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RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
August 27 2015 19:36 GMT
#901
On August 28 2015 04:34 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 04:33 kaykoose wrote:
It's dumb that people think there is a "right" way to play...

the Artosis/Idra mentality

There is a difference between thinking there is a right way to play and thinking that one race has idiotic mechanics that allow for some really coinflippy plays.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
August 27 2015 19:37 GMT
#902
On August 28 2015 04:36 joshie0808 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 04:31 RaFox17 wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:30 Tenks wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:29 KingAlphard wrote:
I don't think I want to play sc2 anymore after this series. Sorry but if this game worked properly hitman wouldn't even qualify for challenger.


The game is not about a executing your offensive strategy properly? I'm pretty sure the idea here is to kill all the structures not race to get 70 workers and mine out the map.

It´s more about the fact that theres one race that allows you to succeed with only early game bullshit. There´s no successful pure cheese zerg´s or terrans anywhere near the top.


Zerg.. well.. Zerg is zerg haha.


Are we pretending like roach/bane all-ins never existed? Zerg has strong cheese as well.
Wat
Cluster__
Profile Joined September 2013
United States328 Posts
August 27 2015 19:37 GMT
#903
Hitman is going all the way
Liquid`Snute, AcerScarlett, ROOTCatZ, MC, Maru, Soulkey, Losira
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
August 27 2015 19:38 GMT
#904
On August 28 2015 04:35 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 04:34 Shellshock wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:33 kaykoose wrote:
It's dumb that people think there is a "right" way to play...

the Artosis/Idra mentality


The "I lost because you don't know how to play". I love it.

i tuned into idras stream once ever and i immediately saw him type, verbatim:

"the only reason you're winning is because you're doing something that's bad and i thought you would do something a good player would do"
TL+ Member
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
August 27 2015 19:39 GMT
#905
On August 28 2015 04:31 RaFox17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 04:30 Tenks wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:29 KingAlphard wrote:
I don't think I want to play sc2 anymore after this series. Sorry but if this game worked properly hitman wouldn't even qualify for challenger.


The game is not about a executing your offensive strategy properly? I'm pretty sure the idea here is to kill all the structures not race to get 70 workers and mine out the map.

It´s more about the fact that theres one race that allows you to succeed with only early game bullshit. There´s no successful pure cheese zerg´s or terrans anywhere near the top.



Bets?

There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
August 27 2015 19:39 GMT
#906
On August 28 2015 04:38 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 04:35 Tiaraju9 wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:34 Shellshock wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:33 kaykoose wrote:
It's dumb that people think there is a "right" way to play...

the Artosis/Idra mentality


The "I lost because you don't know how to play". I love it.

i tuned into idras stream once ever and i immediately saw him type, verbatim:

"the only reason you're winning is because you're doing something that's bad and i thought you would do something a good player would do"


Jokes aside, there is a lot of truth in that.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 27 2015 19:40 GMT
#907
Essentially that's why I wouldn't have offered the handshake to Elazer: he was probably taking it poorly after losing because of something he didn't do well.
kiss kiss fall in love
JabuSeika
Profile Joined February 2014
United States607 Posts
August 27 2015 19:41 GMT
#908
America loves a good underdog story.

Hitman probably made a lot of fans today.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 27 2015 19:41 GMT
#909
On August 28 2015 04:41 JabuSeika wrote:
America loves a good underdog story.

Hitman probably made a lot of fans today.

And a lot of salt, so I'm also pretty satisfied.
kiss kiss fall in love
joshie0808
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-27 19:42:35
August 27 2015 19:42 GMT
#910
On August 28 2015 04:39 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 04:38 brickrd wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:35 Tiaraju9 wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:34 Shellshock wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:33 kaykoose wrote:
It's dumb that people think there is a "right" way to play...

the Artosis/Idra mentality


The "I lost because you don't know how to play". I love it.

i tuned into idras stream once ever and i immediately saw him type, verbatim:

"the only reason you're winning is because you're doing something that's bad and i thought you would do something a good player would do"


Jokes aside, there is a lot of truth in that.


Yes, but doing something bad means that theres a weakness to that bad thing you're doing. Thats why its bad. Its the better player's fault for not scouting and exploiting it. How can they think they're the better player if they don't even react?

You watch Life (or MC or Parting) and you see how they jumps at weakness at a moments time. Idra could never be top tier because he was always held back by his rigid style and lack of flexibility.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 27 2015 19:42 GMT
#911
You know what's great ? Has and Hitman are 18 and 19 years old. Imagine the potential.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5598 Posts
August 27 2015 19:42 GMT
#912
So sad about China, I'm pretty sure iA's record will be better than the others' combined. XiGua is kind of like their Sen, consistently inconsistent.
don't wall off against random
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-27 19:42:50
August 27 2015 19:42 GMT
#913
On August 28 2015 04:39 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 04:38 brickrd wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:35 Tiaraju9 wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:34 Shellshock wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:33 kaykoose wrote:
It's dumb that people think there is a "right" way to play...

the Artosis/Idra mentality


The "I lost because you don't know how to play". I love it.

i tuned into idras stream once ever and i immediately saw him type, verbatim:

"the only reason you're winning is because you're doing something that's bad and i thought you would do something a good player would do"


Jokes aside, there is a lot of truth in that.



There is absolutely no truth. If you are good at SC you are aware you are playing with limited information and you are trying to fill in certain blanks. You need to be aware of where the blanks exist. Often times they are more important than what you know. If you fill in blanks and present them to yourself as a certainty that is a poor mindset. What you do NOT know is often times more important than what you DO know. IdrA's issue was constantly thinking he was playing with a full picture of the game state at all points in time. But you are not. When he read the situation correctly yes he was a very good mechanical player who could defeat most. But he was far from the best at reading game state and interpreting the situation accurately which was ultimately his downfall. Worst part is he didn't realize that was a major problem.
Wat
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
August 27 2015 19:43 GMT
#914
On August 28 2015 04:39 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 04:38 brickrd wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:35 Tiaraju9 wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:34 Shellshock wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:33 kaykoose wrote:
It's dumb that people think there is a "right" way to play...

the Artosis/Idra mentality


The "I lost because you don't know how to play". I love it.

i tuned into idras stream once ever and i immediately saw him type, verbatim:

"the only reason you're winning is because you're doing something that's bad and i thought you would do something a good player would do"


Jokes aside, there is a lot of truth in that.

yes, there's truth in the fact that you lose to unexpected builds when you assume your opponent is playing standard, i agree

good thing you don't have to assume that
TL+ Member
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5598 Posts
August 27 2015 19:43 GMT
#915
On August 28 2015 04:42 Boucot wrote:
You know what's great ? Has and Hitman are 18 and 19 years old. Imagine the potential.

The future is in cheese!
don't wall off against random
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5598 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-27 19:43:44
August 27 2015 19:43 GMT
#916

don't wall off against random
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
August 27 2015 19:43 GMT
#917
On August 28 2015 04:41 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 04:41 JabuSeika wrote:
America loves a good underdog story.

Hitman probably made a lot of fans today.

And a lot of salt, so I'm also pretty satisfied.

Seriously salty. I seldom see so much hate on the big book of Protoss BS, but one NA Ladder hero shows he's done his reading, and we get bogged down in, shoulds, and doesn't deserves.
stardog
Profile Joined August 2011
556 Posts
August 27 2015 19:43 GMT
#918
On August 28 2015 04:42 Boucot wrote:
You know what's great ? Has and Hitman are 18 and 19 years old. Imagine the potential.

Isn't Elazer like 17?
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
August 27 2015 19:44 GMT
#919
On August 28 2015 04:39 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 04:31 RaFox17 wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:30 Tenks wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:29 KingAlphard wrote:
I don't think I want to play sc2 anymore after this series. Sorry but if this game worked properly hitman wouldn't even qualify for challenger.


The game is not about a executing your offensive strategy properly? I'm pretty sure the idea here is to kill all the structures not race to get 70 workers and mine out the map.

It´s more about the fact that theres one race that allows you to succeed with only early game bullshit. There´s no successful pure cheese zerg´s or terrans anywhere near the top.



Bets?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE59uz9z4Qo

Yeah, that one game is an example of Mvp's entire playstyle.
Ppjack
Profile Joined March 2015
Belgium489 Posts
August 27 2015 19:45 GMT
#920
When starcraft becomes hearthstone-like. Grab a hunter (Protoss), launch ladder game, face for 3 minutes. Look the results. Launch another game.

I am crying.
<;o)
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