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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16022 Posts
September 10 2017 17:59 GMT
#521
On September 11 2017 02:58 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 02:56 Olli wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:55 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:51 usopsama wrote:
I do like the new balance changes a lot more than when David Kim was leading.

I still can't believe they are really going to get rid of the mother ship core. If David Kim was still leading, this change would be impossible.


Admittedly all their ideas to replace photon overcharge have been garbage and break PvP and PvZ in half, but at least they are trying.


Of course design patches are going to break matchups in half at first. That's why they're design patches. They can always fine tune them once they're established.


All these shield buffing abilities do absolutely nothing to prevent mineral lines to get cleaned out at a whim.

you mean shield recharge doesn't help vs liberator DPS?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
September 10 2017 17:59 GMT
#522
Michael Kim is a cool guy
Neosteel Enthusiast
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 10 2017 17:59 GMT
#523
On September 11 2017 02:58 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 02:56 Olli wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:55 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:51 usopsama wrote:
I do like the new balance changes a lot more than when David Kim was leading.

I still can't believe they are really going to get rid of the mother ship core. If David Kim was still leading, this change would be impossible.


Admittedly all their ideas to replace photon overcharge have been garbage and break PvP and PvZ in half, but at least they are trying.


Of course design patches are going to break matchups in half at first. That's why they're design patches. They can always fine tune them once they're established.


All these shield buffing abilities do absolutely nothing to prevent mineral lines to get cleaned out at a whim.

Except a reaper can't kill a probe now :D
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
September 10 2017 18:00 GMT
#524
Was that David Kims son?
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
September 10 2017 18:00 GMT
#525
On September 11 2017 02:58 Charoisaur wrote:
wearing a protoss shirt and wants Neeb to win. 2018 WCS will be only Protoss


Pretty much as its been for the last 5 Years then
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 10 2017 18:00 GMT
#526
On September 11 2017 02:59 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 02:57 Heartland wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:56 Olli wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:55 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:51 usopsama wrote:
I do like the new balance changes a lot more than when David Kim was leading.

I still can't believe they are really going to get rid of the mother ship core. If David Kim was still leading, this change would be impossible.


Admittedly all their ideas to replace photon overcharge have been garbage and break PvP and PvZ in half, but at least they are trying.


Of course design patches are going to break matchups in half at first. That's why they're design patches. They can always fine tune them once they're established.


How much are they paying you?!


Well this is a stance I've always had. Design patches should only be criticized for their design. Everything else will come later.

So we are allowed to criticize warpgates for bad design?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-10 18:01:30
September 10 2017 18:00 GMT
#527
On September 11 2017 02:58 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 02:56 Olli wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:55 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:51 usopsama wrote:
I do like the new balance changes a lot more than when David Kim was leading.

I still can't believe they are really going to get rid of the mother ship core. If David Kim was still leading, this change would be impossible.


Admittedly all their ideas to replace photon overcharge have been garbage and break PvP and PvZ in half, but at least they are trying.


Of course design patches are going to break matchups in half at first. That's why they're design patches. They can always fine tune them once they're established.


All these shield buffing abilities do absolutely nothing to prevent mineral lines to get cleaned out at a whim.


Stalkers shooting things out of the sky much faster should help with that. Also widow mines being visible off cooldown.

On September 11 2017 03:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 02:59 Olli wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:57 Heartland wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:56 Olli wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:55 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:51 usopsama wrote:
I do like the new balance changes a lot more than when David Kim was leading.

I still can't believe they are really going to get rid of the mother ship core. If David Kim was still leading, this change would be impossible.


Admittedly all their ideas to replace photon overcharge have been garbage and break PvP and PvZ in half, but at least they are trying.


Of course design patches are going to break matchups in half at first. That's why they're design patches. They can always fine tune them once they're established.


How much are they paying you?!


Well this is a stance I've always had. Design patches should only be criticized for their design. Everything else will come later.

So we are allowed to criticize warpgates for bad design?


Sure, people have always done that. I just don't agree.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
September 10 2017 18:01 GMT
#528
On September 11 2017 03:00 Topdoller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 02:58 Charoisaur wrote:
wearing a protoss shirt and wants Neeb to win. 2018 WCS will be only Protoss


Pretty much as its been for the last 5 Years then

Yep just look at that protoss filled ro8 here in Montreal
Neosteel Enthusiast
Gurbak
Profile Joined January 2017
France622 Posts
September 10 2017 18:01 GMT
#529
new song?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55562 Posts
September 10 2017 18:01 GMT
#530
Why isn't the music in every WCS break Treat - Roar? WCS clearly behind GSL forever until this is addressed. SGTK you should also get involved with WCS planning.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
September 10 2017 18:02 GMT
#531
If 2014 was the year of Zerg not bitching then 2017 was the year of Terran gaslighting
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 10 2017 18:02 GMT
#532
On September 11 2017 03:01 Elentos wrote:
Why isn't the music in every WCS break Treat - Roar? WCS clearly behind GSL forever until this is addressed. SGTK you should also get involved with WCS planning.

Maybe they don't want to have the VODs muted.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
raff100
Profile Joined April 2011
498 Posts
September 10 2017 18:02 GMT
#533
MOBA are really deforming players minds: there is no need to change units/abilities to shake the meta. Changes must be done when the design is in a bad state, as it is right now for Raven and PO,not because is refreshing to see new metà every year...
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 10 2017 18:02 GMT
#534
On September 11 2017 03:01 Elentos wrote:
Why isn't the music in every WCS break Treat - Roar? WCS clearly behind GSL forever until this is addressed. SGTK you should also get involved with WCS planning.

I actually liked it when GSL played Selena Gomez
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usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
September 10 2017 18:02 GMT
#535
On September 11 2017 02:55 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 02:51 usopsama wrote:
I do like the new balance changes a lot more than when David Kim was leading.

I still can't believe they are really going to get rid of the mother ship core. If David Kim was still leading, this change would be impossible.


Admittedly all their ideas to replace photon overcharge have been garbage and break PvP and PvZ in half, but at least they are trying.

I agree that some of the new changes are stupid, but I like the general new approach they are doing.

The old approach was: "we will put band-aids on everything" like buffing spores to directly nerf mutas, instead of nerfing mutas directly or something. I hated those band-aid solutions so much.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
September 10 2017 18:02 GMT
#536
On September 11 2017 03:00 Topdoller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 02:58 Charoisaur wrote:
wearing a protoss shirt and wants Neeb to win. 2018 WCS will be only Protoss


Pretty much as its been for the last 5 Years then


How many zergs are in the top 8/16 all year? An what was the finals of the last wcs? Neeb is the only protoss foreigner going to blizzcon also.
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
September 10 2017 18:02 GMT
#537
On September 11 2017 03:01 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 03:00 Topdoller wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:58 Charoisaur wrote:
wearing a protoss shirt and wants Neeb to win. 2018 WCS will be only Protoss


Pretty much as its been for the last 5 Years then

Yep just look at that protoss filled ro8 here in Montreal


Nope thats just crap players with crap mechanics not making it
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55562 Posts
September 10 2017 18:03 GMT
#538
On September 11 2017 03:00 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 02:58 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:56 Olli wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:55 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:51 usopsama wrote:
I do like the new balance changes a lot more than when David Kim was leading.

I still can't believe they are really going to get rid of the mother ship core. If David Kim was still leading, this change would be impossible.


Admittedly all their ideas to replace photon overcharge have been garbage and break PvP and PvZ in half, but at least they are trying.


Of course design patches are going to break matchups in half at first. That's why they're design patches. They can always fine tune them once they're established.


All these shield buffing abilities do absolutely nothing to prevent mineral lines to get cleaned out at a whim.


Stalkers shooting things out of the sky much faster should help with that. Also widow mines being visible off cooldown.

Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 03:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:59 Olli wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:57 Heartland wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:56 Olli wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:55 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:51 usopsama wrote:
I do like the new balance changes a lot more than when David Kim was leading.

I still can't believe they are really going to get rid of the mother ship core. If David Kim was still leading, this change would be impossible.


Admittedly all their ideas to replace photon overcharge have been garbage and break PvP and PvZ in half, but at least they are trying.


Of course design patches are going to break matchups in half at first. That's why they're design patches. They can always fine tune them once they're established.


How much are they paying you?!


Well this is a stance I've always had. Design patches should only be criticized for their design. Everything else will come later.

So we are allowed to criticize warpgates for bad design?


Sure, people have always done that. I just don't agree.

Widow mines becoming visible will definitely discourage people from leaving them in a base. Remains to be seen if it maybe even discourages from dropping them in the first place though.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 10 2017 18:04 GMT
#539
On September 11 2017 03:02 raff100 wrote:
MOBA are really deforming players minds: there is no need to change units/abilities to shake the meta. Changes must be done when the design is in a bad state, as it is right now for Raven and PO,not because is refreshing to see new metà every year...

There is no right or wrong concerning this
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
September 10 2017 18:04 GMT
#540
On September 11 2017 03:03 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 03:00 Olli wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:58 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:56 Olli wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:55 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:51 usopsama wrote:
I do like the new balance changes a lot more than when David Kim was leading.

I still can't believe they are really going to get rid of the mother ship core. If David Kim was still leading, this change would be impossible.


Admittedly all their ideas to replace photon overcharge have been garbage and break PvP and PvZ in half, but at least they are trying.


Of course design patches are going to break matchups in half at first. That's why they're design patches. They can always fine tune them once they're established.


All these shield buffing abilities do absolutely nothing to prevent mineral lines to get cleaned out at a whim.


Stalkers shooting things out of the sky much faster should help with that. Also widow mines being visible off cooldown.

On September 11 2017 03:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:59 Olli wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:57 Heartland wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:56 Olli wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:55 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 11 2017 02:51 usopsama wrote:
I do like the new balance changes a lot more than when David Kim was leading.

I still can't believe they are really going to get rid of the mother ship core. If David Kim was still leading, this change would be impossible.


Admittedly all their ideas to replace photon overcharge have been garbage and break PvP and PvZ in half, but at least they are trying.


Of course design patches are going to break matchups in half at first. That's why they're design patches. They can always fine tune them once they're established.


How much are they paying you?!


Well this is a stance I've always had. Design patches should only be criticized for their design. Everything else will come later.

So we are allowed to criticize warpgates for bad design?


Sure, people have always done that. I just don't agree.

Widow mines becoming visible will definitely discourage people from leaving them in a base. Remains to be seen if it maybe even discourages from dropping them in the first place though.


If people remove them from your mineral line (or never put them there in the first place) then clearing them out should be much easier!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
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