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Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
September 19 2015 20:30 GMT
#461
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Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3135 Posts
September 19 2015 20:30 GMT
#462
I agree the complaining about Adepts is a bit much. It's Beta, and MC and Huk are utilizing a new unit really karking well against opponents without that much experience. It's natural they'd do well. It doesn't necessarily mean adepts are OP, let alone crazy OP. It's just part of what it means to have a Beta tournament.
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-19 20:31:37
September 19 2015 20:31 GMT
#463
On September 20 2015 05:29 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2015 05:28 Solar424 wrote:
Yeah this game isn't ready for release in 2 months. There's as much broken BS now as in Day 1 of the Beta.

The game is better if it's released a bit broken because a lot of playtesters in the real game and in an actually good environment will make balance easier to fix.


Open Beta?

But hey, why open betas, when you just can sell open betas for 39.99 and call them "gold version"
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
September 19 2015 20:31 GMT
#464
On September 20 2015 05:29 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2015 05:28 Solar424 wrote:
Yeah this game isn't ready for release in 2 months. There's as much broken BS now as in Day 1 of the Beta.

The game is better if it's released a bit broken because a lot of playtesters in the real game and in an actually good environment will make balance easier to fix.

You don't need a big playerbase to see that adepts are broken units
Poopfeast 024
Profile Joined November 2014
Gambia437 Posts
September 19 2015 20:32 GMT
#465
On September 20 2015 05:30 Captain Peabody wrote:
I agree the complaining about Adepts is a bit much. It's Beta, and MC and Huk are utilizing a new unit really karking well against opponents without that much experience. It's natural they'd do well. It doesn't necessarily mean adepts are OP, let alone crazy OP. It's just part of what it means to have a Beta tournament.



it is an unit with absurd stats/cost. learning to play against something that has ridiculous stats for its price worked out really well in hots beta right?
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16848 Posts
September 19 2015 20:32 GMT
#466
On September 20 2015 05:31 Clonester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2015 05:29 Wintex wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:28 Solar424 wrote:
Yeah this game isn't ready for release in 2 months. There's as much broken BS now as in Day 1 of the Beta.

The game is better if it's released a bit broken because a lot of playtesters in the real game and in an actually good environment will make balance easier to fix.


Open Beta?

why not just release the game. people can play the campaign etc. it's not like proplay will be truly ready before wcs season 1
The Bomber boy
Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
September 19 2015 20:32 GMT
#467
On September 20 2015 05:30 Captain Peabody wrote:
I agree the complaining about Adepts is a bit much. It's Beta, and MC and Huk are utilizing a new unit really karking well against opponents without that much experience. It's natural they'd do well. It doesn't necessarily mean adepts are OP, let alone crazy OP. It's just part of what it means to have a Beta tournament.


Exactly. Adepts are probably OP in some way, but they are not making Huk/MC "auto" win any game.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16848 Posts
September 19 2015 20:33 GMT
#468
On September 20 2015 05:31 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2015 05:29 Wintex wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:28 Solar424 wrote:
Yeah this game isn't ready for release in 2 months. There's as much broken BS now as in Day 1 of the Beta.

The game is better if it's released a bit broken because a lot of playtesters in the real game and in an actually good environment will make balance easier to fix.

You don't need a big playerbase to see that adepts are broken units

You don't need a big playerbase to see that it's a beta where they are testing design more than creating a fully functional game. The more something is broken, the more it will be a focus and then you get more data.

Good god, dude.
The Bomber boy
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
September 19 2015 20:33 GMT
#469
Everything people are saying in defense of adepts was said in defense of reapers in WoL and hellbats in HotS. It was wrong then and it's wrong now.
TheWinks
Profile Joined July 2011
United States572 Posts
September 19 2015 20:34 GMT
#470
On September 20 2015 05:30 Captain Peabody wrote:
I agree the complaining about Adepts is a bit much. It's Beta, and MC and Huk are utilizing a new unit really karking well against opponents without that much experience. It's natural they'd do well. It doesn't necessarily mean adepts are OP, let alone crazy OP. It's just part of what it means to have a Beta tournament.

Nah, it's like pre-nerf mass ravager. It's not just that the unit is too strong, the resulting games are uninteresting.
CheddarToss
Profile Joined September 2015
534 Posts
September 19 2015 20:34 GMT
#471
On September 20 2015 05:30 Captain Peabody wrote:
I agree the complaining about Adepts is a bit much. It's Beta, and MC and Huk are utilizing a new unit really karking well against opponents without that much experience. It's natural they'd do well. It doesn't necessarily mean adepts are OP, let alone crazy OP. It's just part of what it means to have a Beta tournament.

Yes, that's exactly how I see it. I've been watching Huk's and MC's streams and Adept/WP harass doesn't do nearly as well on ladder as it did against Bomber/MMA and Violet/the other guy. I have a feeling that Terrans in this tournament weren't practicing LotV as much as Huk/MC have.
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
September 19 2015 20:34 GMT
#472
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 19 2015 20:35 GMT
#473
cheeky, tilted, slump

I think I have covered all the key areas for this series
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
September 19 2015 20:35 GMT
#474
I hope we get some lurkers
Neosteel Enthusiast
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
September 19 2015 20:36 GMT
#475
On September 20 2015 05:33 jalstar wrote:
Everything people are saying in defense of adepts was said in defense of reapers in WoL and hellbats in HotS. It was wrong then and it's wrong now.


It is more like warhounds in hots. You did not need a large player base to see that they where totaly out of any form of balance.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
September 19 2015 20:37 GMT
#476
On September 20 2015 05:33 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2015 05:31 Solar424 wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:29 Wintex wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:28 Solar424 wrote:
Yeah this game isn't ready for release in 2 months. There's as much broken BS now as in Day 1 of the Beta.

The game is better if it's released a bit broken because a lot of playtesters in the real game and in an actually good environment will make balance easier to fix.

You don't need a big playerbase to see that adepts are broken units

You don't need a big playerbase to see that it's a beta where they are testing design more than creating a fully functional game. The more something is broken, the more it will be a focus and then you get more data.

Good god, dude.

So things can just be broken because its a Beta?
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
September 19 2015 20:37 GMT
#477
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
September 19 2015 20:37 GMT
#478
Haha that grenade blasted his own reapers backwards away from the cliff
Neosteel Enthusiast
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
September 19 2015 20:38 GMT
#479
On September 20 2015 05:37 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2015 05:33 Wintex wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:31 Solar424 wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:29 Wintex wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:28 Solar424 wrote:
Yeah this game isn't ready for release in 2 months. There's as much broken BS now as in Day 1 of the Beta.

The game is better if it's released a bit broken because a lot of playtesters in the real game and in an actually good environment will make balance easier to fix.

You don't need a big playerbase to see that adepts are broken units

You don't need a big playerbase to see that it's a beta where they are testing design more than creating a fully functional game. The more something is broken, the more it will be a focus and then you get more data.

Good god, dude.

So things can just be broken because its a Beta?

Yes.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Poopfeast 024
Profile Joined November 2014
Gambia437 Posts
September 19 2015 20:39 GMT
#480
On September 20 2015 05:38 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2015 05:37 Solar424 wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:33 Wintex wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:31 Solar424 wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:29 Wintex wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:28 Solar424 wrote:
Yeah this game isn't ready for release in 2 months. There's as much broken BS now as in Day 1 of the Beta.

The game is better if it's released a bit broken because a lot of playtesters in the real game and in an actually good environment will make balance easier to fix.

You don't need a big playerbase to see that adepts are broken units

You don't need a big playerbase to see that it's a beta where they are testing design more than creating a fully functional game. The more something is broken, the more it will be a focus and then you get more data.

Good god, dude.

So things can just be broken because its a Beta?

Yes.


ok wasn't aware of this rule yet. powerful reasoning
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