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On November 02 2015 08:27 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 08:26 robson1 wrote:On November 02 2015 08:24 ZAiNs wrote:On November 02 2015 08:22 robson1 wrote:
I have a hard time believing this story by Lilbow tbh. I just can't picture that he couldn't ask TLO or Snute for example and practice with them. I mean those guys are not Life, and they also have no incentive to pratice, but I have a hard time believing that TLO for example would turn down such a request. TLO has played LotV for months. Snute went on a break and then started playing LotV. Practice against them would be a waste unless they were willing to 'waste' a lot of their time to get up to snuff with HotS and forget about getting good at LotV beta (and even then Lilbow would probably lose any ways). So you're telling me TLO needs 100 pratice games to pull of ling runbys and baneling busts? Lilbow didn't loose to some next level starcraft. He looked like a mid master player in these games. Yea, that's exactly what would have helped Lilbow! Practicing vs 100 Ling runbys in a row! Then he would have beat Life!!!!!!!!!!
You're makin up a false dichotomy. Nobody expected him to beat life. Nobody is angry about him not beating life. People are angry, because he didn't try. Trying your hardest is at the heart of every serious competition, and if you don't try you might as well don't bother.
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On November 02 2015 08:31 Sholip wrote:
Just a side note to those that say, "Lilbow should have forfeited his spot to give a chance to Hyun to play!", don't forget it would have also meant giving up a free $5k. You can't really blame him for not doing that, can you?
To be honest, he earned that $5k from his achievements before this tournament.
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Ok shut up about Lilbow. It's about Captain America now
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On November 02 2015 08:30 Tamagoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 08:29 stuchiu wrote:On November 02 2015 08:28 [PkF] Wire wrote:On November 02 2015 08:27 Boucot wrote:
vs the entire KT house dedicated to Life
I don't agree with the fact that he didn't practice at all but the difference in the quality of practice made it a lost cause from the very beginning. In the end, Lilbow is qualified for DH, a big tournament that he has a legit chance to win, a thing that wouldn't have happened if he had practiced more HotS (and still lost to Life by the way).
I'm disappointed by the result and by the way he lost but I understand the reasons behind it. all I can tell you is I didn't like his attitude tonight, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. Being a champion is not just about the way you play. What would Mvp do? "I didn't practice because my body is broken"
no
"I practiced even if my limbs were falling apart and i couldn't feel the pain anymore."
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On November 02 2015 08:32 AWalker9 wrote:
Bunny's wise words:
Agreed. People need time to accept their losses, venting where everyone can see is not the way to go.
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On November 02 2015 08:26 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 08:26 blooblooblahblah wrote:On November 02 2015 08:22 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On November 02 2015 08:21 Pursuit_ wrote:On November 02 2015 08:19 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On November 02 2015 08:18 DonDomingo wrote:
Were you guys actually expecting Lilbow to practise HotS? Are such ling attacks are still viable in LotV? (e:I dont have beta) stuff like 14/14 is even stronger with the faster start because your opponent has less time to scout and react. I guess then this match was good LotV training for Lilbow Eh, i don't think 14/14 is stronger in LotV. It's alright because people are way more greedy, but as a whole it's worse. Overlord drop builds are way better. OL drop is at lair now ;p
Didn't they move it to evolution chamber?
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He started making excuses before he even lost though.
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Being a champion is not just about the way you play.
That.
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thanks for supplying the LR thread with views from the twitterverse.
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On November 02 2015 08:28 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 08:21 MaCRo.gg wrote:On November 02 2015 08:17 Musicus wrote:On November 02 2015 08:13 TheDougler wrote:On November 02 2015 08:09 Musicus wrote:On November 02 2015 08:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:On November 02 2015 08:07 Musicus wrote:
Damn, TLO seems mad. Of course he is. He is as angry as he should be. He did a shameful display. What are people going to think of the foreign scene after that ? This is our best representative ? He can still redeem himself at DH Winter, I just don't get why anybody expected something different. It was phisically impossible to get efficient practice for this during the last 4 weeks. Of course he should've still done better than he did, because you don't lose 3 games like this in a row. Even if you played only LotV. Honestly, getting crushed like this happens. But the attitude, especially THIS is what bothers me. But again, there was no way for him to practice! If he went to Korea for practice, every single replay would've been sent to Life. So he stayed in EU, but there the server has been dead since WCS Season 3. It was a dilemma, so he chose to focus on DH winter, I don't blame him. He could've still done better today though, even while playing HotS, losing 3 games like this in a row is not necessary. Why would you assume that your replays would be sent to Life? Is it that safe to assume that no Koreans are willing to help out Lilbow and knowingly disadvantage him? Wouldn't Koreans want a less mechanically gifted player to go through Life so that they won't have to face Life? I think you might not know koreans
I am Korean....
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On November 02 2015 08:32 robson1 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 08:27 ZAiNs wrote:On November 02 2015 08:26 robson1 wrote:On November 02 2015 08:24 ZAiNs wrote:On November 02 2015 08:22 robson1 wrote:
I have a hard time believing this story by Lilbow tbh. I just can't picture that he couldn't ask TLO or Snute for example and practice with them. I mean those guys are not Life, and they also have no incentive to pratice, but I have a hard time believing that TLO for example would turn down such a request. TLO has played LotV for months. Snute went on a break and then started playing LotV. Practice against them would be a waste unless they were willing to 'waste' a lot of their time to get up to snuff with HotS and forget about getting good at LotV beta (and even then Lilbow would probably lose any ways). So you're telling me TLO needs 100 pratice games to pull of ling runbys and baneling busts? Lilbow didn't loose to some next level starcraft. He looked like a mid master player in these games. Yea, that's exactly what would have helped Lilbow! Practicing vs 100 Ling runbys in a row! Then he would have beat Life!!!!!!!!!! You're makin up a false dichotomy. Nobody expected him to beat life. Nobody is angry about him not beating life. People are angry, because he didn't try. Trying your hardest is at the heart of every serious competition, and if you don't try you might as well don't bother.
What's your evidence that he didn't try? Do you think he threw the games?
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Still got a strong twitter game
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On November 02 2015 08:29 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 08:28 Makro wrote:On November 02 2015 08:27 Musicus wrote:Thanks for posting, I really think people are being way too harsh on Lilbow. lilbow should have tweet something like it wasn't his day, he crumbled under the pressure and he wouldn't have get so much shit so he basically gets all the hate for being honest
yes, but that's some basic principle in the world of competition may it be esport or sport
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On November 02 2015 08:33 TheDougler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 08:26 Ej_ wrote:On November 02 2015 08:26 blooblooblahblah wrote:On November 02 2015 08:22 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On November 02 2015 08:21 Pursuit_ wrote:On November 02 2015 08:19 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On November 02 2015 08:18 DonDomingo wrote:
Were you guys actually expecting Lilbow to practise HotS? Are such ling attacks are still viable in LotV? (e:I dont have beta) stuff like 14/14 is even stronger with the faster start because your opponent has less time to scout and react. I guess then this match was good LotV training for Lilbow Eh, i don't think 14/14 is stronger in LotV. It's alright because people are way more greedy, but as a whole it's worse. Overlord drop builds are way better. OL drop is at lair now ;p Didn't they move it to evolution chamber?
yes that was my bad
still cuts the gouda potential though
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Arty picked Rain :DDDDDDDD
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On November 02 2015 08:33 MaCRo.gg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 08:28 mderg wrote:On November 02 2015 08:21 MaCRo.gg wrote:On November 02 2015 08:17 Musicus wrote:On November 02 2015 08:13 TheDougler wrote:On November 02 2015 08:09 Musicus wrote:On November 02 2015 08:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:On November 02 2015 08:07 Musicus wrote:
Damn, TLO seems mad. Of course he is. He is as angry as he should be. He did a shameful display. What are people going to think of the foreign scene after that ? This is our best representative ? He can still redeem himself at DH Winter, I just don't get why anybody expected something different. It was phisically impossible to get efficient practice for this during the last 4 weeks. Of course he should've still done better than he did, because you don't lose 3 games like this in a row. Even if you played only LotV. Honestly, getting crushed like this happens. But the attitude, especially THIS is what bothers me. But again, there was no way for him to practice! If he went to Korea for practice, every single replay would've been sent to Life. So he stayed in EU, but there the server has been dead since WCS Season 3. It was a dilemma, so he chose to focus on DH winter, I don't blame him. He could've still done better today though, even while playing HotS, losing 3 games like this in a row is not necessary. Why would you assume that your replays would be sent to Life? Is it that safe to assume that no Koreans are willing to help out Lilbow and knowingly disadvantage him? Wouldn't Koreans want a less mechanically gifted player to go through Life so that they won't have to face Life? I think you might not know koreans I am Korean....
Then you should know how it works....
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On November 02 2015 08:32 xenonn40 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 08:31 Sholip wrote:
Just a side note to those that say, "Lilbow should have forfeited his spot to give a chance to Hyun to play!", don't forget it would have also meant giving up a free $5k. You can't really blame him for not doing that, can you? To be honest, he earned that $5k from his achievements before this tournament.
He did, but if he had forfeited his spot, he wouldn't have got the money, I'm pretty sure.
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