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On August 10 2016 22:06 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 22:05 Elentos wrote:On August 10 2016 22:02 EatingBomber wrote:On August 10 2016 22:00 MLuneth wrote:On August 10 2016 21:58 KOtical wrote:On August 10 2016 21:53 gobbledydook wrote: meditanks are awful to watch. please remove them already. can agree, boring to watch and play... i really miss the old tvt. Please no, old TvT was super overrated new TvT is so much better I will have to disagree. Tankivacs have completely destroyed the stability and any semblance of strategy left in the matchup At least at the end of the day the better player still wins basically every time. but TaeJa lost.. Further proving my point.
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On August 10 2016 22:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 22:04 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 10 2016 22:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 10 2016 22:01 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 10 2016 21:56 Penev wrote:On August 10 2016 21:54 Cricketer12 wrote: I AM THE GOD OF LIQUIBET you actually bet herO Ryung? i actually predicted every match 100% a literal god And a Pashunlord to boot.... I did bet Ryung and I'm quite proud of that one because I did have a feeling he would make something happen. I did believe too much in Zest though. No way Zest could advance. TaeJa always beats Zest. And he sucks so herO would beat him. And ryung is a god so he would knock zest into loser's match.
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On August 10 2016 22:06 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 22:05 Elentos wrote:On August 10 2016 22:02 EatingBomber wrote:On August 10 2016 22:00 MLuneth wrote:On August 10 2016 21:58 KOtical wrote:On August 10 2016 21:53 gobbledydook wrote: meditanks are awful to watch. please remove them already. can agree, boring to watch and play... i really miss the old tvt. Please no, old TvT was super overrated new TvT is so much better I will have to disagree. Tankivacs have completely destroyed the stability and any semblance of strategy left in the matchup At least at the end of the day the better player still wins basically every time. but TaeJa lost.. Q.E.D.
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On August 10 2016 22:07 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 22:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 10 2016 22:04 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 10 2016 22:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 10 2016 22:01 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 10 2016 21:56 Penev wrote:On August 10 2016 21:54 Cricketer12 wrote: I AM THE GOD OF LIQUIBET you actually bet herO Ryung? i actually predicted every match 100% a literal god And a Pashunlord to boot.... I did bet Ryung and I'm quite proud of that one because I did have a feeling he would make something happen. I did believe too much in Zest though. No way Zest could advance. TaeJa always beats Zest. And he sucks so herO would beat him. And ryung is a god so he would knock zest into loser's match. "TaeJa always beats Zest" not in lotv
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On August 10 2016 22:05 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 22:02 EatingBomber wrote:On August 10 2016 22:00 MLuneth wrote:On August 10 2016 21:58 KOtical wrote:On August 10 2016 21:53 gobbledydook wrote: meditanks are awful to watch. please remove them already. can agree, boring to watch and play... i really miss the old tvt. Please no, old TvT was super overrated new TvT is so much better I will have to disagree. Tankivacs have completely destroyed the stability and any semblance of strategy left in the matchup At least at the end of the day the better player still wins basically every time.
lol actually no. just the player with 1 better engagement wins...
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On August 10 2016 22:07 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 22:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 10 2016 22:04 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 10 2016 22:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 10 2016 22:01 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 10 2016 21:56 Penev wrote:On August 10 2016 21:54 Cricketer12 wrote: I AM THE GOD OF LIQUIBET you actually bet herO Ryung? i actually predicted every match 100% a literal god And a Pashunlord to boot.... I did bet Ryung and I'm quite proud of that one because I did have a feeling he would make something happen. I did believe too much in Zest though. No way Zest could advance. TaeJa always beats Zest. And he sucks so herO would beat him. And ryung is a god so he would knock zest into loser's match. Yeah, except in GSL season 1...
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On August 10 2016 22:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 22:07 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 10 2016 22:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 10 2016 22:04 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 10 2016 22:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 10 2016 22:01 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 10 2016 21:56 Penev wrote:On August 10 2016 21:54 Cricketer12 wrote: I AM THE GOD OF LIQUIBET you actually bet herO Ryung? i actually predicted every match 100% a literal god And a Pashunlord to boot.... I did bet Ryung and I'm quite proud of that one because I did have a feeling he would make something happen. I did believe too much in Zest though. No way Zest could advance. TaeJa always beats Zest. And he sucks so herO would beat him. And ryung is a god so he would knock zest into loser's match. "TaeJa always beats Zest" not in lotv Well, I followed HotS a lot more than Legacy...apparently lack of pashun = better understanding of pro scene.
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On August 10 2016 22:08 KOtical wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 22:05 Elentos wrote:On August 10 2016 22:02 EatingBomber wrote:On August 10 2016 22:00 MLuneth wrote:On August 10 2016 21:58 KOtical wrote:On August 10 2016 21:53 gobbledydook wrote: meditanks are awful to watch. please remove them already. can agree, boring to watch and play... i really miss the old tvt. Please no, old TvT was super overrated new TvT is so much better I will have to disagree. Tankivacs have completely destroyed the stability and any semblance of strategy left in the matchup At least at the end of the day the better player still wins basically every time. lol actually no. just the player with 1 better engagement wins... It's part of being the better player to not run into engagements that lose you the game. That's why the top Korean Terrans have such insane TvT win rates.
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On August 10 2016 22:10 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 22:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 10 2016 22:07 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 10 2016 22:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 10 2016 22:04 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 10 2016 22:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 10 2016 22:01 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 10 2016 21:56 Penev wrote:On August 10 2016 21:54 Cricketer12 wrote: I AM THE GOD OF LIQUIBET you actually bet herO Ryung? i actually predicted every match 100% a literal god And a Pashunlord to boot.... I did bet Ryung and I'm quite proud of that one because I did have a feeling he would make something happen. I did believe too much in Zest though. No way Zest could advance. TaeJa always beats Zest. And he sucks so herO would beat him. And ryung is a god so he would knock zest into loser's match. "TaeJa always beats Zest" not in lotv Well, I followed HotS a lot more than Legacy...apparently lack of pashun = better understanding of pro scene. guess so
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I remember when Taeja was still only famous in the Korean Weekly, cast by Orb. Just a kid wrecking any Korean he sees. He eventually got on a good team and made history. Respect!
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On August 10 2016 22:08 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 22:07 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 10 2016 22:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 10 2016 22:04 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 10 2016 22:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 10 2016 22:01 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 10 2016 21:56 Penev wrote:On August 10 2016 21:54 Cricketer12 wrote: I AM THE GOD OF LIQUIBET you actually bet herO Ryung? i actually predicted every match 100% a literal god And a Pashunlord to boot.... I did bet Ryung and I'm quite proud of that one because I did have a feeling he would make something happen. I did believe too much in Zest though. No way Zest could advance. TaeJa always beats Zest. And he sucks so herO would beat him. And ryung is a god so he would knock zest into loser's match. Yeah, except in GSL season 1... Listen...don't take my moment. My fucking weird-ass bias and logic finally worked in a very weird way. Let me bask in this glory. Pretty sure only Dream 4-0 herO prediction beats out this...
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On August 10 2016 22:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 22:10 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 10 2016 22:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 10 2016 22:07 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 10 2016 22:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 10 2016 22:04 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 10 2016 22:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 10 2016 22:01 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 10 2016 21:56 Penev wrote:On August 10 2016 21:54 Cricketer12 wrote: I AM THE GOD OF LIQUIBET you actually bet herO Ryung? i actually predicted every match 100% a literal god And a Pashunlord to boot.... I did bet Ryung and I'm quite proud of that one because I did have a feeling he would make something happen. I did believe too much in Zest though. No way Zest could advance. TaeJa always beats Zest. And he sucks so herO would beat him. And ryung is a god so he would knock zest into loser's match. "TaeJa always beats Zest" not in lotv Well, I followed HotS a lot more than Legacy...apparently lack of pashun = better understanding of pro scene. guess so  Well obviously, if players get better after announcing their retirement, fans' Liquibets should improve the less passion they have.
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On August 10 2016 22:12 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 22:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 10 2016 22:10 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 10 2016 22:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 10 2016 22:07 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 10 2016 22:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 10 2016 22:04 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 10 2016 22:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:a literal god And a Pashunlord to boot.... I did bet Ryung and I'm quite proud of that one because I did have a feeling he would make something happen. I did believe too much in Zest though. No way Zest could advance. TaeJa always beats Zest. And he sucks so herO would beat him. And ryung is a god so he would knock zest into loser's match. "TaeJa always beats Zest" not in lotv Well, I followed HotS a lot more than Legacy...apparently lack of pashun = better understanding of pro scene. guess so  Well obviously, if players get better after announcing their retirement, fans' Liquibets should improve the less passion they have. GSL season 1 was a KT mirror finals...I chose to forget what happened...
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On August 10 2016 22:10 Penev wrote: Guys, Zest is in a slump
Somewhere in the world, swag_bro looks at the sky, sips his cup of green tea and thinks "Zest is in a slump."
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On August 10 2016 22:10 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 22:08 KOtical wrote:On August 10 2016 22:05 Elentos wrote:On August 10 2016 22:02 EatingBomber wrote:On August 10 2016 22:00 MLuneth wrote:On August 10 2016 21:58 KOtical wrote:On August 10 2016 21:53 gobbledydook wrote: meditanks are awful to watch. please remove them already. can agree, boring to watch and play... i really miss the old tvt. Please no, old TvT was super overrated new TvT is so much better I will have to disagree. Tankivacs have completely destroyed the stability and any semblance of strategy left in the matchup At least at the end of the day the better player still wins basically every time. lol actually no. just the player with 1 better engagement wins... It's part of being the better player to not run into engagements that lose you the game. That's why the top Korean Terrans have such insane TvT win rates. I still don't like it that games are solely decided by one engagement. it was a problem in HotS with collossus armies and now with mass tankivacs it's the same.
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On August 10 2016 22:14 Silvana wrote:Somewhere in the world, swag_bro looks at the sky, sips his cup of green tea and thinks "Zest is in a slump." I wonder who swag bro would have liquibet...
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On August 10 2016 22:14 Silvana wrote:Somewhere in the world, swag_bro looks at the sky, sips his cup of green tea and thinks "Zest is in a slump." Meanwhile on the other side of the world, Sack_Of_Wet_Mice closes his browser and notes in his diary: "Zest is still a patchtoss"
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top koreans did have insane tvt win rates even without tankivacs... so win rates doesnt make any point here... the problem is with tankivacs games can be decided in less than 2 seconds, were as without them people need to get into good positions and so on. i could compare this with WoL PvT were it basicly was hit forcefields correct in 2 secs and win. miss them and lose... that doesnt make the game a strategy game anymore. its way more about a split second of execution. and with a good tankivac drop you can win games even though u have been far behind, and thats kinda redicilous...
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On August 10 2016 22:16 KOtical wrote: top koreans did have insane tvt win rates even without tankivacs... so win rates doesnt make any point here... the problem is with tankivacs games can be decided in less than 2 seconds, were as without them people need to get into good positions and so on. i could compare this with WoL PvT were it basicly was hit forcefields correct in 2 secs and win. miss them and lose... that doesnt make the game a strategy game anymore. its way more about a split second of execution. and with a good tankivac drop you can win games even though u have been far behind, and thats kinda redicilous... Actually, their win rates not dropping significantly means that the matchup wasn't completely messed up by flying tanks as some people like to claim.
It's a nuisance but TvT has been in worse spots before. Even mech found its way into the Korean meta.
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