[WCS] Ro32 Group G - Season 3 2015 - Page 47

On August 28 2015 04:37 Tenks wrote:


Are we pretending like roach/bane all-ins never existed? Zerg has strong cheese as well.

On August 28 2015 04:42 Tenks wrote:



There is absolutely no truth. If you are good at SC you are aware you are playing with limited information and you are trying to fill in certain blanks. You need to be aware of where the blanks exist. Often times they are more important than what you know. If you fill in blanks and present them to yourself as a certainty that is a poor mindset. What you do NOT know is often times more important than what you DO know. IdrA's issue was constantly thinking he was playing with a full picture of the game state at all points in time. But you are not. When he read the situation correctly yes he was a very good mechanical player who could defeat most. But he was far from the best at reading game state and interpreting the situation accurately which was ultimately his downfall. Worst part is he didn't realize that was a major problem.

On August 28 2015 04:48 showstealer1829 wrote:


It wasn't presented as an example of Mvp's playstyle. It was presented to counter the argument that only one race allows you to succeed with early game bullshit

On August 28 2015 04:48 Aocowns wrote:

Idra thought it too much, but there definitely is a fair chance of many games on ladder being lost at the highest level simply because your opponent did something stupid and threw your read off. ZvZ, opponent forgot an overlord and his ling flood is late. You know the proper timing for a ling flood and just go into drones with minimal defense because there was no indication. Ling flood comes at a late and bad timing and voila, you just got autismed

On August 28 2015 04:50 brickrd wrote:
there's no proper timing for a ling flood. many players bank lings and do them later specifically to mindgame, and it works. that's why you check drone counts with ling pokes and play safe unless you want to die to attacks

On August 28 2015 04:48 Aocowns wrote:

Idra thought it too much, but there definitely is a fair chance of many games on ladder being lost at the highest level simply because your opponent did something stupid and threw your read off. ZvZ, opponent forgot an overlord and his ling flood is late. You know the proper timing for a ling flood and just go into drones with minimal defense because there was no indication. Ling flood comes at a late and bad timing and voila, you just got autismed

On August 28 2015 04:52 Aocowns wrote:

Yeah I guess, was just the first type of example that came to mind. Either way, shit like that does happen, and plenty more players have framed it like that besides Idra

On August 28 2015 04:48 showstealer1829 wrote:


It wasn't presented as an example of Mvp's playstyle. It was presented to counter the argument that only one race allows you to succeed with early game bullshit