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On August 10 2016 21:58 KOtical wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 21:53 gobbledydook wrote:
meditanks are awful to watch.
please remove them already. can agree, boring to watch and play... i really miss the old tvt.
Please no, old TvT was super overrated new TvT is so much better
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On August 10 2016 21:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:Well i won my sigbet 
Looking at the bright side huh?
Okay. Zest now will have more time available to prepare for Proleague!
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Cricketer12
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On August 10 2016 22:00 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 21:58 Charoisaur wrote:On August 10 2016 21:55 Elentos wrote:On August 10 2016 21:53 WGT-Baal wrote:On August 10 2016 21:48 Heartland wrote:
I want to have more information on the screen because casters are sometimes bad at conveying what's going on in a game. "Sometimes" I'm trying to hold it in but... we have a real lack of actually good casters imo artosis? tasteless? I'm personally not much of a fan of their SC2 casting anymore, I think they do a lot better with Brood War.
It helps when people are truly enthusiastic
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On August 10 2016 22:00 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 21:58 Charoisaur wrote:On August 10 2016 21:55 Elentos wrote:On August 10 2016 21:53 WGT-Baal wrote:On August 10 2016 21:48 Heartland wrote:
I want to have more information on the screen because casters are sometimes bad at conveying what's going on in a game. "Sometimes" I'm trying to hold it in but... we have a real lack of actually good casters imo artosis? tasteless? I'm personally not much of a fan of their SC2 casting anymore, I think they do a lot better with Brood War.
Do you actually watch ASL? :D I agree with you though, in general i think sc2 casting is at its best when Tasteless and Artosis don't cast together.
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On August 10 2016 21:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 21:56 shabby wrote:On August 10 2016 21:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 10 2016 21:47 Elentos wrote:On August 10 2016 21:45 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 10 2016 21:41 Charoisaur wrote:On August 10 2016 21:40 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 10 2016 21:37 Elentos wrote:On August 10 2016 21:36 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 10 2016 21:35 Elentos wrote:
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The Apollo approach Meh i actually agree with him on that  I think it's really fake and if you can't make a decent story with the information on screen you're not doing a great job casting The problem is that everybody is accustomed to having all this information atm. But imo gameplay alone should be enough to watch the game. Show both povs, maybe supply and everything else is told by actual gameplay on screen. the game is exciting enough as it is. I don't see why you need to hide information to artificially create hype The point is that the game should be enjoyable and tell ts narrative with the least information reasonably possible. I can totally understand that you want mass information for learning purposes, but that can be done after the game played out as well. The truth is that the more information you have, the less you actually need to watch the game which is bad. There are no replays released for any Korean event. Can't learn without VODs that have the info. Also if having the information means that you don't need to watch the game, then the gameplay probably wasn't good enough to warrant your attention to begin with. Just admit that you want to ruin everyone's shitposting quota by making them pay more attention to the game. Not necessarily talking about replays, you can show all the relevant information after the games are done in an analysis section or something. People get really defensive about this though, don't worry i don't care that much about it, but i can definitely see where the idea of showing less information is coming from. It's actually logical and makes sense. You realize they're probably not doing it on purpose, they just misplaced their logo to accidently cover up one of the player's worker numbers. You realize i never said otherwise? Obviously we are talking about the concept of showing less information in general and no this didn't come up because of this error, cmon guys wtf -.-
Another fun thing we could do would be to secret make a deal to reply to anything Viper says with the most illogical response imaginable and then wait for him to finally have enough.
Again, this is definitely not something we are doing right now, no way.
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On August 10 2016 22:00 MLuneth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 21:58 KOtical wrote:On August 10 2016 21:53 gobbledydook wrote:
meditanks are awful to watch.
please remove them already. can agree, boring to watch and play... i really miss the old tvt. Please no, old TvT was super overrated new TvT is so much better
I will have to disagree. Tankivacs have completely destroyed the stability and any semblance of strategy left in the matchup
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On August 10 2016 22:00 MLuneth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 21:58 KOtical wrote:On August 10 2016 21:53 gobbledydook wrote:
meditanks are awful to watch.
please remove them already. can agree, boring to watch and play... i really miss the old tvt. Please no, old TvT was super overrated new TvT is so much better
so you want to say ... you enjoy these games where the players are poking around for 10 minutes waiting for the opportunity to boost their tanks in the right spot and then the game gets decided in 2 seconds...?
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Elentos
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On August 10 2016 22:00 Vanadiel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 21:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 10 2016 21:53 gobbledydook wrote:
meditanks are awful to watch.
please remove them already. I hope that's in the plans for this week balance test map, with adept shade cooldown and ultra armor Yeah it would be fairly reasonable, either a shade cooldown or something like giving HP to the shades and we kill it it cancel the spell. As for tank, I just hope that by nerfing tankivacs they aren't going to buff tanks attack, I'd really prefer not going back to all the mech tank boring stuffs (to me). 
So you want them to lower the defensive and offensive potential of tanks with nothing done to make tanks better in return.
Why would you then ever make tanks outside of TvT?
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can I buy myself into heaven with you?
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Cricketer12
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On August 10 2016 22:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:a literal god
And a Pashunlord to boot....
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On August 10 2016 22:02 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 21:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 10 2016 21:56 shabby wrote:On August 10 2016 21:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 10 2016 21:47 Elentos wrote:On August 10 2016 21:45 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 10 2016 21:41 Charoisaur wrote:On August 10 2016 21:40 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 10 2016 21:37 Elentos wrote:On August 10 2016 21:36 The_Red_Viper wrote:[quote] Meh i actually agree with him on that I think it's really fake and if you can't make a decent story with the information on screen you're not doing a great job casting The problem is that everybody is accustomed to having all this information atm. But imo gameplay alone should be enough to watch the game. Show both povs, maybe supply and everything else is told by actual gameplay on screen. the game is exciting enough as it is. I don't see why you need to hide information to artificially create hype The point is that the game should be enjoyable and tell ts narrative with the least information reasonably possible. I can totally understand that you want mass information for learning purposes, but that can be done after the game played out as well. The truth is that the more information you have, the less you actually need to watch the game which is bad. There are no replays released for any Korean event. Can't learn without VODs that have the info. Also if having the information means that you don't need to watch the game, then the gameplay probably wasn't good enough to warrant your attention to begin with. Just admit that you want to ruin everyone's shitposting quota by making them pay more attention to the game. Not necessarily talking about replays, you can show all the relevant information after the games are done in an analysis section or something. People get really defensive about this though, don't worry i don't care that much about it, but i can definitely see where the idea of showing less information is coming from. It's actually logical and makes sense. You realize they're probably not doing it on purpose, they just misplaced their logo to accidently cover up one of the player's worker numbers. You realize i never said otherwise? Obviously we are talking about the concept of showing less information in general and no this didn't come up because of this error, cmon guys wtf -.- Another fun thing we could do would be to secret make a deal to reply to anything Viper says with the most illogical response imaginable and then wait for him to finally have enough. Again, this is definitely not something we are doing right now, no way.
No need to make secret deals. There's always someone who does it genuinely.
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On August 10 2016 22:03 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 22:00 Vanadiel wrote:On August 10 2016 21:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 10 2016 21:53 gobbledydook wrote:
meditanks are awful to watch.
please remove them already. I hope that's in the plans for this week balance test map, with adept shade cooldown and ultra armor Yeah it would be fairly reasonable, either a shade cooldown or something like giving HP to the shades and we kill it it cancel the spell. As for tank, I just hope that by nerfing tankivacs they aren't going to buff tanks attack, I'd really prefer not going back to all the mech tank boring stuffs (to me). So you want them to lower the defensive and offensive potential of tanks with nothing done to make tanks better in return. Why would you then ever make tanks outside of TvT?
being able to pick them up in siege mode but dropping them in normal mode would be fair I think. Give a slight buff if needed afterwards.
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On August 10 2016 22:02 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 21:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 10 2016 21:56 shabby wrote:On August 10 2016 21:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 10 2016 21:47 Elentos wrote:On August 10 2016 21:45 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 10 2016 21:41 Charoisaur wrote:On August 10 2016 21:40 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 10 2016 21:37 Elentos wrote:On August 10 2016 21:36 The_Red_Viper wrote:[quote] Meh i actually agree with him on that I think it's really fake and if you can't make a decent story with the information on screen you're not doing a great job casting The problem is that everybody is accustomed to having all this information atm. But imo gameplay alone should be enough to watch the game. Show both povs, maybe supply and everything else is told by actual gameplay on screen. the game is exciting enough as it is. I don't see why you need to hide information to artificially create hype The point is that the game should be enjoyable and tell ts narrative with the least information reasonably possible. I can totally understand that you want mass information for learning purposes, but that can be done after the game played out as well. The truth is that the more information you have, the less you actually need to watch the game which is bad. There are no replays released for any Korean event. Can't learn without VODs that have the info. Also if having the information means that you don't need to watch the game, then the gameplay probably wasn't good enough to warrant your attention to begin with. Just admit that you want to ruin everyone's shitposting quota by making them pay more attention to the game. Not necessarily talking about replays, you can show all the relevant information after the games are done in an analysis section or something. People get really defensive about this though, don't worry i don't care that much about it, but i can definitely see where the idea of showing less information is coming from. It's actually logical and makes sense. You realize they're probably not doing it on purpose, they just misplaced their logo to accidently cover up one of the player's worker numbers. You realize i never said otherwise? Obviously we are talking about the concept of showing less information in general and no this didn't come up because of this error, cmon guys wtf -.- Another fun thing we could do would be to secret make a deal to reply to anything Viper says with the most illogical response imaginable and then wait for him to finally have enough. Again, this is definitely not something we are doing right now, no way.
Haha i won't leave this community just because there are people i heavily disagree with Nice try though
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On August 10 2016 22:00 Vanadiel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 21:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 10 2016 21:53 gobbledydook wrote:
meditanks are awful to watch.
please remove them already. I hope that's in the plans for this week balance test map, with adept shade cooldown and ultra armor Yeah it would be fairly reasonable, either a shade cooldown or something like giving HP to the shades and we kill it it cancel the spell. As for tank, I just hope that by nerfing tankivacs they aren't going to buff tanks attack, I'd really prefer not going back to all the mech tank boring stuffs (to me).
I'm pretty sure you only think mech is boring because of HotS style skyterran turtle and not because of tanks.
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Elentos
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On August 10 2016 22:02 EatingBomber wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 22:00 MLuneth wrote:On August 10 2016 21:58 KOtical wrote:On August 10 2016 21:53 gobbledydook wrote:
meditanks are awful to watch.
please remove them already. can agree, boring to watch and play... i really miss the old tvt. Please no, old TvT was super overrated new TvT is so much better I will have to disagree. Tankivacs have completely destroyed the stability and any semblance of strategy left in the matchup
At least at the end of the day the better player still wins basically every time.
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On August 10 2016 22:04 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 22:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 10 2016 22:01 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 10 2016 21:56 Penev wrote:On August 10 2016 21:54 Cricketer12 wrote:
I AM THE GOD OF LIQUIBET you actually bet herO Ryung? i actually predicted every match 100% a literal god And a Pashunlord to boot....
I did bet Ryung and I'm quite proud of that one because I did have a feeling he would make something happen. I did believe too much in Zest though.
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On August 10 2016 22:05 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 22:02 EatingBomber wrote:On August 10 2016 22:00 MLuneth wrote:On August 10 2016 21:58 KOtical wrote:On August 10 2016 21:53 gobbledydook wrote:
meditanks are awful to watch.
please remove them already. can agree, boring to watch and play... i really miss the old tvt. Please no, old TvT was super overrated new TvT is so much better I will have to disagree. Tankivacs have completely destroyed the stability and any semblance of strategy left in the matchup At least at the end of the day the better player still wins basically every time.
but TaeJa lost..
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