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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
August 10 2016 13:07 GMT
#981
On August 10 2016 22:06 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 22:05 Elentos wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:02 EatingBomber wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:00 MLuneth wrote:
On August 10 2016 21:58 KOtical wrote:
On August 10 2016 21:53 gobbledydook wrote:
meditanks are awful to watch.
please remove them already.


can agree, boring to watch and play... i really miss the old tvt.

Please no, old TvT was super overrated new TvT is so much better

I will have to disagree. Tankivacs have completely destroyed the stability and any semblance of strategy left in the matchup

At least at the end of the day the better player still wins basically every time.

but TaeJa lost..

Further proving my point.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
August 10 2016 13:07 GMT
#982
On August 10 2016 22:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 22:04 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:01 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 10 2016 21:56 Penev wrote:
On August 10 2016 21:54 Cricketer12 wrote:
I AM THE GOD OF LIQUIBET

you actually bet herO Ryung?

i actually predicted every match 100%

a literal god

And a Pashunlord to boot....

I did bet Ryung and I'm quite proud of that one because I did have a feeling he would make something happen. I did believe too much in Zest though.

No way Zest could advance. TaeJa always beats Zest. And he sucks so herO would beat him. And ryung is a god so he would knock zest into loser's match.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 10 2016 13:07 GMT
#983
On August 10 2016 22:06 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 22:05 Elentos wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:02 EatingBomber wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:00 MLuneth wrote:
On August 10 2016 21:58 KOtical wrote:
On August 10 2016 21:53 gobbledydook wrote:
meditanks are awful to watch.
please remove them already.


can agree, boring to watch and play... i really miss the old tvt.

Please no, old TvT was super overrated new TvT is so much better

I will have to disagree. Tankivacs have completely destroyed the stability and any semblance of strategy left in the matchup

At least at the end of the day the better player still wins basically every time.

but TaeJa lost..

Q.E.D.
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24233 Posts
August 10 2016 13:07 GMT
#984
On August 10 2016 22:07 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 22:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:04 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:01 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 10 2016 21:56 Penev wrote:
On August 10 2016 21:54 Cricketer12 wrote:
I AM THE GOD OF LIQUIBET

you actually bet herO Ryung?

i actually predicted every match 100%

a literal god

And a Pashunlord to boot....

I did bet Ryung and I'm quite proud of that one because I did have a feeling he would make something happen. I did believe too much in Zest though.

No way Zest could advance. TaeJa always beats Zest. And he sucks so herO would beat him. And ryung is a god so he would knock zest into loser's match.

"TaeJa always beats Zest"
not in lotv
KOtical
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany451 Posts
August 10 2016 13:08 GMT
#985
On August 10 2016 22:05 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 22:02 EatingBomber wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:00 MLuneth wrote:
On August 10 2016 21:58 KOtical wrote:
On August 10 2016 21:53 gobbledydook wrote:
meditanks are awful to watch.
please remove them already.


can agree, boring to watch and play... i really miss the old tvt.

Please no, old TvT was super overrated new TvT is so much better

I will have to disagree. Tankivacs have completely destroyed the stability and any semblance of strategy left in the matchup

At least at the end of the day the better player still wins basically every time.


lol actually no. just the player with 1 better engagement wins...
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
August 10 2016 13:08 GMT
#986
On August 10 2016 22:07 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 22:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:04 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:01 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 10 2016 21:56 Penev wrote:
On August 10 2016 21:54 Cricketer12 wrote:
I AM THE GOD OF LIQUIBET

you actually bet herO Ryung?

i actually predicted every match 100%

a literal god

And a Pashunlord to boot....

I did bet Ryung and I'm quite proud of that one because I did have a feeling he would make something happen. I did believe too much in Zest though.

No way Zest could advance. TaeJa always beats Zest. And he sucks so herO would beat him. And ryung is a god so he would knock zest into loser's match.

Yeah, except in GSL season 1...
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28500 Posts
August 10 2016 13:10 GMT
#987
Guys, Zest is in a slump
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
August 10 2016 13:10 GMT
#988
On August 10 2016 22:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 22:07 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:04 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:01 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 10 2016 21:56 Penev wrote:
On August 10 2016 21:54 Cricketer12 wrote:
I AM THE GOD OF LIQUIBET

you actually bet herO Ryung?

i actually predicted every match 100%

a literal god

And a Pashunlord to boot....

I did bet Ryung and I'm quite proud of that one because I did have a feeling he would make something happen. I did believe too much in Zest though.

No way Zest could advance. TaeJa always beats Zest. And he sucks so herO would beat him. And ryung is a god so he would knock zest into loser's match.

"TaeJa always beats Zest"
not in lotv

Well, I followed HotS a lot more than Legacy...apparently lack of pashun = better understanding of pro scene.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
August 10 2016 13:10 GMT
#989
On August 10 2016 22:08 KOtical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 22:05 Elentos wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:02 EatingBomber wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:00 MLuneth wrote:
On August 10 2016 21:58 KOtical wrote:
On August 10 2016 21:53 gobbledydook wrote:
meditanks are awful to watch.
please remove them already.


can agree, boring to watch and play... i really miss the old tvt.

Please no, old TvT was super overrated new TvT is so much better

I will have to disagree. Tankivacs have completely destroyed the stability and any semblance of strategy left in the matchup

At least at the end of the day the better player still wins basically every time.


lol actually no. just the player with 1 better engagement wins...

It's part of being the better player to not run into engagements that lose you the game. That's why the top Korean Terrans have such insane TvT win rates.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24233 Posts
August 10 2016 13:10 GMT
#990
On August 10 2016 22:10 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 22:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:07 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:04 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:01 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 10 2016 21:56 Penev wrote:
On August 10 2016 21:54 Cricketer12 wrote:
I AM THE GOD OF LIQUIBET

you actually bet herO Ryung?

i actually predicted every match 100%

a literal god

And a Pashunlord to boot....

I did bet Ryung and I'm quite proud of that one because I did have a feeling he would make something happen. I did believe too much in Zest though.

No way Zest could advance. TaeJa always beats Zest. And he sucks so herO would beat him. And ryung is a god so he would knock zest into loser's match.

"TaeJa always beats Zest"
not in lotv

Well, I followed HotS a lot more than Legacy...apparently lack of pashun = better understanding of pro scene.

guess so
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
August 10 2016 13:11 GMT
#991
I remember when Taeja was still only famous in the Korean Weekly, cast by Orb. Just a kid wrecking any Korean he sees. He eventually got on a good team and made history. Respect!
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
August 10 2016 13:11 GMT
#992
On August 10 2016 22:08 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 22:07 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:04 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:01 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 10 2016 21:56 Penev wrote:
On August 10 2016 21:54 Cricketer12 wrote:
I AM THE GOD OF LIQUIBET

you actually bet herO Ryung?

i actually predicted every match 100%

a literal god

And a Pashunlord to boot....

I did bet Ryung and I'm quite proud of that one because I did have a feeling he would make something happen. I did believe too much in Zest though.

No way Zest could advance. TaeJa always beats Zest. And he sucks so herO would beat him. And ryung is a god so he would knock zest into loser's match.

Yeah, except in GSL season 1...

Listen...don't take my moment. My fucking weird-ass bias and logic finally worked in a very weird way. Let me bask in this glory. Pretty sure only Dream 4-0 herO prediction beats out this...
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
August 10 2016 13:12 GMT
#993
On August 10 2016 22:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 22:10 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:07 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:04 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:01 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 10 2016 21:56 Penev wrote:
On August 10 2016 21:54 Cricketer12 wrote:
I AM THE GOD OF LIQUIBET

you actually bet herO Ryung?

i actually predicted every match 100%

a literal god

And a Pashunlord to boot....

I did bet Ryung and I'm quite proud of that one because I did have a feeling he would make something happen. I did believe too much in Zest though.

No way Zest could advance. TaeJa always beats Zest. And he sucks so herO would beat him. And ryung is a god so he would knock zest into loser's match.

"TaeJa always beats Zest"
not in lotv

Well, I followed HotS a lot more than Legacy...apparently lack of pashun = better understanding of pro scene.

guess so

Well obviously, if players get better after announcing their retirement, fans' Liquibets should improve the less passion they have.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
August 10 2016 13:13 GMT
#994
On August 10 2016 22:12 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 22:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:10 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:07 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:04 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:01 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 10 2016 21:56 Penev wrote:
[quote]
you actually bet herO Ryung?

i actually predicted every match 100%

a literal god

And a Pashunlord to boot....

I did bet Ryung and I'm quite proud of that one because I did have a feeling he would make something happen. I did believe too much in Zest though.

No way Zest could advance. TaeJa always beats Zest. And he sucks so herO would beat him. And ryung is a god so he would knock zest into loser's match.

"TaeJa always beats Zest"
not in lotv

Well, I followed HotS a lot more than Legacy...apparently lack of pashun = better understanding of pro scene.

guess so

Well obviously, if players get better after announcing their retirement, fans' Liquibets should improve the less passion they have.

GSL season 1 was a KT mirror finals...I chose to forget what happened...
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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
August 10 2016 13:14 GMT
#995
On August 10 2016 22:10 Penev wrote:
Guys, Zest is in a slump


Somewhere in the world, swag_bro looks at the sky, sips his cup of green tea and thinks "Zest is in a slump."
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16007 Posts
August 10 2016 13:15 GMT
#996
On August 10 2016 22:10 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 22:08 KOtical wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:05 Elentos wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:02 EatingBomber wrote:
On August 10 2016 22:00 MLuneth wrote:
On August 10 2016 21:58 KOtical wrote:
On August 10 2016 21:53 gobbledydook wrote:
meditanks are awful to watch.
please remove them already.


can agree, boring to watch and play... i really miss the old tvt.

Please no, old TvT was super overrated new TvT is so much better

I will have to disagree. Tankivacs have completely destroyed the stability and any semblance of strategy left in the matchup

At least at the end of the day the better player still wins basically every time.


lol actually no. just the player with 1 better engagement wins...

It's part of being the better player to not run into engagements that lose you the game. That's why the top Korean Terrans have such insane TvT win rates.

I still don't like it that games are solely decided by one engagement. it was a problem in HotS with collossus armies and now with mass tankivacs it's the same.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
August 10 2016 13:15 GMT
#997
On August 10 2016 22:14 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 22:10 Penev wrote:
Guys, Zest is in a slump


Somewhere in the world, swag_bro looks at the sky, sips his cup of green tea and thinks "Zest is in a slump."

I wonder who swag bro would have liquibet...
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
August 10 2016 13:15 GMT
#998
On August 10 2016 22:14 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 22:10 Penev wrote:
Guys, Zest is in a slump


Somewhere in the world, swag_bro looks at the sky, sips his cup of green tea and thinks "Zest is in a slump."

Meanwhile on the other side of the world, Sack_Of_Wet_Mice closes his browser and notes in his diary: "Zest is still a patchtoss"
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
KOtical
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany451 Posts
August 10 2016 13:16 GMT
#999
top koreans did have insane tvt win rates even without tankivacs... so win rates doesnt make any point here... the problem is with tankivacs games can be decided in less than 2 seconds, were as without them people need to get into good positions and so on.
i could compare this with WoL PvT were it basicly was hit forcefields correct in 2 secs and win. miss them and lose... that doesnt make the game a strategy game anymore. its way more about a split second of execution. and with a good tankivac drop you can win games even though u have been far behind, and thats kinda redicilous...
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-10 13:20:10
August 10 2016 13:18 GMT
#1000
On August 10 2016 22:16 KOtical wrote:
top koreans did have insane tvt win rates even without tankivacs... so win rates doesnt make any point here... the problem is with tankivacs games can be decided in less than 2 seconds, were as without them people need to get into good positions and so on.
i could compare this with WoL PvT were it basicly was hit forcefields correct in 2 secs and win. miss them and lose... that doesnt make the game a strategy game anymore. its way more about a split second of execution. and with a good tankivac drop you can win games even though u have been far behind, and thats kinda redicilous...

Actually, their win rates not dropping significantly means that the matchup wasn't completely messed up by flying tanks as some people like to claim.

It's a nuisance but TvT has been in worse spots before. Even mech found its way into the Korean meta.
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