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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
March 05 2016 14:27 GMT
#1021
Poll: Who wins the Grand Final?

Polt! (19)
 
56%

Snute! (15)
 
44%

34 total votes

Your vote: Who wins the Grand Final?

(Vote): Polt!
(Vote): Snute!

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
March 05 2016 14:27 GMT
#1022
On March 05 2016 23:26 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 23:25 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:23 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:21 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:18 Thax wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:13 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:12 Thax wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:10 Tee1990 wrote:
whats the big deal with 'foreigners' beating 'koreaners?' Dont polt and Hydra get the same type of practice environment as everyone else in wcs ? Or are they super natural because they are koreans?


Years of training and experience just doesn't disappear because you suddenly play on a different server.

It would certainly lead to a marked decline


Yes, but you still have that head start, which as is being demonstrated over and over again, is rather significant.

The gap is only significant at the beginning. After that, mechanics, followed by strategic cleverness, display a marked decline. The mechanics of Hydra, Polt, and viOlet are very similar to those of the foreigners.

Why are you watching if you think those guys are rubbish ?

Where did I say these guys were rubbish?

compared to Koreans I guess, but still, we don't need to be reminded every time how 100000 times worse than the Koreans those guys are. Respect their practice and their work.

I wasn't reminding anyone of the difference; Blizzcon will do that for me. My point is that the Koreans in the WCS Circuit are not very good, and should not be regarded as 'monsters' or 'powerhouses', etc

I think Blizzcon on the contrary will show that the gap between Koreans powerhouses and guys like Polt isn't so huge, as it does every year (I'm fed up to bring up those everytime, but Polt vs Rain, Polt vs Classic, Hydra vs Dream, etc)

Well, that seems to be EatingBomber's official TL writer prediction for Blizzcon, so you're probably right.

Although Rain and Dream were very weak at Blizzcon tbh.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
DinosaurPoop
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
687 Posts
March 05 2016 14:28 GMT
#1023
The timeless terran, Snute.
When cats speak, mice listen.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
March 05 2016 14:29 GMT
#1024
On March 05 2016 23:26 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 23:25 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:23 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:21 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:18 Thax wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:13 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:12 Thax wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:10 Tee1990 wrote:
whats the big deal with 'foreigners' beating 'koreaners?' Dont polt and Hydra get the same type of practice environment as everyone else in wcs ? Or are they super natural because they are koreans?


Years of training and experience just doesn't disappear because you suddenly play on a different server.

It would certainly lead to a marked decline


Yes, but you still have that head start, which as is being demonstrated over and over again, is rather significant.

The gap is only significant at the beginning. After that, mechanics, followed by strategic cleverness, display a marked decline. The mechanics of Hydra, Polt, and viOlet are very similar to those of the foreigners.

Why are you watching if you think those guys are rubbish ?

Where did I say these guys were rubbish?

compared to Koreans I guess, but still, we don't need to be reminded every time how 100000 times worse than the Koreans those guys are. Respect their practice and their work.

I wasn't reminding anyone of the difference; Blizzcon will do that for me. My point is that the Koreans in the WCS Circuit are not very good, and should not be regarded as 'monsters' or 'powerhouses', etc

I think Blizzcon on the contrary will show that the gap between Koreans powerhouses and guys like Polt isn't so huge, as it does every year (I'm fed up to bring up those everytime, but Polt vs Rain, Polt vs Classic, Hydra vs Dream, etc)

That depends on the guys. So far, it is good, it seems that 2 of the 8 foreigners at BlizzCon will be Snute and Polt, this is a great beginning. Even if the stupid welfare system was not in place, these two would have an enormous chance to get them e.g. under the WCS2015 rules. So so far, we can be pretty happy.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
March 05 2016 14:29 GMT
#1025
On March 05 2016 23:26 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 23:25 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:23 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:21 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:18 Thax wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:13 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:12 Thax wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:10 Tee1990 wrote:
whats the big deal with 'foreigners' beating 'koreaners?' Dont polt and Hydra get the same type of practice environment as everyone else in wcs ? Or are they super natural because they are koreans?


Years of training and experience just doesn't disappear because you suddenly play on a different server.

It would certainly lead to a marked decline


Yes, but you still have that head start, which as is being demonstrated over and over again, is rather significant.

The gap is only significant at the beginning. After that, mechanics, followed by strategic cleverness, display a marked decline. The mechanics of Hydra, Polt, and viOlet are very similar to those of the foreigners.

Why are you watching if you think those guys are rubbish ?

Where did I say these guys were rubbish?

compared to Koreans I guess, but still, we don't need to be reminded every time how 100000 times worse than the Koreans those guys are. Respect their practice and their work.

I wasn't reminding anyone of the difference; Blizzcon will do that for me. My point is that the Koreans in the WCS Circuit are not very good, and should not be regarded as 'monsters' or 'powerhouses', etc

I think Blizzcon on the contrary will show that the gap between Koreans powerhouses and guys like Polt isn't so huge, as it does every year (I'm fed up to bring up those everytime, but Polt vs Rain, Polt vs Classic, Hydra vs Dream, etc)

Yea, Polt going up against a GLS winner from that year each year and almost winning, sure proves how much he sucks.
EatingBomber
Profile Joined August 2015
1017 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-05 14:30:37
March 05 2016 14:29 GMT
#1026
On March 05 2016 23:27 Soularion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 23:25 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:23 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:21 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:18 Thax wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:13 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:12 Thax wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:10 Tee1990 wrote:
whats the big deal with 'foreigners' beating 'koreaners?' Dont polt and Hydra get the same type of practice environment as everyone else in wcs ? Or are they super natural because they are koreans?


Years of training and experience just doesn't disappear because you suddenly play on a different server.

It would certainly lead to a marked decline


Yes, but you still have that head start, which as is being demonstrated over and over again, is rather significant.

The gap is only significant at the beginning. After that, mechanics, followed by strategic cleverness, display a marked decline. The mechanics of Hydra, Polt, and viOlet are very similar to those of the foreigners.

Why are you watching if you think those guys are rubbish ?

Where did I say these guys were rubbish?

compared to Koreans I guess, but still, we don't need to be reminded every time how 100000 times worse than the Koreans those guys are. Respect their practice and their work.

I wasn't reminding anyone of the difference; Blizzcon will do that for me. My point is that the Koreans in the WCS Circuit are not very good, and should not be regarded as 'monsters' or 'powerhouses', etc

IEM Cologne.
Hydra's Ro8 at Blizzcon.
Hydra's 2-0 lead against Zest at Zest's victory in IEM WC.
Hydra and Polt are monsters. Sure, other players are fucking gods, but don't lie and say they aren't great because that reduces the 'great players' of this game to.. what, not even a dozen people? Nah.

Yes yes yes, continue to point out anomalies in performance and ignore the nature of these players' games themselves ie. constant supply blocks and other mechanical errors, constantly dropping maps/sets to foreigners, and the other unpleasant facts which expose how weak these Koreans actually are... please. The only time Hydra ever made Code S was... 2014? When was viOlet last relevant?

As far as I can tell, only Polt is good enough to stand against Korean Koreans consistently.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
March 05 2016 14:29 GMT
#1027
Polt can choose when he peaks? Indeed a fine talent to have.

*insert Maynarde's confidence face*

Ladies.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
March 05 2016 14:29 GMT
#1028
On March 05 2016 23:28 DinosaurPoop wrote:
The timeless terran, Snute.

ikr. his terran play is so good
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
March 05 2016 14:31 GMT
#1029
On March 05 2016 23:27 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 23:26 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:25 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:23 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:21 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:18 Thax wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:13 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:12 Thax wrote:
[quote]

Years of training and experience just doesn't disappear because you suddenly play on a different server.

It would certainly lead to a marked decline


Yes, but you still have that head start, which as is being demonstrated over and over again, is rather significant.

The gap is only significant at the beginning. After that, mechanics, followed by strategic cleverness, display a marked decline. The mechanics of Hydra, Polt, and viOlet are very similar to those of the foreigners.

Why are you watching if you think those guys are rubbish ?

Where did I say these guys were rubbish?

compared to Koreans I guess, but still, we don't need to be reminded every time how 100000 times worse than the Koreans those guys are. Respect their practice and their work.

I wasn't reminding anyone of the difference; Blizzcon will do that for me. My point is that the Koreans in the WCS Circuit are not very good, and should not be regarded as 'monsters' or 'powerhouses', etc

I think Blizzcon on the contrary will show that the gap between Koreans powerhouses and guys like Polt isn't so huge, as it does every year (I'm fed up to bring up those everytime, but Polt vs Rain, Polt vs Classic, Hydra vs Dream, etc)

Well, that seems to be EatingBomber's official TL writer prediction for Blizzcon, so you're probably right.

Although Rain and Dream were very weak at Blizzcon tbh.

They were, but when Dream made two SSL finals and Rain won GSL who would have said "those guys will have tough times against WCS players, one of them will even lose ?". No one. We need to be aware of how truly good the best players of the WCS circuit are. I definitely think the gap between PiG or PiLiPiLi and I don't know Journey or Losira is lightyears big, but the gap between Polt/Hydra/Snute etc and I don't know Zest is big, but not as big as many people seem to think.
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
March 05 2016 14:31 GMT
#1030
On March 05 2016 23:29 EatingBomber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 23:27 Soularion wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:25 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:23 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:21 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:18 Thax wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:13 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:12 Thax wrote:
[quote]

Years of training and experience just doesn't disappear because you suddenly play on a different server.

It would certainly lead to a marked decline


Yes, but you still have that head start, which as is being demonstrated over and over again, is rather significant.

The gap is only significant at the beginning. After that, mechanics, followed by strategic cleverness, display a marked decline. The mechanics of Hydra, Polt, and viOlet are very similar to those of the foreigners.

Why are you watching if you think those guys are rubbish ?

Where did I say these guys were rubbish?

compared to Koreans I guess, but still, we don't need to be reminded every time how 100000 times worse than the Koreans those guys are. Respect their practice and their work.

I wasn't reminding anyone of the difference; Blizzcon will do that for me. My point is that the Koreans in the WCS Circuit are not very good, and should not be regarded as 'monsters' or 'powerhouses', etc

IEM Cologne.
Hydra's Ro8 at Blizzcon.
Hydra's 2-0 lead against Zest at Zest's victory in IEM WC.
Hydra and Polt are monsters. Sure, other players are fucking gods, but don't lie and say they aren't great because that reduces the 'great players' of this game to.. what, not even a dozen people? Nah.

Yes yes yes, continue to point out anomalies in performance and ignore the nature of these players' games themselves ie. constant supply blocks and other mechanical errors, constantly dropping maps/sets to foreigners, and the other unpleasant facts which expose how weak these Koreans actually are... please.

lol. those "anomalies in performance" are just the results when Polt/Hydra go up against your putative superhuman gods of Kespa. As you can see, they aren't so bad, to say the least.
BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
March 05 2016 14:31 GMT
#1031
I don't think I've seen TL so trashy ever since the WCS change. Can't we just watch some Starcraft? We got a great match up for a final on a brand new game. I'm excited
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
March 05 2016 14:32 GMT
#1032
On March 05 2016 23:31 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 23:27 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:26 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:25 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:23 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:21 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:18 Thax wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:13 EatingBomber wrote:
[quote]
It would certainly lead to a marked decline


Yes, but you still have that head start, which as is being demonstrated over and over again, is rather significant.

The gap is only significant at the beginning. After that, mechanics, followed by strategic cleverness, display a marked decline. The mechanics of Hydra, Polt, and viOlet are very similar to those of the foreigners.

Why are you watching if you think those guys are rubbish ?

Where did I say these guys were rubbish?

compared to Koreans I guess, but still, we don't need to be reminded every time how 100000 times worse than the Koreans those guys are. Respect their practice and their work.

I wasn't reminding anyone of the difference; Blizzcon will do that for me. My point is that the Koreans in the WCS Circuit are not very good, and should not be regarded as 'monsters' or 'powerhouses', etc

I think Blizzcon on the contrary will show that the gap between Koreans powerhouses and guys like Polt isn't so huge, as it does every year (I'm fed up to bring up those everytime, but Polt vs Rain, Polt vs Classic, Hydra vs Dream, etc)

Well, that seems to be EatingBomber's official TL writer prediction for Blizzcon, so you're probably right.

Although Rain and Dream were very weak at Blizzcon tbh.

They were, but when Dream made two SSL finals and Rain won GSL who would have said "those guys will have tough times against WCS players, one of them will even lose ?". No one. We need to be aware of how truly good the best players of the WCS circuit are. I definitely think the gap between PiG or PiLiPiLi and I don't know Journey or Losira is lightyears big, but the gap between Polt/Hydra/Snute etc and I don't know Zest is big, but not as big as many people seem to think.

I dunno atm the gap between Zest and most of Korea seems pretty huge
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
March 05 2016 14:33 GMT
#1033
On March 05 2016 23:31 BretZ wrote:
I don't think I've seen TL so trashy ever since the WCS change. Can't we just watch some Starcraft? We got a great match up for a final on a brand new game. I'm excited

Yeah let the games begin and let's forget about the wannabe killjoys
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
March 05 2016 14:34 GMT
#1034
On March 05 2016 23:29 Thax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 23:26 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:25 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:23 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:21 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:18 Thax wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:13 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:12 Thax wrote:
[quote]

Years of training and experience just doesn't disappear because you suddenly play on a different server.

It would certainly lead to a marked decline


Yes, but you still have that head start, which as is being demonstrated over and over again, is rather significant.

The gap is only significant at the beginning. After that, mechanics, followed by strategic cleverness, display a marked decline. The mechanics of Hydra, Polt, and viOlet are very similar to those of the foreigners.

Why are you watching if you think those guys are rubbish ?

Where did I say these guys were rubbish?

compared to Koreans I guess, but still, we don't need to be reminded every time how 100000 times worse than the Koreans those guys are. Respect their practice and their work.

I wasn't reminding anyone of the difference; Blizzcon will do that for me. My point is that the Koreans in the WCS Circuit are not very good, and should not be regarded as 'monsters' or 'powerhouses', etc

I think Blizzcon on the contrary will show that the gap between Koreans powerhouses and guys like Polt isn't so huge, as it does every year (I'm fed up to bring up those everytime, but Polt vs Rain, Polt vs Classic, Hydra vs Dream, etc)

Yea, Polt going up against a GLS winner from that year each year and almost winning, sure proves how much he sucks.

He was one pixel off from beating rain T_T
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2722 Posts
March 05 2016 14:34 GMT
#1035
On March 05 2016 23:31 BretZ wrote:
I don't think I've seen TL so trashy ever since the WCS change. Can't we just watch some Starcraft? We got a great match up for a final on a brand new game. I'm excited

it's always been pretty trashy. Just think why there's so much moderation on TL.
very illegal and very uncool
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
March 05 2016 14:34 GMT
#1036
On March 05 2016 23:31 BretZ wrote:
I don't think I've seen TL so trashy ever since the WCS change. Can't we just watch some Starcraft? We got a great match up for a final on a brand new game. I'm excited

I would watch some Starcraft but there's no game going ._.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1962 Posts
March 05 2016 14:34 GMT
#1037
On March 05 2016 23:27 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 23:26 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:25 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:23 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:21 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:18 Thax wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:13 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:12 Thax wrote:
[quote]

Years of training and experience just doesn't disappear because you suddenly play on a different server.

It would certainly lead to a marked decline


Yes, but you still have that head start, which as is being demonstrated over and over again, is rather significant.

The gap is only significant at the beginning. After that, mechanics, followed by strategic cleverness, display a marked decline. The mechanics of Hydra, Polt, and viOlet are very similar to those of the foreigners.

Why are you watching if you think those guys are rubbish ?

Where did I say these guys were rubbish?

compared to Koreans I guess, but still, we don't need to be reminded every time how 100000 times worse than the Koreans those guys are. Respect their practice and their work.

I wasn't reminding anyone of the difference; Blizzcon will do that for me. My point is that the Koreans in the WCS Circuit are not very good, and should not be regarded as 'monsters' or 'powerhouses', etc

I think Blizzcon on the contrary will show that the gap between Koreans powerhouses and guys like Polt isn't so huge, as it does every year (I'm fed up to bring up those everytime, but Polt vs Rain, Polt vs Classic, Hydra vs Dream, etc)

People don't realize that kespa boys aren't that good in week-end style tourneys


While I agree that Korean leagues differ substantially from western tournaments in terms of preparation, it's a still pretty inaccurate guess to label all "kespa boys" as incapable of performing well in a weekend-format tournament -> if you like to do some research, look up IEM or Dreamhack tournament history for the last 5 years.
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
March 05 2016 14:34 GMT
#1038
On March 05 2016 23:32 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 23:31 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:27 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:26 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:25 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:23 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:21 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:18 Thax wrote:
[quote]

Yes, but you still have that head start, which as is being demonstrated over and over again, is rather significant.

The gap is only significant at the beginning. After that, mechanics, followed by strategic cleverness, display a marked decline. The mechanics of Hydra, Polt, and viOlet are very similar to those of the foreigners.

Why are you watching if you think those guys are rubbish ?

Where did I say these guys were rubbish?

compared to Koreans I guess, but still, we don't need to be reminded every time how 100000 times worse than the Koreans those guys are. Respect their practice and their work.

I wasn't reminding anyone of the difference; Blizzcon will do that for me. My point is that the Koreans in the WCS Circuit are not very good, and should not be regarded as 'monsters' or 'powerhouses', etc

I think Blizzcon on the contrary will show that the gap between Koreans powerhouses and guys like Polt isn't so huge, as it does every year (I'm fed up to bring up those everytime, but Polt vs Rain, Polt vs Classic, Hydra vs Dream, etc)

Well, that seems to be EatingBomber's official TL writer prediction for Blizzcon, so you're probably right.

Although Rain and Dream were very weak at Blizzcon tbh.

They were, but when Dream made two SSL finals and Rain won GSL who would have said "those guys will have tough times against WCS players, one of them will even lose ?". No one. We need to be aware of how truly good the best players of the WCS circuit are. I definitely think the gap between PiG or PiLiPiLi and I don't know Journey or Losira is lightyears big, but the gap between Polt/Hydra/Snute etc and I don't know Zest is big, but not as big as many people seem to think.

I dunno atm the gap between Zest and most of Korea seems pretty huge

ha ha yeah I probably shouldn't have picked him but a lesser very good Korean that will make Blizzcon. Although Zest is known to have huge variations in his level, like when he got bopped by INnoVation in Blizzcon he looked awful.
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
March 05 2016 14:34 GMT
#1039
On March 05 2016 23:31 BretZ wrote:
I don't think I've seen TL so trashy ever since the WCS change. Can't we just watch some Starcraft? We got a great match up for a final on a brand new game. I'm excited

Everyone's gonna leave this topic when the games start, don't worry
Writermaru pls
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Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
March 05 2016 14:34 GMT
#1040
On March 05 2016 23:34 royalroadweed wrote:
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On March 05 2016 23:29 Thax wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:26 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:25 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:23 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:21 EatingBomber wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:18 Thax wrote:
On March 05 2016 23:13 EatingBomber wrote:
[quote]
It would certainly lead to a marked decline


Yes, but you still have that head start, which as is being demonstrated over and over again, is rather significant.

The gap is only significant at the beginning. After that, mechanics, followed by strategic cleverness, display a marked decline. The mechanics of Hydra, Polt, and viOlet are very similar to those of the foreigners.

Why are you watching if you think those guys are rubbish ?

Where did I say these guys were rubbish?

compared to Koreans I guess, but still, we don't need to be reminded every time how 100000 times worse than the Koreans those guys are. Respect their practice and their work.

I wasn't reminding anyone of the difference; Blizzcon will do that for me. My point is that the Koreans in the WCS Circuit are not very good, and should not be regarded as 'monsters' or 'powerhouses', etc

I think Blizzcon on the contrary will show that the gap between Koreans powerhouses and guys like Polt isn't so huge, as it does every year (I'm fed up to bring up those everytime, but Polt vs Rain, Polt vs Classic, Hydra vs Dream, etc)

Yea, Polt going up against a GLS winner from that year each year and almost winning, sure proves how much he sucks.

He was one pixel off from beating rain T_T

As much as I love Rain that last game made me sooooooo sad
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