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HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
April 25 2015 11:16 GMT
#821
On April 25 2015 20:10 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2015 20:06 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Big mistake making thors before tanks. SkyHigh should have an idea that a roach timing might be coming


What is the theory behind going straight hellbat/thor? Like everytime I see that I just think "nice, just do a roch timing and it's a freewin". Guess it's just fear of mutas? Still 4 thors that early don't do anything really. Even lots of banelings to kill the helbats with a ling flood behind it cleans that up.

Guess that game was just pretty over anyway, since the hellbat push did nothing at all.

lol
That was a very slow trollbat timing they had almost the same worker count after it.
A small 8 trollbat timing like that isn't too costly just armory + extra hellions. 350 minerals and 100 gas?
He lost cause he didn't properly scout the gasses at the third, nobody would go for a lot of mutas without 5th and 6th gasses and vs a roach all in he can just pull his third back for a while, if he is still scared of mutas.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
April 25 2015 11:16 GMT
#822
FFS.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 25 2015 11:16 GMT
#823
On April 25 2015 20:15 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2015 20:14 TheDwf wrote:
On April 25 2015 20:10 Musicus wrote:
On April 25 2015 20:06 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Big mistake making thors before tanks. SkyHigh should have an idea that a roach timing might be coming


What is the theory behind going straight hellbat/thor? Like everytime I see that I just think "nice, just do a roch timing and it's a freewin". Guess it's just fear of mutas? Still 4 thors that early don't do anything really. Even lots of banelings to kill the helbats with a ling flood behind it cleans that up.

The theory is that you need 2-3 Thors to secure your third, possibly 4 if Zerg commits a bit more to mutas.

or a bunch of turrets, which you can't have if you have to reproduce 10-15hellions.

Turrets themselves have to be secured during their construction
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
April 25 2015 11:17 GMT
#824
On April 25 2015 20:16 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2015 20:15 Big J wrote:
On April 25 2015 20:14 TheDwf wrote:
On April 25 2015 20:10 Musicus wrote:
On April 25 2015 20:06 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Big mistake making thors before tanks. SkyHigh should have an idea that a roach timing might be coming


What is the theory behind going straight hellbat/thor? Like everytime I see that I just think "nice, just do a roch timing and it's a freewin". Guess it's just fear of mutas? Still 4 thors that early don't do anything really. Even lots of banelings to kill the helbats with a ling flood behind it cleans that up.

The theory is that you need 2-3 Thors to secure your third, possibly 4 if Zerg commits a bit more to mutas.

or a bunch of turrets, which you can't have if you have to reproduce 10-15hellions.

Turrets themselves have to be secured during their construction

yeah, but making 4thors when only 2techlabed factories were running at that point was quite overdoing it
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
April 25 2015 11:19 GMT
#825
So Nada was some kind of Maru back in days? Passed those times, I was fully in war3 so knew almost nothing about bw
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-25 11:20:52
April 25 2015 11:20 GMT
#826
On April 25 2015 20:19 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
So Nada was some kind of Maru back in days? Passed those times, I was fully in war3 so knew almost nothing about bw

He was a bonjwa. Think Mvp, but relevant for longer. NaDa is a fucking legend and he's streaming atm.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
April 25 2015 11:21 GMT
#827
Byul can carry this. He's strong enough.
Neosteel Enthusiast
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
April 25 2015 11:21 GMT
#828
On April 25 2015 20:19 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
So Nada was some kind of Maru back in days? Passed those times, I was fully in war3 so knew almost nothing about bw

Nada was one of the greatest. He played SC2 too btw
I Protoss winner, could it be?
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 25 2015 11:21 GMT
#829
On April 25 2015 20:20 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2015 20:19 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
So Nada was some kind of Maru back in days? Passed those times, I was fully in war3 so knew almost nothing about bw

He was a bonjwa. Think Mvp, but relevant for longer. NaDa is a fucking legend and he's streaming atm.

Nada is a very strong contender for GOAT in BW imo
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18733 Posts
April 25 2015 11:22 GMT
#830
On April 25 2015 20:19 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
So Nada was some kind of Maru back in days? Passed those times, I was fully in war3 so knew almost nothing about bw


greatest SC:BW player of all time in terms of achievements
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55593 Posts
April 25 2015 11:22 GMT
#831
Rogue's ZvZ is world class <.<
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3524 Posts
April 25 2015 11:22 GMT
#832
Byul all kill! There s no other thing for me to wish for!
Horang2 fan
IeZaeL
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy991 Posts
April 25 2015 11:22 GMT
#833
if this ends with a zvz im going to be a bit disappointed
Author of Coda and Eastwatch.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 25 2015 11:22 GMT
#834
On April 25 2015 20:22 WGT-Baal wrote:
Byul all kill! There s no other thing for me to wish for!

he can't all-kill because of herO
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
April 25 2015 11:22 GMT
#835
On April 25 2015 20:22 Elentos wrote:
Rogue's ZvZ is world class <.<


Unless the zerg is Shine
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
April 25 2015 11:23 GMT
#836
Unbreakable wrecking ball (pls)
I Protoss winner, could it be?
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
April 25 2015 11:23 GMT
#837
Rogue will rek Byul, too much pressure
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
April 25 2015 11:23 GMT
#838
On April 25 2015 20:21 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2015 20:20 Ej_ wrote:
On April 25 2015 20:19 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
So Nada was some kind of Maru back in days? Passed those times, I was fully in war3 so knew almost nothing about bw

He was a bonjwa. Think Mvp, but relevant for longer. NaDa is a fucking legend and he's streaming atm.

Nada is a very strong contender for GOAT in BW imo

Eh I still think that as a player it's Flash comfortably
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
April 25 2015 11:23 GMT
#839
Byuls only weakness is Terror. Rogue ain't a thing.
Neosteel Enthusiast
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-25 11:23:51
April 25 2015 11:23 GMT
#840
ByuL would have good chances to beat each of the remaining JinAir players once, close to 50% chance, but I don't see him beating all 3 of them
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