? It used to be a beauty. The 'foreigner gap' never closed, they changed the type of game Starcraft is. It's no longer strategy or micro, it's about when to place a nexus and when to press attack. How is this tournament relevant to your statement? The only Korean in it has been foreigner-level for a long time now.
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Wait... Neeb is... Mortal? Oo;;
Congratulations Serral!
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My god the game was bad back then.
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Lol at the bans. Congratz Serral!
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On January 29 2018 03:38 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 03:24 Diabolique wrote: Why was half of the people here banned? martyr by Finnish gifs. they all knew it was coming and had been looking forward to it all weekend. it's not the first time and prob won't be the last So ... you mean ... they wanted to be banned? :-)
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Well, that certainly ends any possible whine about a storm nerf.
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On January 29 2018 05:02 LTCM wrote: Well, that certainly ends any possible whine about a storm nerf. You underestimate the whiners 
Also, a single Bo7 is laughably terrible evidence for any kind of imbalance, not that whiners care about logic.
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I don t know what s the more ridiculous, 10k in bank or creep covering the whole map. As the creep tumors wil never be nerf (as the 12 colllectors, it s look as a core feature for Blizzard, anyway....), it saves a lot of apm for the player zerg which cause a nervous prostration along this BO7, so approximatly with a perfect european player reaching the end game in each matchs, a game with a duration of 3 hours where your ennemy have the hang of the control of the map.
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On January 29 2018 05:02 LTCM wrote: Well, that certainly ends any possible whine about a storm nerf. Storm and deathballs are still pretty difficult to deal with as zerg, even if it's possible
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On January 29 2018 06:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 05:02 LTCM wrote: Well, that certainly ends any possible whine about a storm nerf. Storm and deathballs are still pretty difficult to deal with as zerg, even if it's possible
I don t think you can compare an amount of damage and the feature of the visibility which represent your awareness quality.
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How was the final? Did Showtime deny us a great bo7?
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Lorning
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Where were you when the Finnish purge on TL happened?
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On January 29 2018 06:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2018 05:02 LTCM wrote: Well, that certainly ends any possible whine about a storm nerf. Storm and deathballs are still pretty difficult to deal with as zerg, even if it's possible
I completely agree, storm can be hard to deal with.
I'll just point out that it's a spell, has to be researched, comes out of a gas heavy tier 3 unit, can be microed out of to limit damage, and templar are both extremely slow and fragile. It also has clear and well defined counter play.
It's hard to deal with because it SHOULD be hard to deal with.
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On January 29 2018 06:57 juicyjames wrote: Any recommended matches? Serral vs Special Game 3 was quite good. Showtime vs Serral Game 3 was pretty good too, but it started dragging on near the end.
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On January 29 2018 04:45 ByteCurious wrote:My god the game was bad back then.
That 8:51 minute medivac...
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gratz serral
incredible that leipzig is only his first premier win
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On January 29 2018 06:39 Lorning wrote: Where were you when the Finnish purge on TL happened?
Obviously watching Serral and ShoWTimE closing out the championship battle of WCS Leipzig. Live footage of the crucial moment:
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wtf are you insane!?
alright then: Azhrak, Luolis, Keeemy, D-Light, TheBloodyDwarf, Weavel, Opisska, rotta, GreatTrash aaand iNsaNe-
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Mods are racking up quite the body count
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Replays available somewhere?
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On January 29 2018 06:57 juicyjames wrote: Any recommended matches? I really enjoyed Showtime vs Serral game 2, lots of aggression from Serral.
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I thought the finals were very good overall.
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On January 30 2018 06:14 11cc wrote: Replays available somewhere?
Looking forward to these too!
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On January 30 2018 02:28 pvsnp wrote: Mods are racking up quite the body count i agree with banning meme pictures that are being spammed obnoxiously, but enforcing that rule any time someone posts an image that's meant to be a funny metaphor seems repressive and spartan
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On January 31 2018 03:18 Keeemy wrote: Ban is over? Oh shit boys. second round of gifs incoming?
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Oh great, the Fins are back, TL is ruined again
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On January 31 2018 03:19 GoloSC2 wrote:second round of gifs incoming? Damn you were so fast to reply that you captured my vulgar and disgusting language.
I think we're gonna save our gifs for the many tournaments Serral is going to win this year.
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On January 31 2018 06:12 rotta wrote: When's Ence flair? never cause EG is gonna make a return to sc2 and buy serral
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Late happy birthday to my account, hopefully everything goes well during puberty.
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On January 31 2018 22:53 iNsaNe- wrote:Late happy birthday to my account, hopefully everything goes well during puberty. Grats! Also happy 3rd anniversary of hockey gif proudness!
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