On November 18 2016 08:54 KingofdaHipHop wrote: so they're changing everything except for the reapers
"This build is new." - David Kim
yea its almost like i didnt lose homestory cup last december to the same thing
you just have to not let them get there
lol
But, would it help if reaper grenade did no damage and just pushed units away? Or it would be broken the same way?
worth a try at least
not really, there is no reason for the nade to be in the game at all
But the Cool Factor™ that they keep talking about.
Actually those grenades need a buff. They need to be able to knock down buildings as well. Imagine jumping hatchery! You could make hatchery go down a hole in the ground. That would be cool! + Show Spoiler +
On November 18 2016 08:54 KingofdaHipHop wrote: so they're changing everything except for the reapers
"This build is new." - David Kim
yea its almost like i didnt lose homestory cup last december to the same thing
you just have to not let them get there
lol
But, would it help if reaper grenade did no damage and just pushed units away? Or it would be broken the same way?
worth a try at least
not really, there is no reason for the nade to be in the game at all
Reapers are trash without the grenade, by the time a reaper is out theres already adepts/queens/etc out, so they are pretty useless for such a high cost.
On November 18 2016 08:52 Solar424 wrote: Get rid of this cancer please. Love that otherwise average Terrans like Kelazhur and uThermal can beat top Zergs becaus of this shit.
uthermal average terran?
uThermal was a mid tier terran until around spring of this year, when he suddenly became the top foreign Terran. That's when Terran players realized they can spam reapers and get easy wins.
Blizzard tells me reapers were only strong for the last few weeks. How could this be?
On November 18 2016 08:52 Solar424 wrote: Get rid of this cancer please. Love that otherwise average Terrans like Kelazhur and uThermal can beat top Zergs becaus of this shit.
uthermal average terran?
uThermal was a mid tier terran until around spring of this year, when he suddenly became the top foreign Terran. That's when Terran players realized they can spam reapers and get easy wins.
It's not like other terrans are forbidden to build reapers. You could argue that ByuN is an average terran with shitty logic like that.
On November 18 2016 08:52 Solar424 wrote: Get rid of this cancer please. Love that otherwise average Terrans like Kelazhur and uThermal can beat top Zergs becaus of this shit.
uthermal average terran?
uThermal was a mid tier terran until around spring of this year, when he suddenly became the top foreign Terran. That's when Terran players realized they can spam reapers and get easy wins.
Blizzard tells me reapers were only strong for the last few weeks. How could this be?
They've been completely unchanged since LotV beta. This map pool just amplifies the ability to do damage. It's like the map pool that made the blink all-in era except it's worse because it's not all-in at all, it hits way sooner, and there's even less the defender can do.
On November 18 2016 08:52 Solar424 wrote: Get rid of this cancer please. Love that otherwise average Terrans like Kelazhur and uThermal can beat top Zergs becaus of this shit.
uthermal average terran?
uThermal was a mid tier terran until around spring of this year, when he suddenly became the top foreign Terran. That's when Terran players realized they can spam reapers and get easy wins.
Blizzard tells me reapers were only strong for the last few weeks. How could this be?
They've been completely unchanged since LotV beta. This map pool just amplifies the ability to do damage. It's like the map pool that made the blink all-in era except it's worse because it's not all-in at all, it hits way sooner, and there's even less the defender can do.
Yeah poor zergs they can't do anything against 3 rax reapers. Except actually they can and uThermal ain't gonna win HSC, get over it. And allin or not doesn't mean much since it's harass based, it's about how well you trade, it's not a single attack. It's cute seeing random posters / players complain like after Blizzcon tho.
On November 18 2016 08:52 Solar424 wrote: Get rid of this cancer please. Love that otherwise average Terrans like Kelazhur and uThermal can beat top Zergs becaus of this shit.
uthermal average terran?
uThermal was a mid tier terran until around spring of this year, when he suddenly became the top foreign Terran. That's when Terran players realized they can spam reapers and get easy wins.
Blizzard tells me reapers were only strong for the last few weeks. How could this be?
They've been completely unchanged since LotV beta. This map pool just amplifies the ability to do damage. It's like the map pool that made the blink all-in era except it's worse because it's not all-in at all, it hits way sooner, and there's even less the defender can do.
In all seriousness I totally get what you're saying and think there's some truth to it but Terrans 3rax on any map and say it's because it's a bad map.
On November 18 2016 08:52 Solar424 wrote: Get rid of this cancer please. Love that otherwise average Terrans like Kelazhur and uThermal can beat top Zergs becaus of this shit.
uthermal average terran?
uThermal was a mid tier terran until around spring of this year, when he suddenly became the top foreign Terran. That's when Terran players realized they can spam reapers and get easy wins.
Blizzard tells me reapers were only strong for the last few weeks. How could this be?
They've been completely unchanged since LotV beta. This map pool just amplifies the ability to do damage. It's like the map pool that made the blink all-in era except it's worse because it's not all-in at all, it hits way sooner, and there's even less the defender can do.
In all seriousness I totally get what you're saying and think there's some truth to it but Terrans 3rax on any map and say it's because it's a bad map.
They do it on Frost even.
I know, but maps like Frozen and Galactic are so Terran favored in general, it basically makes it so Zerg only has 5 maps it can win on against an equal opponent. Terran can just deny the 4th forever with tanks because of all the cliffs and rocks.
On November 18 2016 08:52 Solar424 wrote: Get rid of this cancer please. Love that otherwise average Terrans like Kelazhur and uThermal can beat top Zergs becaus of this shit.
uthermal average terran?
uThermal was a mid tier terran until around spring of this year, when he suddenly became the top foreign Terran. That's when Terran players realized they can spam reapers and get easy wins.
Blizzard tells me reapers were only strong for the last few weeks. How could this be?
They've been completely unchanged since LotV beta. This map pool just amplifies the ability to do damage. It's like the map pool that made the blink all-in era except it's worse because it's not all-in at all, it hits way sooner, and there's even less the defender can do.
Yeah poor zergs they can't do anything against 3 rax reapers. Except actually they can and uThermal ain't gonna win HSC, get over it. And allin or not doesn't mean much since it's harass based, it's about how well you trade, it's not a single attack. It's cute seeing random posters / players complain like after Blizzcon tho.
You mean the Blizzcon that Byun won, which was helped because of reapers? Not saying he would have lost without them, but they certainly helped. Show me a game where Zerg defends against 3 rax reaper on Frozen Temple against an evenly matched opponent and comes out ahead and I'll be amazed.
On November 18 2016 08:52 Solar424 wrote: Get rid of this cancer please. Love that otherwise average Terrans like Kelazhur and uThermal can beat top Zergs becaus of this shit.
uthermal average terran?
uThermal was a mid tier terran until around spring of this year, when he suddenly became the top foreign Terran. That's when Terran players realized they can spam reapers and get easy wins.
Blizzard tells me reapers were only strong for the last few weeks. How could this be?
They've been completely unchanged since LotV beta. This map pool just amplifies the ability to do damage. It's like the map pool that made the blink all-in era except it's worse because it's not all-in at all, it hits way sooner, and there's even less the defender can do.
Yeah poor zergs they can't do anything against 3 rax reapers. Except actually they can and uThermal ain't gonna win HSC, get over it. And allin or not doesn't mean much since it's harass based, it's about how well you trade, it's not a single attack. It's cute seeing random posters / players complain like after Blizzcon tho.
You mean the Blizzcon that Byun won, which was helped because of reapers? Not saying he would have lost without them, but they certainly helped. Show me a game where Zerg defends against 3 rax reaper on Frozen Temple against an evenly matched opponent and comes out ahead and I'll be amazed.
It does happen occasionally when the terran messes up. ByuN vs soO in VSL team league for example. If both players play very well the terran player ends up slightly ahead.
On November 18 2016 08:54 KingofdaHipHop wrote: so they're changing everything except for the reapers
"This build is new." - David Kim
yea its almost like i didnt lose homestory cup last december to the same thing
you just have to not let them get there
lol
But, would it help if reaper grenade did no damage and just pushed units away? Or it would be broken the same way?
worth a try at least
not really, there is no reason for the nade to be in the game at all
Reapers are trash without the grenade, by the time a reaper is out theres already adepts/queens/etc out, so they are pretty useless for such a high cost.
Yeah just like they were useless in HotS
You totally ignored what I wrote in my post.
In HotS you started with half the economy so such an early game unit like the reaper was stronger, in LotV is much weaker. Early game economy plays a great role on the strenght of reapers.
On November 18 2016 08:52 Solar424 wrote: Get rid of this cancer please. Love that otherwise average Terrans like Kelazhur and uThermal can beat top Zergs becaus of this shit.
uthermal average terran?
uThermal was a mid tier terran until around spring of this year, when he suddenly became the top foreign Terran. That's when Terran players realized they can spam reapers and get easy wins.
terran players realized that way earlier and also uThermal does way more than just use reapers. Turns out if you find something that works against your opponent you use it to win.
On November 18 2016 08:52 Solar424 wrote: Get rid of this cancer please. Love that otherwise average Terrans like Kelazhur and uThermal can beat top Zergs becaus of this shit.
uthermal average terran?
uThermal was a mid tier terran until around spring of this year, when he suddenly became the top foreign Terran. That's when Terran players realized they can spam reapers and get easy wins.
terran players realized that way earlier and also uThermal does way more than just use reapers. Turns out if you find something that works against your opponent you use it to win.