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Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
September 19 2015 20:40 GMT
#481
On September 20 2015 05:37 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2015 05:33 Wintex wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:31 Solar424 wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:29 Wintex wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:28 Solar424 wrote:
Yeah this game isn't ready for release in 2 months. There's as much broken BS now as in Day 1 of the Beta.

The game is better if it's released a bit broken because a lot of playtesters in the real game and in an actually good environment will make balance easier to fix.

You don't need a big playerbase to see that adepts are broken units

You don't need a big playerbase to see that it's a beta where they are testing design more than creating a fully functional game. The more something is broken, the more it will be a focus and then you get more data.

Good god, dude.

So things can just be broken because its a Beta?


I don't know what you expect from a beta product really.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 19 2015 20:40 GMT
#482
On September 20 2015 05:38 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2015 05:37 Solar424 wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:33 Wintex wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:31 Solar424 wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:29 Wintex wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:28 Solar424 wrote:
Yeah this game isn't ready for release in 2 months. There's as much broken BS now as in Day 1 of the Beta.

The game is better if it's released a bit broken because a lot of playtesters in the real game and in an actually good environment will make balance easier to fix.

You don't need a big playerbase to see that adepts are broken units

You don't need a big playerbase to see that it's a beta where they are testing design more than creating a fully functional game. The more something is broken, the more it will be a focus and then you get more data.

Good god, dude.

So things can just be broken because its a Beta?

Yes.

If you don't want people to actually test the game, sure
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
September 19 2015 20:41 GMT
#483
On September 20 2015 05:39 Poopfeast 024 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2015 05:38 Aeromi wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:37 Solar424 wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:33 Wintex wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:31 Solar424 wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:29 Wintex wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:28 Solar424 wrote:
Yeah this game isn't ready for release in 2 months. There's as much broken BS now as in Day 1 of the Beta.

The game is better if it's released a bit broken because a lot of playtesters in the real game and in an actually good environment will make balance easier to fix.

You don't need a big playerbase to see that adepts are broken units

You don't need a big playerbase to see that it's a beta where they are testing design more than creating a fully functional game. The more something is broken, the more it will be a focus and then you get more data.

Good god, dude.

So things can just be broken because its a Beta?

Yes.


ok wasn't aware of this rule yet. powerful reasoning

A beta is to try things, of course the balance is going to be bad and some units are going to be useless or OP. It's going to be fixed and we all know that. We should just enjoy games and how people are developping strategies to abuse really/OP(?) units.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
September 19 2015 20:41 GMT
#484
--- Nuked ---
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 19 2015 20:42 GMT
#485
hero tank
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
September 19 2015 20:42 GMT
#486
On September 20 2015 05:40 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2015 05:38 Aeromi wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:37 Solar424 wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:33 Wintex wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:31 Solar424 wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:29 Wintex wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:28 Solar424 wrote:
Yeah this game isn't ready for release in 2 months. There's as much broken BS now as in Day 1 of the Beta.

The game is better if it's released a bit broken because a lot of playtesters in the real game and in an actually good environment will make balance easier to fix.

You don't need a big playerbase to see that adepts are broken units

You don't need a big playerbase to see that it's a beta where they are testing design more than creating a fully functional game. The more something is broken, the more it will be a focus and then you get more data.

Good god, dude.

So things can just be broken because its a Beta?

Yes.

If you don't want people to actually test the game, sure

Way to miss the point >_<. Making the newer units extra strong lets people 'actually test the game' much better. For example, Liberators pre-upgrade were pretty OP but because of that phase players were able to test the Liberatorar a ton.
TheWinks
Profile Joined July 2011
United States572 Posts
September 19 2015 20:42 GMT
#487
DRG/True must have thought the other built a bane nest or someone sent a drone to build it and the other accidentally cancelled it.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
September 19 2015 20:43 GMT
#488
On September 20 2015 05:40 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2015 05:37 Solar424 wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:33 Wintex wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:31 Solar424 wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:29 Wintex wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:28 Solar424 wrote:
Yeah this game isn't ready for release in 2 months. There's as much broken BS now as in Day 1 of the Beta.

The game is better if it's released a bit broken because a lot of playtesters in the real game and in an actually good environment will make balance easier to fix.

You don't need a big playerbase to see that adepts are broken units

You don't need a big playerbase to see that it's a beta where they are testing design more than creating a fully functional game. The more something is broken, the more it will be a focus and then you get more data.

Good god, dude.

So things can just be broken because its a Beta?


I don't know what you expect from a beta product really.

I expect Blizzard to attempt to balance the game instead of waiting for the game to be released.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
September 19 2015 20:43 GMT
#489
Of all the players here I'd think DRG/True would be the best
Neosteel Enthusiast
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
September 19 2015 20:43 GMT
#490
How can 2 people forget a baneling nest? ಠ_ಠ
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16848 Posts
September 19 2015 20:43 GMT
#491
yep honestly i think you guys bitching about op units in a beta in this thread either are trolls or fukin stupid HeHE
The Bomber boy
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
September 19 2015 20:44 GMT
#492
On September 20 2015 05:43 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2015 05:40 Tiaraju9 wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:37 Solar424 wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:33 Wintex wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:31 Solar424 wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:29 Wintex wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:28 Solar424 wrote:
Yeah this game isn't ready for release in 2 months. There's as much broken BS now as in Day 1 of the Beta.

The game is better if it's released a bit broken because a lot of playtesters in the real game and in an actually good environment will make balance easier to fix.

You don't need a big playerbase to see that adepts are broken units

You don't need a big playerbase to see that it's a beta where they are testing design more than creating a fully functional game. The more something is broken, the more it will be a focus and then you get more data.

Good god, dude.

So things can just be broken because its a Beta?


I don't know what you expect from a beta product really.

I expect Blizzard to attempt to balance the game instead of waiting for the game to be released.

It's not like they did at least 15 balance change since the beta has been launched.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 19 2015 20:45 GMT
#493
On September 20 2015 05:42 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2015 05:40 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:38 Aeromi wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:37 Solar424 wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:33 Wintex wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:31 Solar424 wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:29 Wintex wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:28 Solar424 wrote:
Yeah this game isn't ready for release in 2 months. There's as much broken BS now as in Day 1 of the Beta.

The game is better if it's released a bit broken because a lot of playtesters in the real game and in an actually good environment will make balance easier to fix.

You don't need a big playerbase to see that adepts are broken units

You don't need a big playerbase to see that it's a beta where they are testing design more than creating a fully functional game. The more something is broken, the more it will be a focus and then you get more data.

Good god, dude.

So things can just be broken because its a Beta?

Yes.

If you don't want people to actually test the game, sure

Way to miss the point >_<. Making the newer units extra strong lets people 'actually test the game' much better. For example, Liberators pre-upgrade were pretty OP but because of that phase players were able to test the Liberatorar a ton.

No you miss the point, it is fine to have op units for a short amount of time because of your reasoning, but when it is pretty clear that something simply is too strong and you don't do anything about it then it's basically a waste of time.
But wasting time is exactly what blizzard did all beta, so i am not even surprised.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16848 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-19 20:46:22
September 19 2015 20:45 GMT
#494
LOL DRG

EDIT 133337 post He HE
The Bomber boy
AbuntuGuntu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1972 Posts
September 19 2015 20:45 GMT
#495
On September 20 2015 05:43 Wintex wrote:
yep honestly i think you guys bitching about op units in a beta in this thread either are trolls or fukin stupid HeHE

Pretty funny to read all the salt though lol
Poopfeast 024
Profile Joined November 2014
Gambia437 Posts
September 19 2015 20:45 GMT
#496
On September 20 2015 05:41 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2015 05:39 Poopfeast 024 wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:38 Aeromi wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:37 Solar424 wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:33 Wintex wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:31 Solar424 wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:29 Wintex wrote:
On September 20 2015 05:28 Solar424 wrote:
Yeah this game isn't ready for release in 2 months. There's as much broken BS now as in Day 1 of the Beta.

The game is better if it's released a bit broken because a lot of playtesters in the real game and in an actually good environment will make balance easier to fix.

You don't need a big playerbase to see that adepts are broken units

You don't need a big playerbase to see that it's a beta where they are testing design more than creating a fully functional game. The more something is broken, the more it will be a focus and then you get more data.

Good god, dude.

So things can just be broken because its a Beta?

Yes.


ok wasn't aware of this rule yet. powerful reasoning

A beta is to try things, of course the balance is going to be bad and some units are going to be useless or OP. It's going to be fixed and we all know that. We should just enjoy games and how people are developping strategies to abuse really/OP(?) units.


yeah this would work if adepts had been introduced 1 week ago. or if they would have been touched in the recent patches.

they are unchanged for a while, 8 out of 10 pvt games is adept rush, and they have ridiculous stats.
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
September 19 2015 20:45 GMT
#497
Loving those segments, just wanted to say that.
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17737 Posts
September 19 2015 20:45 GMT
#498
are MC and Huk the only ones who rated each other highly? lol, maybe that's why they're doing so well, they're actually a team lol
"Expert" mods4ever.com
IceBerrY
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany220 Posts
September 19 2015 20:46 GMT
#499
I am dying, this interviews are just fantastic!
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
September 19 2015 20:47 GMT
#500
Dongraegu so funny.

I wonder how accurate the translations are
Neosteel Enthusiast
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