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Demuslim needs to shut up about the whole Major copying Koreans down to a teeth. YES he likes to study korean build orders, but his mid/late game is not comparable to any top koreans at all.
Also how do you predict Major to win when Snute has had an insane TvZ?
Also was Brendan the only player who actually researched Snute's TvZ style?
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On March 03 2016 05:33 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 05:31 Sif_ wrote:On March 03 2016 05:26 Soularion wrote:On March 03 2016 05:25 Sif_ wrote:
major #30 pls explain how he isn't somewhere in the low 20s to high 30s ptitdrogo #3 polt #5 come to think of it, was the PR seeded randomly like the iem bracket? lol did they really put Major in 30? he's clearly better than Lambo, Serral, Firecake, Pilipili, Huk, Pig, Puck, Masa, Harstem, Kelthuzad, Neeb and Elazer and probably better than Mana and Bunny as well tbh.
The issue with MajOr is that some people rank him using his actual perceived skill, perceived through tournament results, while others rank him using his potential skill, which I guess is pretty high.
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On March 03 2016 05:35 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 05:33 Schelim wrote:On March 03 2016 05:31 Sif_ wrote:On March 03 2016 05:26 Soularion wrote:On March 03 2016 05:25 Sif_ wrote:
major #30 pls explain how he isn't somewhere in the low 20s to high 30s ptitdrogo #3 polt #5 come to think of it, was the PR seeded randomly like the iem bracket? lol did they really put Major in 30? he's clearly better than Lambo, Serral, Firecake, Pilipili, Huk, Pig, Puck, Masa, Harstem, Kelthuzad, Neeb and Elazer and probably better than Mana and Bunny as well tbh. rofl Major isn't even close to Elazer/FireCake/Serral
well keep in mind i'm talking completely out of my HotS ass as i don't have a real clue of what happened after that in the foreigner scene, hence my sig. but yeah, i generally tend to rank players by potential, not by average performance, so Major would have to be somewhere close to the top.
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On March 03 2016 05:36 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 05:35 Ej_ wrote:On March 03 2016 05:33 Schelim wrote:On March 03 2016 05:31 Sif_ wrote:On March 03 2016 05:26 Soularion wrote:On March 03 2016 05:25 Sif_ wrote:
major #30 pls explain how he isn't somewhere in the low 20s to high 30s ptitdrogo #3 polt #5 come to think of it, was the PR seeded randomly like the iem bracket? lol did they really put Major in 30? he's clearly better than Lambo, Serral, Firecake, Pilipili, Huk, Pig, Puck, Masa, Harstem, Kelthuzad, Neeb and Elazer and probably better than Mana and Bunny as well tbh. rofl Major isn't even close to Elazer/FireCake/Serral well keep in mind i'm talking completely out of my HotS ass as i don't have a real clue of what happened after that in the foreigner scene, hence my sig. but yeah, i generally tend to rank players by potential, not by average performance, so Major would have to be somewhere close to the top.
so i guess demuslim is in your top 5 of all time then?
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On March 03 2016 05:36 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 05:35 Ej_ wrote:On March 03 2016 05:33 Schelim wrote:On March 03 2016 05:31 Sif_ wrote:On March 03 2016 05:26 Soularion wrote:On March 03 2016 05:25 Sif_ wrote:
major #30 pls explain how he isn't somewhere in the low 20s to high 30s ptitdrogo #3 polt #5 come to think of it, was the PR seeded randomly like the iem bracket? lol did they really put Major in 30? he's clearly better than Lambo, Serral, Firecake, Pilipili, Huk, Pig, Puck, Masa, Harstem, Kelthuzad, Neeb and Elazer and probably better than Mana and Bunny as well tbh. rofl Major isn't even close to Elazer/FireCake/Serral well keep in mind i'm talking completely out of my HotS ass as i don't have a real clue of what happened after that in the foreigner scene, hence my sig. but yeah, i generally tend to rank players by potential, not by average performance, so Major would have to be somewhere close to the top.
the ranking was definitely done with current form in mind with some exceptions, it's quite coherent
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France13022 Posts
On March 03 2016 05:33 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 05:31 Sif_ wrote:On March 03 2016 05:26 Soularion wrote:On March 03 2016 05:25 Sif_ wrote:
major #30 pls explain how he isn't somewhere in the low 20s to high 30s ptitdrogo #3 polt #5 come to think of it, was the PR seeded randomly like the iem bracket? lol did they really put Major in 30? he's clearly better than Lambo, Serral, Firecake, Pilipili, Huk, Pig, Puck, Masa, Harstem, Kelthuzad, Neeb and Elazer and probably better than Mana and Bunny as well tbh.
He isn't even top 1 in copa america, Neeb is far better, Serral probably as well, FireCake not even funny since the guy is... French!! Lambo/Elazer and HuK it's arguable
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On March 03 2016 05:36 Hider wrote:
Demuslim needs to shut up about the whole Major copying Koreans down to a teeth. YES he likes to study korean build orders, but his mid/late game is not comparable to any top koreans at all.
Also which pro player doesn't study korean builds lol
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On March 03 2016 05:37 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 05:36 Hider wrote:
Demuslim needs to shut up about the whole Major copying Koreans down to a teeth. YES he likes to study korean build orders, but his mid/late game is not comparable to any top koreans at all. Also which pro player doesn't study korean builds lol
Has
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Canada2764 Posts
On March 03 2016 05:36 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 05:35 Ej_ wrote:On March 03 2016 05:33 Schelim wrote:On March 03 2016 05:31 Sif_ wrote:On March 03 2016 05:26 Soularion wrote:On March 03 2016 05:25 Sif_ wrote:
major #30 pls explain how he isn't somewhere in the low 20s to high 30s ptitdrogo #3 polt #5 come to think of it, was the PR seeded randomly like the iem bracket? lol did they really put Major in 30? he's clearly better than Lambo, Serral, Firecake, Pilipili, Huk, Pig, Puck, Masa, Harstem, Kelthuzad, Neeb and Elazer and probably better than Mana and Bunny as well tbh. rofl Major isn't even close to Elazer/FireCake/Serral well keep in mind i'm talking completely out of my HotS ass as i don't have a real clue of what happened after that in the foreigner scene, hence my sig. but yeah, i generally tend to rank players by potential, not by average performance, so Major would have to be somewhere close to the top.
The power rank was almost entirely based on their LotV results, of which MajOr has very little. He struggled in Copa America, and his qualification came with a couple of sloppy sets which made me think he had promise (which I noted in my writing) but because of his repeated failures in WCS last year I was cautious and placed him low. He's performed well today, so he ends up looking underrated, but that reasoning is completely logical and is not contradicted by the reality we have observed.
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Mute City2363 Posts
On March 03 2016 05:38 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 05:37 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:On March 03 2016 05:36 Hider wrote:
Demuslim needs to shut up about the whole Major copying Koreans down to a teeth. YES he likes to study korean build orders, but his mid/late game is not comparable to any top koreans at all. Also which pro player doesn't study korean builds lol Has
Has does, he just does it to beat them
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On March 03 2016 05:32 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 05:31 Sif_ wrote:On March 03 2016 05:26 Soularion wrote:On March 03 2016 05:25 Sif_ wrote:
major #30 pls explain how he isn't somewhere in the low 20s to high 30s ptitdrogo #3 polt #5 come to think of it, was the PR seeded randomly like the iem bracket? You're being a bitch about that, there are legit justifications in the PR
drogo would only be #3 on copa america. theres no other way around it
major was top3~10 at the EU ladder during the race btw
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This game is starting to feel like G1 again. I guess Snute is in a bit worse of a spot now.
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On March 03 2016 05:38 Soularion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 05:36 Schelim wrote:On March 03 2016 05:35 Ej_ wrote:On March 03 2016 05:33 Schelim wrote:On March 03 2016 05:31 Sif_ wrote:On March 03 2016 05:26 Soularion wrote:On March 03 2016 05:25 Sif_ wrote:
major #30 pls explain how he isn't somewhere in the low 20s to high 30s ptitdrogo #3 polt #5 come to think of it, was the PR seeded randomly like the iem bracket? lol did they really put Major in 30? he's clearly better than Lambo, Serral, Firecake, Pilipili, Huk, Pig, Puck, Masa, Harstem, Kelthuzad, Neeb and Elazer and probably better than Mana and Bunny as well tbh. rofl Major isn't even close to Elazer/FireCake/Serral well keep in mind i'm talking completely out of my HotS ass as i don't have a real clue of what happened after that in the foreigner scene, hence my sig. but yeah, i generally tend to rank players by potential, not by average performance, so Major would have to be somewhere close to the top. The power rank was almost entirely based on their LotV results, of which MajOr has very little. He struggled in Copa America, and his qualification came with a couple of sloppy sets which made me think he had promise (which I noted in my writing) but because of his repeated failures in WCS last year I was cautious and placed him low. He's performed well today, so he ends up looking underrated, but that reasoning is completely logical and is not contradicted by the reality we have observed.
I think people shitting on the PR should try doing their own and see if they don't look silly at some points 
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On March 03 2016 05:38 Soularion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 05:36 Schelim wrote:On March 03 2016 05:35 Ej_ wrote:On March 03 2016 05:33 Schelim wrote:On March 03 2016 05:31 Sif_ wrote:On March 03 2016 05:26 Soularion wrote:On March 03 2016 05:25 Sif_ wrote:
major #30 pls explain how he isn't somewhere in the low 20s to high 30s ptitdrogo #3 polt #5 come to think of it, was the PR seeded randomly like the iem bracket? lol did they really put Major in 30? he's clearly better than Lambo, Serral, Firecake, Pilipili, Huk, Pig, Puck, Masa, Harstem, Kelthuzad, Neeb and Elazer and probably better than Mana and Bunny as well tbh. rofl Major isn't even close to Elazer/FireCake/Serral well keep in mind i'm talking completely out of my HotS ass as i don't have a real clue of what happened after that in the foreigner scene, hence my sig. but yeah, i generally tend to rank players by potential, not by average performance, so Major would have to be somewhere close to the top. The power rank was almost entirely based on their LotV results, of which MajOr has very little. He struggled in Copa America, and his qualification came with a couple of sloppy sets which made me think he had promise (which I noted in my writing) but because of his repeated failures in WCS last year I was cautious and placed him low. He's performed well today, so he ends up looking underrated, but that reasoning is completely logical and is not contradicted by the reality we have observed.
yeah, fair enough. i don't even know what Copa America is. it just sounds very wrong to me that Major would be almost at the bottom in a tournament filled with foreigners but as i said, i have no idea wtf i'm talking about when it comes to sc2 scene nowadays. i can't put a face to about 5-10 names in this bracket.
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United States97277 Posts
nice! Masa won! NA NA NA NA!!!
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France13022 Posts
On March 03 2016 05:40 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 05:38 Soularion wrote:On March 03 2016 05:36 Schelim wrote:On March 03 2016 05:35 Ej_ wrote:On March 03 2016 05:33 Schelim wrote:On March 03 2016 05:31 Sif_ wrote:On March 03 2016 05:26 Soularion wrote:On March 03 2016 05:25 Sif_ wrote:
major #30 pls explain how he isn't somewhere in the low 20s to high 30s ptitdrogo #3 polt #5 come to think of it, was the PR seeded randomly like the iem bracket? lol did they really put Major in 30? he's clearly better than Lambo, Serral, Firecake, Pilipili, Huk, Pig, Puck, Masa, Harstem, Kelthuzad, Neeb and Elazer and probably better than Mana and Bunny as well tbh. rofl Major isn't even close to Elazer/FireCake/Serral well keep in mind i'm talking completely out of my HotS ass as i don't have a real clue of what happened after that in the foreigner scene, hence my sig. but yeah, i generally tend to rank players by potential, not by average performance, so Major would have to be somewhere close to the top. The power rank was almost entirely based on their LotV results, of which MajOr has very little. He struggled in Copa America, and his qualification came with a couple of sloppy sets which made me think he had promise (which I noted in my writing) but because of his repeated failures in WCS last year I was cautious and placed him low. He's performed well today, so he ends up looking underrated, but that reasoning is completely logical and is not contradicted by the reality we have observed. yeah, fair enough. i don't even know what Copa America is. it just sounds very wrong to me that Major would be almost at the bottom in a tournament filled with foreigners but as i said, i have no idea wtf i'm talking about when it comes to sc2 scene nowadays. i can't put a face to about 5-10 names in this bracket.
So don't talk shit xd
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Interesting faith in BLs from Snute, is that really common nowadays ? I thought everybody went for ultras and cracklings in ZvT.
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On March 03 2016 05:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Interesting faith in BLs from Snute, is that really common nowadays ? I thought everybody went for ultras and cracklings in ZvT.
going for BL in a meta where Terran's optimal lategame is ghost/liberator is... sub-optimal
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On March 03 2016 05:40 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 05:40 Schelim wrote:On March 03 2016 05:38 Soularion wrote:On March 03 2016 05:36 Schelim wrote:On March 03 2016 05:35 Ej_ wrote:On March 03 2016 05:33 Schelim wrote:On March 03 2016 05:31 Sif_ wrote:On March 03 2016 05:26 Soularion wrote:On March 03 2016 05:25 Sif_ wrote:
major #30 pls explain how he isn't somewhere in the low 20s to high 30s ptitdrogo #3 polt #5 come to think of it, was the PR seeded randomly like the iem bracket? lol did they really put Major in 30? he's clearly better than Lambo, Serral, Firecake, Pilipili, Huk, Pig, Puck, Masa, Harstem, Kelthuzad, Neeb and Elazer and probably better than Mana and Bunny as well tbh. rofl Major isn't even close to Elazer/FireCake/Serral well keep in mind i'm talking completely out of my HotS ass as i don't have a real clue of what happened after that in the foreigner scene, hence my sig. but yeah, i generally tend to rank players by potential, not by average performance, so Major would have to be somewhere close to the top. The power rank was almost entirely based on their LotV results, of which MajOr has very little. He struggled in Copa America, and his qualification came with a couple of sloppy sets which made me think he had promise (which I noted in my writing) but because of his repeated failures in WCS last year I was cautious and placed him low. He's performed well today, so he ends up looking underrated, but that reasoning is completely logical and is not contradicted by the reality we have observed. yeah, fair enough. i don't even know what Copa America is. it just sounds very wrong to me that Major would be almost at the bottom in a tournament filled with foreigners but as i said, i have no idea wtf i'm talking about when it comes to sc2 scene nowadays. i can't put a face to about 5-10 names in this bracket. So don't talk shit xd
lol give me a break i just wanted to stick up for my boy Juan 
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Mute City2363 Posts
On March 03 2016 05:39 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 05:38 Soularion wrote:On March 03 2016 05:36 Schelim wrote:On March 03 2016 05:35 Ej_ wrote:On March 03 2016 05:33 Schelim wrote:On March 03 2016 05:31 Sif_ wrote:On March 03 2016 05:26 Soularion wrote:On March 03 2016 05:25 Sif_ wrote:
major #30 pls explain how he isn't somewhere in the low 20s to high 30s ptitdrogo #3 polt #5 come to think of it, was the PR seeded randomly like the iem bracket? lol did they really put Major in 30? he's clearly better than Lambo, Serral, Firecake, Pilipili, Huk, Pig, Puck, Masa, Harstem, Kelthuzad, Neeb and Elazer and probably better than Mana and Bunny as well tbh. rofl Major isn't even close to Elazer/FireCake/Serral well keep in mind i'm talking completely out of my HotS ass as i don't have a real clue of what happened after that in the foreigner scene, hence my sig. but yeah, i generally tend to rank players by potential, not by average performance, so Major would have to be somewhere close to the top. The power rank was almost entirely based on their LotV results, of which MajOr has very little. He struggled in Copa America, and his qualification came with a couple of sloppy sets which made me think he had promise (which I noted in my writing) but because of his repeated failures in WCS last year I was cautious and placed him low. He's performed well today, so he ends up looking underrated, but that reasoning is completely logical and is not contradicted by the reality we have observed. I think people shitting on the PR should try doing their own and see if they don't look silly at some points
More importantly, realising that doing a PR before writing the games is harder than doing it after you know all the results
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