|
On August 10 2016 21:53 gobbledydook wrote:
meditanks are awful to watch.
please remove them already.
I think it would be good to limit tank pickups somehow. It's a nice idea, but like so many of their ideas for SC2, it undermines positional games and makes games come down to instant decision making.
|
On August 10 2016 21:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 21:47 Elentos wrote:On August 10 2016 21:45 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 10 2016 21:41 Charoisaur wrote:On August 10 2016 21:40 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 10 2016 21:37 Elentos wrote:On August 10 2016 21:36 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 10 2016 21:35 Elentos wrote:On August 10 2016 21:34 Ej_ wrote:On August 10 2016 21:34 Elentos wrote:
Afreeca TV logo block the worker count, RIP it's the Korean approach, the less information, the better The Apollo approach Meh i actually agree with him on that  I think it's really fake and if you can't make a decent story with the information on screen you're not doing a great job casting The problem is that everybody is accustomed to having all this information atm. But imo gameplay alone should be enough to watch the game. Show both povs, maybe supply and everything else is told by actual gameplay on screen. the game is exciting enough as it is. I don't see why you need to hide information to artificially create hype The point is that the game should be enjoyable and tell ts narrative with the least information reasonably possible. I can totally understand that you want mass information for learning purposes, but that can be done after the game played out as well. The truth is that the more information you have, the less you actually need to watch the game which is bad. There are no replays released for any Korean event. Can't learn without VODs that have the info. Also if having the information means that you don't need to watch the game, then the gameplay probably wasn't good enough to warrant your attention to begin with. Just admit that you want to ruin everyone's shitposting quota by making them pay more attention to the game. Not necessarily talking about replays, you can show all the relevant information after the games are done in an analysis section or something. People get really defensive about this though, don't worry i don't care that much about it, but i can definitely see where the idea of showing less information is coming from. It's actually logical and makes sense.
You realize they're probably not doing it on purpose, they just misplaced their logo to accidently cover up one of the player's worker numbers.
|
Yeah, I hope we'll still get to see that smiling face again!
|
On August 10 2016 21:55 GumBa wrote:
Ryung? What year is it?
#yearofryung!!!!!!
|
On August 10 2016 21:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 21:47 Elentos wrote:On August 10 2016 21:45 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 10 2016 21:41 Charoisaur wrote:On August 10 2016 21:40 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 10 2016 21:37 Elentos wrote:On August 10 2016 21:36 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 10 2016 21:35 Elentos wrote:On August 10 2016 21:34 Ej_ wrote:On August 10 2016 21:34 Elentos wrote:
Afreeca TV logo block the worker count, RIP it's the Korean approach, the less information, the better The Apollo approach Meh i actually agree with him on that I think it's really fake and if you can't make a decent story with the information on screen you're not doing a great job casting The problem is that everybody is accustomed to having all this information atm. But imo gameplay alone should be enough to watch the game. Show both povs, maybe supply and everything else is told by actual gameplay on screen. the game is exciting enough as it is. I don't see why you need to hide information to artificially create hype The point is that the game should be enjoyable and tell ts narrative with the least information reasonably possible. I can totally understand that you want mass information for learning purposes, but that can be done after the game played out as well. The truth is that the more information you have, the less you actually need to watch the game which is bad. There are no replays released for any Korean event. Can't learn without VODs that have the info. Also if having the information means that you don't need to watch the game, then the gameplay probably wasn't good enough to warrant your attention to begin with. Just admit that you want to ruin everyone's shitposting quota by making them pay more attention to the game. Not necessarily talking about replays, you can show all the relevant information after the games are done in an analysis section or something. People get really defensive about this though, don't worry i don't care that much about it, but i can definitely see where the idea of showing less information is coming from. It's actually logical and makes sense.
I think 6 years into SC2 it's not logical and makes no sense. If it had been like that since 2010 it would have been okay.
|
Feels strange to say farewell to a legend such as TaeJa. On the other hand, he was gonna retire no matter what, and Ryung advancing to the ro8 is awesome too.
|
On August 10 2016 21:53 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 21:52 ihatevideogames wrote:
''TvT is just great man, it comes down to who can drop the tanks first!!''
Did he really just say that? I mean, I know casters are supossed to hype the game and all, but come on! can't really criticize the game as a caster.
Obviously, I don't expect to hear the casters saying how awful tankivacs are. It's their job to be positive and hype the game.
But saying something like that? Even hypocrisy has it's limits, you know.
|
And now for the customary Ryung balance whine
|
Taeja o/ mad props to the guy, retired player taking out Zest thanks to his decision making. Amazing to watch his games.
|
On August 10 2016 21:56 ihatevideogames wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 21:53 Charoisaur wrote:On August 10 2016 21:52 ihatevideogames wrote:
''TvT is just great man, it comes down to who can drop the tanks first!!''
Did he really just say that? I mean, I know casters are supossed to hype the game and all, but come on! can't really criticize the game as a caster. Obviously, I don't expect to hear the casters saying how awful tankivacs are. It's their job to be positive and hype the game. But saying something like that? Even hypocrisy has it's limits, you know.
Wolf is dead serious when he says things like that.
|
On August 10 2016 21:56 shabby wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 21:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 10 2016 21:47 Elentos wrote:On August 10 2016 21:45 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 10 2016 21:41 Charoisaur wrote:On August 10 2016 21:40 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 10 2016 21:37 Elentos wrote:On August 10 2016 21:36 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 10 2016 21:35 Elentos wrote:On August 10 2016 21:34 Ej_ wrote:
[quote]
it's the Korean approach, the less information, the better The Apollo approach Meh i actually agree with him on that I think it's really fake and if you can't make a decent story with the information on screen you're not doing a great job casting The problem is that everybody is accustomed to having all this information atm. But imo gameplay alone should be enough to watch the game. Show both povs, maybe supply and everything else is told by actual gameplay on screen. the game is exciting enough as it is. I don't see why you need to hide information to artificially create hype The point is that the game should be enjoyable and tell ts narrative with the least information reasonably possible. I can totally understand that you want mass information for learning purposes, but that can be done after the game played out as well. The truth is that the more information you have, the less you actually need to watch the game which is bad. There are no replays released for any Korean event. Can't learn without VODs that have the info. Also if having the information means that you don't need to watch the game, then the gameplay probably wasn't good enough to warrant your attention to begin with. Just admit that you want to ruin everyone's shitposting quota by making them pay more attention to the game. Not necessarily talking about replays, you can show all the relevant information after the games are done in an analysis section or something. People get really defensive about this though, don't worry i don't care that much about it, but i can definitely see where the idea of showing less information is coming from. It's actually logical and makes sense. You realize they're probably not doing it on purpose, they just misplaced their logo to accidently cover up one of the player's worker numbers.
You realize i never said otherwise? Obviously we are talking about the concept of showing less information in general and no this didn't come up because of this error, cmon guys wtf -.-
|
On August 10 2016 21:53 gobbledydook wrote:
meditanks are awful to watch.
please remove them already.
can agree, boring to watch and play... i really miss the old tvt.
|
On August 10 2016 21:56 neutralrobot wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 21:53 gobbledydook wrote:
meditanks are awful to watch.
please remove them already. I think it would be good to limit tank pickups somehow. It's a nice idea, but like so many of their ideas for SC2, it undermines positional games and makes games come down to instant decision making.
They often design defensive things and overlook the offensive potency of those things
Pylons are another nice example of that
|
Thanks for the memories, Taeja.
As for TvT, that match up is so unfun to watch. Sure it is intense to watch the positional struggle, but there is almost no decisive tactics that can overtake a game other than dropping tanks first. You miss the drop by .25 sec? You're gunna be down 40 supply. It's really kinda irritating because a player might be gaining momentum in q game (like this one where Taeja was starting to mass expand and was up an armor upgrade) but still got shit on by 8 tankivacs. Makes me wish that there were alternatives/intuitive counters to tankivacs other than MOAR TANKS AND THE BETTER DRAW ON THE DROP.
|
On August 10 2016 21:55 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 21:53 WGT-Baal wrote:On August 10 2016 21:48 Heartland wrote:
I want to have more information on the screen because casters are sometimes bad at conveying what's going on in a game. "Sometimes" I'm trying to hold it in but... we have a real lack of actually good casters imo
artosis? tasteless?
|
On August 10 2016 21:56 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 21:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 10 2016 21:47 Elentos wrote:On August 10 2016 21:45 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 10 2016 21:41 Charoisaur wrote:On August 10 2016 21:40 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 10 2016 21:37 Elentos wrote:On August 10 2016 21:36 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 10 2016 21:35 Elentos wrote:On August 10 2016 21:34 Ej_ wrote:
[quote]
it's the Korean approach, the less information, the better The Apollo approach Meh i actually agree with him on that I think it's really fake and if you can't make a decent story with the information on screen you're not doing a great job casting The problem is that everybody is accustomed to having all this information atm. But imo gameplay alone should be enough to watch the game. Show both povs, maybe supply and everything else is told by actual gameplay on screen. the game is exciting enough as it is. I don't see why you need to hide information to artificially create hype The point is that the game should be enjoyable and tell ts narrative with the least information reasonably possible. I can totally understand that you want mass information for learning purposes, but that can be done after the game played out as well. The truth is that the more information you have, the less you actually need to watch the game which is bad. There are no replays released for any Korean event. Can't learn without VODs that have the info. Also if having the information means that you don't need to watch the game, then the gameplay probably wasn't good enough to warrant your attention to begin with. Just admit that you want to ruin everyone's shitposting quota by making them pay more attention to the game. Not necessarily talking about replays, you can show all the relevant information after the games are done in an analysis section or something. People get really defensive about this though, don't worry i don't care that much about it, but i can definitely see where the idea of showing less information is coming from. It's actually logical and makes sense. I think 6 years into SC2 it's not logical and makes no sense. If it had been like that since 2010 it would have been okay.
Sure you cannot really go back now, i agree with this. I am more talking about the general concept here.
|
So Taeja said to Zest "I'm going down but I'm taking you down with me too!".
Seriously, he didn't advance but he put a show so it was a good way to retire. He should be happy!
|
Well i won my sigbet 
|
On August 10 2016 21:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 21:53 gobbledydook wrote:
meditanks are awful to watch.
please remove them already. I hope that's in the plans for this week balance test map, with adept shade cooldown and ultra armor
Yeah it would be fairly reasonable, either a shade cooldown or something like giving HP to the shades and we kill it it cancel the spell. As for tank, I just hope that by nerfing tankivacs they aren't going to buff tanks attack, I'd really prefer not going back to all the mech tank boring stuffs (to me). 
|
On August 10 2016 21:58 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 21:55 Elentos wrote:On August 10 2016 21:53 WGT-Baal wrote:On August 10 2016 21:48 Heartland wrote:
I want to have more information on the screen because casters are sometimes bad at conveying what's going on in a game. "Sometimes" I'm trying to hold it in but... we have a real lack of actually good casters imo artosis? tasteless?
I'm personally not much of a fan of their SC2 casting anymore, I think they do a lot better with Brood War.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
