• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:14
CEST 00:14
KST 07:14
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course10Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16
Community News
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !10Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results12026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! 2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers SC2 INu's Battles#16 <BO.9> Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes Mutation # 523 Firewall
Brood War
General
Flashes ASL S21 Ro8 Review ASL Tickets to Live Event Finals? [ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? Why there arent any 256x256 pro maps?
Tourneys
[ASL21] Semifinals A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] RO16 Group Stage - 02 - 10 May [ASL21] Ro8 Day 3
Strategy
[G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne PC Games Sales Thread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
YouTube Thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2188 users

[WCS] Global Finals - Day 1 2015 - Page 310

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 308 309 310 311 312 423 Next
The first match is scheduled to begin at 18:30 GMT (+00:00)
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2955 Posts
November 01 2015 23:30 GMT
#6181
On November 02 2015 08:17 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 08:13 TheDougler wrote:
On November 02 2015 08:09 Musicus wrote:
On November 02 2015 08:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On November 02 2015 08:07 Musicus wrote:
Damn, TLO seems mad.

Of course he is. He is as angry as he should be. He did a shameful display. What are people going to think of the foreign scene after that ? This is our best representative ?


He can still redeem himself at DH Winter, I just don't get why anybody expected something different. It was phisically impossible to get efficient practice for this during the last 4 weeks.

Of course he should've still done better than he did, because you don't lose 3 games like this in a row. Even if you played only LotV.


Honestly, getting crushed like this happens. But the attitude, especially THIS is what bothers me.


But again, there was no way for him to practice!

If he went to Korea for practice, every single replay would've been sent to Life.

So he stayed in EU, but there the server has been dead since WCS Season 3.

It was a dilemma, so he chose to focus on DH winter, I don't blame him. He could've still done better today though, even while playing HotS, losing 3 games like this in a row is not necessary.


Yes, it might have been hard for Lilbow to prepare properly - but the way he lost was still embarassing. No one can expect a flawless performance with the given difficulties to train. The shameful thing was that Lilbow literally seemed to have no clue about the basic timings in HotS ZvP.
And these kind of things should really not happen. And Lilbow has a team, there must have been a Zerg or two as practice partner. The foreign scene should really be able to manage such minor things.

I understand that he wants to do well in LotV - but always preparing for what might be happening in the future is really not the way to do it. I doubt Lilbow is ever going to get the opportunity to go to Blizzcon again. To really think the Koreans won't dominate in LotV as they do now is just rather stupid. I wouldn't even be surprised if some Korean guy who barely practiced LotV until DH:W just crushes all the European/American players.
Tamagoshi
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil981 Posts
November 01 2015 23:30 GMT
#6182
On November 02 2015 08:29 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 08:28 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On November 02 2015 08:27 Boucot wrote:


vs the entire KT house dedicated to Life

I don't agree with the fact that he didn't practice at all but the difference in the quality of practice made it a lost cause from the very beginning. In the end, Lilbow is qualified for DH, a big tournament that he has a legit chance to win, a thing that wouldn't have happened if he had practiced more HotS (and still lost to Life by the way).

I'm disappointed by the result and by the way he lost but I understand the reasons behind it.

all I can tell you is I didn't like his attitude tonight, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. Being a champion is not just about the way you play.


What would Mvp do?

"I didn't practice because my body is broken"
Apoteosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile820 Posts
November 01 2015 23:30 GMT
#6183
Life did prepare well fot his match.
He knew that Lilbow would prepare for a mid-game allin and so he prepared for early game all-ins. You really can't critizice Lilbow when players such as Parting have lost to his 9pool.

Lilbow, on the other hand, didn't prepare, not because he said so, but because that seemed evident when you analyse his games. gateway nexus come on, against a zerg known for his early game antics. FFE would be a far better option, but whatever, the Frenchman didn't prepare properly.

There is a major difference between Life and the rest of players. He is widely known for his preparation. Lilbow got the worst possible opponent, but anyways, reaching Blizzcon alone is a huge merit for the French toss.
Life won like 200k and didn't hire a proper criminal lawyer.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
November 01 2015 23:30 GMT
#6184
On November 02 2015 08:29 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 08:28 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On November 02 2015 08:27 Boucot wrote:
https://twitter.com/mYiPtitDrogo/status/660959323112079360

vs the entire KT house dedicated to Life

I don't agree with the fact that he didn't practice at all but the difference in the quality of practice made it a lost cause from the very beginning. In the end, Lilbow is qualified for DH, a big tournament that he has a legit chance to win, a thing that wouldn't have happened if he had practiced more HotS (and still lost to Life by the way).

I'm disappointed by the result and by the way he lost but I understand the reasons behind it.

all I can tell you is I didn't like his attitude tonight, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. Being a champion is not just about the way you play.


What would Mvp do?

vanish from earth without a real retirement?
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12461 Posts
November 01 2015 23:30 GMT
#6185
On November 02 2015 08:29 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 08:28 Makro wrote:
On November 02 2015 08:27 Musicus wrote:
On November 02 2015 08:26 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
https://twitter.com/mYiPtitDrogo/status/660959323112079360


Thanks for posting, I really think people are being way too harsh on Lilbow.

lilbow should have tweet something like it wasn't his day, he crumbled under the pressure and he wouldn't have get so much shit


so he basically gets all the hate for being honest


The hate was there, if he hadn't said this it would have grasped on something else. This conversation isn't being had in any kind of legitimate way.
No will to live, no wish to die
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
November 01 2015 23:31 GMT
#6186
On November 02 2015 08:28 AWalker9 wrote:

The gracken has spoken!
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-01 23:31:18
November 01 2015 23:31 GMT
#6187
On November 02 2015 08:30 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 08:28 blooblooblahblah wrote:
On November 02 2015 08:26 Ej_ wrote:
On November 02 2015 08:26 blooblooblahblah wrote:
On November 02 2015 08:22 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On November 02 2015 08:21 Pursuit_ wrote:
On November 02 2015 08:19 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On November 02 2015 08:18 DonDomingo wrote:
Were you guys actually expecting Lilbow to practise HotS?

Are such ling attacks are still viable in LotV? (e:I dont have beta)


stuff like 14/14 is even stronger with the faster start because your opponent has less time to scout and react.

I guess then this match was good LotV training for Lilbow


Eh, i don't think 14/14 is stronger in LotV. It's alright because people are way more greedy, but as a whole it's worse. Overlord drop builds are way better.

OL drop is at lair now ;p


What? no it's not lol, i've literally played 400 games of LotV in the last couple of weeks. there's no way it's lair.

evo then? I played a bit of LotV recently and it was greyed out on ovies


Yeah it's evolution chamber. Definitely not lair, trust mee
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
November 01 2015 23:31 GMT
#6188
On November 02 2015 08:29 Tiaraju9 wrote:
The question is: will lilbow take firecake place as the most hated french player after today?

no, of course not... But I hope he understands why so many people are upset by his attitude tonight and works on his public image and communication.
Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
November 01 2015 23:31 GMT
#6189
On November 02 2015 08:29 RHoudini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 08:26 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
https://twitter.com/mYiPtitDrogo/status/660959323112079360

Pathetic.

This comment yes.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
November 01 2015 23:31 GMT
#6190
The DH lotv event will feature
+ Show Spoiler +
Qualifiers
2 spots in the Americas Qualifier
1 spot in the Oceania Qualifier
6 spots in the Western & Central Europe Qualifiers
4 spots in the Northern Europe Qualifiers
4 spots in the Eastern Europe Qualifiers
2 spots in the Southern Europe Qualifier
Invites
1 Western Wildcard
4 Korean Wildcards


I still doubt that his endeavors to prepare for that event will be enough.
There are 4 koreans there.
The Bomber boy
Sholip
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
Hungary422 Posts
November 01 2015 23:31 GMT
#6191
Just a side note to those that say, "Lilbow should have forfeited his spot to give a chance to Hyun to play!", don't forget it would have also meant giving up a free $5k. You can't really blame him for not doing that, can you?
"A hero is no braver than an ordinary man, but he is brave five minutes longer. Also, Zest is best." – Ralph Waldo Emerson
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55572 Posts
November 01 2015 23:31 GMT
#6192
On November 02 2015 08:29 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 08:28 Makro wrote:
On November 02 2015 08:27 Musicus wrote:
On November 02 2015 08:26 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
https://twitter.com/mYiPtitDrogo/status/660959323112079360


Thanks for posting, I really think people are being way too harsh on Lilbow.

lilbow should have tweet something like it wasn't his day, he crumbled under the pressure and he wouldn't have get so much shit


so he basically gets all the hate for being honest

"This is the biggest tournament in SC2 and I might never get there again, and who knows who the next foreigner at Blizzcon will be. But I didn't practice a lot and don't really care tbh lel"

Really can't complain about him getting shit for that attitude.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
November 01 2015 23:31 GMT
#6193
WCS Global Finals: Ro16

(T)Polt vs (P)Rain
0-0

Map: Moonlight Madness

Polt spawns in the top right
Rain spawns in the bottom left
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
November 01 2015 23:32 GMT
#6194
Woot, got food and ate and i'm back just in time!

Last time I remember they played each other in a bo5, it was (and probably still is) one of my favorite TvP series of all time. Please, have a repeat of that.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
November 01 2015 23:32 GMT
#6195
Bunny's wise words:
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
November 01 2015 23:32 GMT
#6196
Come on Polt ! We want a series
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10116 Posts
November 01 2015 23:32 GMT
#6197
does ]Polt still snipe Nexus?
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
November 01 2015 23:32 GMT
#6198
He should have scrimmed with KT players if they offered it, do you really think Life would have bothered watching the replays?

Hey, here's two more players who don't have KeSPA teams to practice with. Let's see if they can play above an EU diamond level!
>Liquid'Nazgul: Of course you are completely right
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12461 Posts
November 01 2015 23:32 GMT
#6199
On November 02 2015 08:31 Wintex wrote:
The DH lotv event will feature
+ Show Spoiler +
Qualifiers
2 spots in the Americas Qualifier
1 spot in the Oceania Qualifier
6 spots in the Western & Central Europe Qualifiers
4 spots in the Northern Europe Qualifiers
4 spots in the Eastern Europe Qualifiers
2 spots in the Southern Europe Qualifier
Invites
1 Western Wildcard
4 Korean Wildcards


I still doubt that his endeavors to prepare for that event will be enough.
There are 4 koreans there.


Regardless his odds at making additional money can hardly be worse.
No will to live, no wish to die
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
November 01 2015 23:32 GMT
#6200
On November 02 2015 08:32 AWalker9 wrote:
Bunny's wise words:
https://twitter.com/Liquid_Bunny/status/660962320395452416

Agreed
Prev 1 308 309 310 311 312 423 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 46m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 124
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 2418
Artosis 250
ggaemo 128
Mong 27
Dota 2
monkeys_forever559
XaKoH 544
NeuroSwarm101
League of Legends
Doublelift7378
tarik_tv5086
JimRising 393
Counter-Strike
fl0m5337
Fnx 1367
Super Smash Bros
PPMD35
Other Games
Grubby4460
summit1g4137
Liquid`RaSZi1552
FrodaN1458
shahzam758
C9.Mang0287
ZombieGrub114
ArmadaUGS91
UpATreeSC51
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 50
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki15
• Pr0nogo 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2563
League of Legends
• imaqtpie2220
• Shiphtur317
Upcoming Events
OSC
1h 46m
CranKy Ducklings
11h 46m
Afreeca Starleague
11h 46m
Light vs Flash
INu's Battles
12h 46m
ByuN vs herO
PiGosaur Cup
1d 1h
Replay Cast
1d 10h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
OSC
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
BSL
4 days
GSL
5 days
Cure vs TBD
TBD vs Maru
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W7
YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026: Closed Qualifier
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.