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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
March 02 2016 20:30 GMT
#1921
On March 03 2016 05:30 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2016 05:29 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 03 2016 05:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 03 2016 05:27 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 03 2016 05:24 DJHelium wrote:
Can anyone do tl;dw on Harstem vs Masa?

g1 : Harstem won, didn't see that one. Apparently a 2 base tank push failed badly.
g2 : this time the 2 base tank push does some damage (along with some liberator harass) to the quick 3 bases of Harstem. MaSa is behind most of the time but Harstem takes one dreadful engage and loses.
g3 : long macro game, harass in the beginning (WP adept for Harstem, widow mines for MaSa) does a lot of damage on both sides but it turns out far better for MaSa after two huge shots (18 probes killed in total). It goes on forever (blink adept templar vs liberators ghosts bio) and once range for libs is done Harstem has no answer (really late stargates).
g4 : 3 rax not even proxied won the game, can't believe this worked.


2 of the rax were proxied.

proxied near the 3rd of MaSa, that's more hidden than proxied

If it's 2rax proxy hard to scout, it's one of the best TvP cheeses that could work after the pylon / adept nerfs

yeah I guess. I never ran into it on ladder, maybe I'm wildly underestimating it.
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
March 02 2016 20:31 GMT
#1922
On March 03 2016 05:26 Soularion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2016 05:25 Sif_ wrote:
major #30

pls explain how he isn't somewhere in the low 20s to high 30s


ptitdrogo #3

polt #5

come to think of it, was the PR seeded randomly like the iem bracket?

OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 02 2016 20:31 GMT
#1923
So guys, were MLorD's games good?
Also NA finally won a series, I am god damn impressed
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
March 02 2016 20:31 GMT
#1924
On March 03 2016 05:29 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2016 05:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 03 2016 05:27 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 03 2016 05:24 DJHelium wrote:
Can anyone do tl;dw on Harstem vs Masa?

g1 : Harstem won, didn't see that one. Apparently a 2 base tank push failed badly.
g2 : this time the 2 base tank push does some damage (along with some liberator harass) to the quick 3 bases of Harstem. MaSa is behind most of the time but Harstem takes one dreadful engage and loses.
g3 : long macro game, harass in the beginning (WP adept for Harstem, widow mines for MaSa) does a lot of damage on both sides but it turns out far better for MaSa after two huge shots (18 probes killed in total). It goes on forever (blink adept templar vs liberators ghosts bio) and once range for libs is done Harstem has no answer (really late stargates).
g4 : 3 rax not even proxied won the game, can't believe this worked.


2 of the rax were proxied.

proxied near the 3rd of MaSa, that's more hidden than proxied

Makarax?!
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
March 02 2016 20:32 GMT
#1925
On March 03 2016 05:31 Sif_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2016 05:26 Soularion wrote:
On March 03 2016 05:25 Sif_ wrote:
major #30

pls explain how he isn't somewhere in the low 20s to high 30s


ptitdrogo #3

polt #5

come to think of it, was the PR seeded randomly like the iem bracket?


gonna explain how these are irrational or should I just know
Writermaru pls
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 02 2016 20:32 GMT
#1926
On March 03 2016 05:31 Sif_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2016 05:26 Soularion wrote:
On March 03 2016 05:25 Sif_ wrote:
major #30

pls explain how he isn't somewhere in the low 20s to high 30s


ptitdrogo #3

polt #5

come to think of it, was the PR seeded randomly like the iem bracket?


You're being a bitch about that, there are legit justifications in the PR
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
March 02 2016 20:32 GMT
#1927
On March 03 2016 05:31 OtherWorld wrote:
So guys, were MLorD's games good?
Also NA finally won a series, I am god damn impressed

MLord games were entertaining. He has some damn good splits. g2 on Central Protocol was a lot of fun. Otherwise he was pretty dominant, not the most interesting series of the day.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 02 2016 20:32 GMT
#1928
On March 03 2016 05:31 OtherWorld wrote:
So guys, were MLorD's games good?
Also NA finally won a series, I am god damn impressed


plz HuK won too.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
March 02 2016 20:32 GMT
#1929
On March 03 2016 05:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2016 05:31 OtherWorld wrote:
So guys, were MLorD's games good?
Also NA finally won a series, I am god damn impressed


plz HuK won too.

not vs EU though
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12912 Posts
March 02 2016 20:33 GMT
#1930
On March 03 2016 05:30 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2016 05:30 Poopi wrote:
On March 03 2016 05:29 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 03 2016 05:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 03 2016 05:27 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 03 2016 05:24 DJHelium wrote:
Can anyone do tl;dw on Harstem vs Masa?

g1 : Harstem won, didn't see that one. Apparently a 2 base tank push failed badly.
g2 : this time the 2 base tank push does some damage (along with some liberator harass) to the quick 3 bases of Harstem. MaSa is behind most of the time but Harstem takes one dreadful engage and loses.
g3 : long macro game, harass in the beginning (WP adept for Harstem, widow mines for MaSa) does a lot of damage on both sides but it turns out far better for MaSa after two huge shots (18 probes killed in total). It goes on forever (blink adept templar vs liberators ghosts bio) and once range for libs is done Harstem has no answer (really late stargates).
g4 : 3 rax not even proxied won the game, can't believe this worked.


2 of the rax were proxied.

proxied near the 3rd of MaSa, that's more hidden than proxied

If it's 2rax proxy hard to scout, it's one of the best TvP cheeses that could work after the pylon / adept nerfs

yeah I guess. I never ran into it on ladder, maybe I'm wildly underestimating it.

It's intrinsically not that strong but since protosses fast expand in this meta it's a sleeper
WriterMaru
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 02 2016 20:33 GMT
#1931
On March 03 2016 05:32 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2016 05:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 03 2016 05:31 OtherWorld wrote:
So guys, were MLorD's games good?
Also NA finally won a series, I am god damn impressed


plz HuK won too.

not vs EU though


NA has to count all the victories it can.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 02 2016 20:33 GMT
#1932
On March 03 2016 05:31 Sif_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2016 05:26 Soularion wrote:
On March 03 2016 05:25 Sif_ wrote:
major #30

pls explain how he isn't somewhere in the low 20s to high 30s


ptitdrogo #3

polt #5

come to think of it, was the PR seeded randomly like the iem bracket?


lol did they really put Major in 30?

he's clearly better than Lambo, Serral, Firecake, Pilipili, Huk, Pig, Puck, Masa, Harstem, Kelthuzad, Neeb and Elazer and probably better than Mana and Bunny as well tbh.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
March 02 2016 20:34 GMT
#1933
On March 03 2016 05:33 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2016 05:30 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 03 2016 05:30 Poopi wrote:
On March 03 2016 05:29 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 03 2016 05:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 03 2016 05:27 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 03 2016 05:24 DJHelium wrote:
Can anyone do tl;dw on Harstem vs Masa?

g1 : Harstem won, didn't see that one. Apparently a 2 base tank push failed badly.
g2 : this time the 2 base tank push does some damage (along with some liberator harass) to the quick 3 bases of Harstem. MaSa is behind most of the time but Harstem takes one dreadful engage and loses.
g3 : long macro game, harass in the beginning (WP adept for Harstem, widow mines for MaSa) does a lot of damage on both sides but it turns out far better for MaSa after two huge shots (18 probes killed in total). It goes on forever (blink adept templar vs liberators ghosts bio) and once range for libs is done Harstem has no answer (really late stargates).
g4 : 3 rax not even proxied won the game, can't believe this worked.


2 of the rax were proxied.

proxied near the 3rd of MaSa, that's more hidden than proxied

If it's 2rax proxy hard to scout, it's one of the best TvP cheeses that could work after the pylon / adept nerfs

yeah I guess. I never ran into it on ladder, maybe I'm wildly underestimating it.

It's intrinsically not that strong but since protosses fast expand in this meta it's a sleeper

I'm pretty sure you hold it even with fast expand if you pull probes and have more than 1 pylon.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
March 02 2016 20:35 GMT
#1934
On March 03 2016 05:33 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2016 05:31 Sif_ wrote:
On March 03 2016 05:26 Soularion wrote:
On March 03 2016 05:25 Sif_ wrote:
major #30

pls explain how he isn't somewhere in the low 20s to high 30s


ptitdrogo #3

polt #5

come to think of it, was the PR seeded randomly like the iem bracket?


lol did they really put Major in 30?

he's clearly better than Lambo, Serral, Firecake, Pilipili, Huk, Pig, Puck, Masa, Harstem, Kelthuzad, Neeb and Elazer and probably better than Mana and Bunny as well tbh.

Not better than Neeb, Firecake, Serral, MaNa and Elazer in LotV before the tourney at the very least. His lowish place was more than justified, we all know his potential but he can be god awful.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 02 2016 20:35 GMT
#1935
On March 03 2016 05:33 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2016 05:31 Sif_ wrote:
On March 03 2016 05:26 Soularion wrote:
On March 03 2016 05:25 Sif_ wrote:
major #30

pls explain how he isn't somewhere in the low 20s to high 30s


ptitdrogo #3

polt #5

come to think of it, was the PR seeded randomly like the iem bracket?


lol did they really put Major in 30?

he's clearly better than Lambo, Serral, Firecake, Pilipili, Huk, Pig, Puck, Masa, Harstem, Kelthuzad, Neeb and Elazer and probably better than Mana and Bunny as well tbh.

rofl Major isn't even close to Elazer/FireCake/Serral
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 02 2016 20:35 GMT
#1936
On March 03 2016 05:32 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2016 05:31 OtherWorld wrote:
So guys, were MLorD's games good?
Also NA finally won a series, I am god damn impressed

MLord games were entertaining. He has some damn good splits. g2 on Central Protocol was a lot of fun. Otherwise he was pretty dominant, not the most interesting series of the day.

Thanks
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 02 2016 20:35 GMT
#1937
lol Demuslim just repeated what Valdes said almost verbatim
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
March 02 2016 20:36 GMT
#1938
anyone noticed how Demuslim repeated almost exactly what Valdes said?
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 02 2016 20:36 GMT
#1939
oh it's the "let's hope he doesn't scout GS" build
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
March 02 2016 20:36 GMT
#1940
On March 03 2016 05:35 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2016 05:32 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 03 2016 05:31 OtherWorld wrote:
So guys, were MLorD's games good?
Also NA finally won a series, I am god damn impressed

MLord games were entertaining. He has some damn good splits. g2 on Central Protocol was a lot of fun. Otherwise he was pretty dominant, not the most interesting series of the day.

Thanks

you should watch g2, puCK went for a 3 gates attack on 1 base with 2 gates proxied into a proxy disruptor all-in. It got even funnier afterwards.
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