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On November 02 2015 08:32 Yorkie wrote:
LOL
perfect.
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On November 02 2015 08:32 AWalker9 wrote:
Bunny's wise words:
Absolutely, this is the best comment ///
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Greg, never change :D lol
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Idra should totally be on the panel, and I don't even like him.
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idra still pretending to be salty after all these years
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this is a good map for Polt if he can resist any 2 base attack.
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On November 02 2015 08:32 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 08:30 Tamagoshi wrote:On November 02 2015 08:29 stuchiu wrote:On November 02 2015 08:28 [PkF] Wire wrote:On November 02 2015 08:27 Boucot wrote:
vs the entire KT house dedicated to Life
I don't agree with the fact that he didn't practice at all but the difference in the quality of practice made it a lost cause from the very beginning. In the end, Lilbow is qualified for DH, a big tournament that he has a legit chance to win, a thing that wouldn't have happened if he had practiced more HotS (and still lost to Life by the way).
I'm disappointed by the result and by the way he lost but I understand the reasons behind it. all I can tell you is I didn't like his attitude tonight, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. Being a champion is not just about the way you play. What would Mvp do? "I didn't practice because my body is broken" no "I practiced even if my limbs were falling apart and i couldn't feel the pain anymore."
"I practiced even when I couldn't feel my hands on the keyboard but only the pain."
I think Mvp actually said something like that once - and I know that he's played when he said his hands were so numbed out that he couldn't feel his fingers hitting the keys.
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On November 02 2015 08:34 Strela wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 08:33 MaCRo.gg wrote:On November 02 2015 08:28 mderg wrote:On November 02 2015 08:21 MaCRo.gg wrote:On November 02 2015 08:17 Musicus wrote:On November 02 2015 08:13 TheDougler wrote:On November 02 2015 08:09 Musicus wrote:On November 02 2015 08:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:On November 02 2015 08:07 Musicus wrote:
Damn, TLO seems mad. Of course he is. He is as angry as he should be. He did a shameful display. What are people going to think of the foreign scene after that ? This is our best representative ? He can still redeem himself at DH Winter, I just don't get why anybody expected something different. It was phisically impossible to get efficient practice for this during the last 4 weeks. Of course he should've still done better than he did, because you don't lose 3 games like this in a row. Even if you played only LotV. Honestly, getting crushed like this happens. But the attitude, especially THIS is what bothers me. But again, there was no way for him to practice! If he went to Korea for practice, every single replay would've been sent to Life. So he stayed in EU, but there the server has been dead since WCS Season 3. It was a dilemma, so he chose to focus on DH winter, I don't blame him. He could've still done better today though, even while playing HotS, losing 3 games like this in a row is not necessary. Why would you assume that your replays would be sent to Life? Is it that safe to assume that no Koreans are willing to help out Lilbow and knowingly disadvantage him? Wouldn't Koreans want a less mechanically gifted player to go through Life so that they won't have to face Life? I think you might not know koreans I am Korean.... Then you should know how it works....
Koreans are a more "in-group" focused people, but they are humans so I would expect at least A FEW to not enjoy Life's guts anyway.
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On November 02 2015 08:34 felisconcolori wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 08:32 Wintex wrote:On November 02 2015 08:30 Tamagoshi wrote:On November 02 2015 08:29 stuchiu wrote:On November 02 2015 08:28 [PkF] Wire wrote:On November 02 2015 08:27 Boucot wrote:https://twitter.com/mYiPtitDrogo/status/660959323112079360vs the entire KT house dedicated to Life I don't agree with the fact that he didn't practice at all but the difference in the quality of practice made it a lost cause from the very beginning. In the end, Lilbow is qualified for DH, a big tournament that he has a legit chance to win, a thing that wouldn't have happened if he had practiced more HotS (and still lost to Life by the way). I'm disappointed by the result and by the way he lost but I understand the reasons behind it. all I can tell you is I didn't like his attitude tonight, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. Being a champion is not just about the way you play. What would Mvp do? "I didn't practice because my body is broken" no "I practiced even if my limbs were falling apart and i couldn't feel the pain anymore." "I practiced even when I couldn't feel my hands on the keyboard but only the pain." I think Mvp actually said something like that once - and I know that he's played when he said his hands were so numbed out that he couldn't feel his fingers hitting the keys.
think that was NesTea
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On November 02 2015 08:32 robson1 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 08:27 ZAiNs wrote:On November 02 2015 08:26 robson1 wrote:On November 02 2015 08:24 ZAiNs wrote:On November 02 2015 08:22 robson1 wrote:
I have a hard time believing this story by Lilbow tbh. I just can't picture that he couldn't ask TLO or Snute for example and practice with them. I mean those guys are not Life, and they also have no incentive to pratice, but I have a hard time believing that TLO for example would turn down such a request. TLO has played LotV for months. Snute went on a break and then started playing LotV. Practice against them would be a waste unless they were willing to 'waste' a lot of their time to get up to snuff with HotS and forget about getting good at LotV beta (and even then Lilbow would probably lose any ways). So you're telling me TLO needs 100 pratice games to pull of ling runbys and baneling busts? Lilbow didn't loose to some next level starcraft. He looked like a mid master player in these games. Yea, that's exactly what would have helped Lilbow! Practicing vs 100 Ling runbys in a row! Then he would have beat Life!!!!!!!!!! You're makin up a false dichotomy. Nobody expected him to beat life. Nobody is angry about him not beating life. People are angry, because he didn't try. Trying your hardest is at the heart of every serious competition, and if you don't try you might as well don't bother.
He couldn't try though! That's the point! Lilbow is a competitor. Not being able to try is probably VERY UPSETTING TO HIM, but he COULDN'T. Lilbow 'doesn't care' because he is upset, not because he is an emotionless robot.
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On November 02 2015 08:33 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 08:33 TheDougler wrote:On November 02 2015 08:26 Ej_ wrote:On November 02 2015 08:26 blooblooblahblah wrote:On November 02 2015 08:22 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On November 02 2015 08:21 Pursuit_ wrote:On November 02 2015 08:19 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On November 02 2015 08:18 DonDomingo wrote:
Were you guys actually expecting Lilbow to practise HotS? Are such ling attacks are still viable in LotV? (e:I dont have beta) stuff like 14/14 is even stronger with the faster start because your opponent has less time to scout and react. I guess then this match was good LotV training for Lilbow Eh, i don't think 14/14 is stronger in LotV. It's alright because people are way more greedy, but as a whole it's worse. Overlord drop builds are way better. OL drop is at lair now ;p Didn't they move it to evolution chamber? yes that was my bad still cuts the gouda potential though
It's still really strong and popular on ladder. I forgot it was a thing and then JimRising did it against me and absolutely demolished me.
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your Country52797 Posts
On November 02 2015 08:31 The_Templar wrote:Map: Moonlight Madness  Polt spawns in the top right  Rain spawns in the bottom left
2:00
Reaper first for Polt.
Rain opening gate/gas into cybernetics core.
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MSC core for Rain.
Rain expands.
Polt getting a factory after an expansion.
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Rain scouts the factory, as there are no marines out yet. Two are being made.
The reaper gets back home and kills the probe.
Polt starts working on his back door rocks with his marines.
5:00
Stargate for Rain.
Starport for Polt.
Polt making a widow mine.
The reaper hangs outside the natural of Rain.
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Lilbow took being French to the next level by surrendering before the event even started
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On November 02 2015 08:34 felisconcolori wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 08:32 Wintex wrote:On November 02 2015 08:30 Tamagoshi wrote:On November 02 2015 08:29 stuchiu wrote:On November 02 2015 08:28 [PkF] Wire wrote:On November 02 2015 08:27 Boucot wrote:https://twitter.com/mYiPtitDrogo/status/660959323112079360vs the entire KT house dedicated to Life I don't agree with the fact that he didn't practice at all but the difference in the quality of practice made it a lost cause from the very beginning. In the end, Lilbow is qualified for DH, a big tournament that he has a legit chance to win, a thing that wouldn't have happened if he had practiced more HotS (and still lost to Life by the way). I'm disappointed by the result and by the way he lost but I understand the reasons behind it. all I can tell you is I didn't like his attitude tonight, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. Being a champion is not just about the way you play. What would Mvp do? "I didn't practice because my body is broken" no "I practiced even if my limbs were falling apart and i couldn't feel the pain anymore." "I practiced even when I couldn't feel my hands on the keyboard but only the pain." I think Mvp actually said something like that once - and I know that he's played when he said his hands were so numbed out that he couldn't feel his fingers hitting the keys.
yeah that's where i got it from. he had to change his way of prep because he couldn't play for a lot of time before he got numb.
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On November 02 2015 08:18 MorDka wrote:
People thinking that he wouldnt find any good foreginers to practise with are braindead...
And if there is no more choices at all he could've at least played on Kr ladder under an unidentified barcode; despite the ping it still would've been practice, sure it wouldn't have been the most ideal way but he is already lucky that he has the environment that he has now. T_T
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On November 02 2015 08:34 Strela wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 08:33 MaCRo.gg wrote:On November 02 2015 08:28 mderg wrote:On November 02 2015 08:21 MaCRo.gg wrote:On November 02 2015 08:17 Musicus wrote:On November 02 2015 08:13 TheDougler wrote:On November 02 2015 08:09 Musicus wrote:On November 02 2015 08:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:On November 02 2015 08:07 Musicus wrote:
Damn, TLO seems mad. Of course he is. He is as angry as he should be. He did a shameful display. What are people going to think of the foreign scene after that ? This is our best representative ? He can still redeem himself at DH Winter, I just don't get why anybody expected something different. It was phisically impossible to get efficient practice for this during the last 4 weeks. Of course he should've still done better than he did, because you don't lose 3 games like this in a row. Even if you played only LotV. Honestly, getting crushed like this happens. But the attitude, especially THIS is what bothers me. But again, there was no way for him to practice! If he went to Korea for practice, every single replay would've been sent to Life. So he stayed in EU, but there the server has been dead since WCS Season 3. It was a dilemma, so he chose to focus on DH winter, I don't blame him. He could've still done better today though, even while playing HotS, losing 3 games like this in a row is not necessary. Why would you assume that your replays would be sent to Life? Is it that safe to assume that no Koreans are willing to help out Lilbow and knowingly disadvantage him? Wouldn't Koreans want a less mechanically gifted player to go through Life so that they won't have to face Life? I think you might not know koreans I am Korean.... Then you should know how it works....
Yeah because we all think alike.... SMH
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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On November 02 2015 08:30 Swisslink wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 08:17 Musicus wrote:On November 02 2015 08:13 TheDougler wrote:On November 02 2015 08:09 Musicus wrote:On November 02 2015 08:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:On November 02 2015 08:07 Musicus wrote:
Damn, TLO seems mad. Of course he is. He is as angry as he should be. He did a shameful display. What are people going to think of the foreign scene after that ? This is our best representative ? He can still redeem himself at DH Winter, I just don't get why anybody expected something different. It was phisically impossible to get efficient practice for this during the last 4 weeks. Of course he should've still done better than he did, because you don't lose 3 games like this in a row. Even if you played only LotV. Honestly, getting crushed like this happens. But the attitude, especially THIS is what bothers me. But again, there was no way for him to practice! If he went to Korea for practice, every single replay would've been sent to Life. So he stayed in EU, but there the server has been dead since WCS Season 3. It was a dilemma, so he chose to focus on DH winter, I don't blame him. He could've still done better today though, even while playing HotS, losing 3 games like this in a row is not necessary. Yes, it might have been hard for Lilbow to prepare properly - but the way he lost was still embarassing. No one can expect a flawless performance with the given difficulties to train. The shameful thing was that Lilbow literally seemed to have no clue about the basic timings in HotS ZvP. And these kind of things should really not happen. And Lilbow has a team, there must have been a Zerg or two as practice partner. The foreign scene should really be able to manage such minor things. I understand that he wants to do well in LotV - but always preparing for what might be happening in the future is really not the way to do it. I doubt Lilbow is ever going to get the opportunity to go to Blizzcon again. To really think the Koreans won't dominate in LotV as they do now is just rather stupid. I wouldn't even be surprised if some Korean guy who barely practiced LotV until DH:W just crushes all the European/American players.
Okay, I get what you and the rest are saying. But as it was, the foreign scene was not able to get practice for Lilbow, they even asked every Korean team.
So people just don't see how hard it would've been for him to prepare. It's sad that this is the truth and other foreigners didn't help him out etc..., but it is as it is.
Also I do think he can get to BlizzCon again, he already proved that he can beat the Koreans that play in WCS. Why not in 2016? Maybe he will do better then, since the other guys on the EU server will actually play game next year.
Anyway, let's see what Polt can do, he was last in the community ranking, would be sick to see him surprise people now  .
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On November 02 2015 08:33 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 08:32 robson1 wrote:On November 02 2015 08:27 ZAiNs wrote:On November 02 2015 08:26 robson1 wrote:On November 02 2015 08:24 ZAiNs wrote:On November 02 2015 08:22 robson1 wrote:
I have a hard time believing this story by Lilbow tbh. I just can't picture that he couldn't ask TLO or Snute for example and practice with them. I mean those guys are not Life, and they also have no incentive to pratice, but I have a hard time believing that TLO for example would turn down such a request. TLO has played LotV for months. Snute went on a break and then started playing LotV. Practice against them would be a waste unless they were willing to 'waste' a lot of their time to get up to snuff with HotS and forget about getting good at LotV beta (and even then Lilbow would probably lose any ways). So you're telling me TLO needs 100 pratice games to pull of ling runbys and baneling busts? Lilbow didn't loose to some next level starcraft. He looked like a mid master player in these games. Yea, that's exactly what would have helped Lilbow! Practicing vs 100 Ling runbys in a row! Then he would have beat Life!!!!!!!!!! You're makin up a false dichotomy. Nobody expected him to beat life. Nobody is angry about him not beating life. People are angry, because he didn't try. Trying your hardest is at the heart of every serious competition, and if you don't try you might as well don't bother. What's your evidence that he didn't try? Do you think he threw the games?
No. Because he didn't practice. He didn't take it seriously. He didn't lose on purpose, but he didn't put in any effort.
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