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Elentos
55594 Posts
On March 20 2017 21:51 Olli wrote: Because gateway only would still be terrible against bio, as it has always been. A stalker health buff doesn't change that. So adept/stalker/sentry/immortal wasn't the meta for the first half of 2016 and it was all in my mind | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
On March 20 2017 21:50 Penev wrote: Doesn't have to be a big nerf, just so they die a little earlier so they kill a few less drones I think the shade cooldown being increased would be better to weaken their harassment, without making them getting worse in straigh up fights. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
Still hate Warpprisms, but damn Stats is good. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
Because gateway only would still be terrible against bio, as it has always been. A stalker health buff doesn't change that. Except Gateway > Pure Bio. Terran needs splash damage to deal with monoAdept and mines/libs were just nerfed. Buffing Stalkers would basically just mean Protoss > Terran early as well as lategame. | ||
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Elentos
55594 Posts
On March 20 2017 21:53 Musicus wrote: Stats is so good btw. Still hate Warpprisms, but damn Stats is good. Imagine if he had had that warp prism during the defense of Solar's first push. Micro all the immortals! | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On March 20 2017 21:52 Elentos wrote: So adept/stalker/sentry/immortal wasn't the meta for the first half of 2016 and it was all in my mind You mean when the game was entirely different and you could get away with fast thirds into double forge and hit midgame timings to keep the terran down in supply? That's not a thing anymore. Not that it was bad. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
You mean when the game was entirely different and you could get away with fast thirds into double forge and hit midgame timings to keep the terran down in supply? That's not a thing anymore. Not that it was bad. Protoss was OP and that was bad. Anytime one race is OP is bad. | ||
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Aunvilgodess
954 Posts
But its too early for a balance patch anyway. | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany16103 Posts
On March 20 2017 21:53 pvsnp wrote: Except Gateway > Pure Bio. Terran needs splash damage to deal with monoAdept and mines/libs were just nerfed. Buffing Stalkers would basically just mean Protoss > Terran early as well as lategame. Yeah but something needs to be adressed so Zest doesn't lose to INnoVation anymore. | ||
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Elentos
55594 Posts
On March 20 2017 21:54 Olli wrote: You mean when the game was entirely different and you could get away with fast thirds into double forge and hit midgame timings to keep the terran down in supply? That's not a thing anymore. Not that it was bad. And how do you know a stalker buff doesn't change it back to that? | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
Yeah but something needs to be adressed so Zest doesn't lose to INnoVation anymore. I'd be happy if Zest could reliably beat the second-string Terrans, for starters. Losing to people like KeeN or aLive should not be a thing from a top-tier Protoss. | ||
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Penev
28536 Posts
On March 20 2017 21:52 Musicus wrote: I think the shade cooldown being increased would be better to weaken their harassment, without making them getting worse in straigh up fights. one or the other, they're too survivalist for my taste as they are now I do prefer the small hp nerf tho cuz I'm also not the biggest fan of shading on top of the opponents army | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16103 Posts
On March 20 2017 21:56 pvsnp wrote: I'd be happy if Zest could reliably beat the second-string Terrans, for starters. Losing to people like KeeN or aLive should not be a thing from a top-tier Protoss. Zest lost to Keen before the nerfs and aLive might actually be top 4 terran right now. | ||
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Elentos
55594 Posts
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-KG-
Denmark1219 Posts
On March 20 2017 21:46 -KG- wrote: Toss being crushed today :/ Although Stats says different | ||
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Elentos
55594 Posts
On March 20 2017 21:59 Charoisaur wrote: Zest lost to Keen before the nerfs and aLive might actually be top 4 terran right now. I think aLive is only top 4 Terran if he plays online or outside of Korea. Offline games in Korea? No bueno. | ||
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Elentos
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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