• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 13:04
CET 19:04
KST 03:04
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT5Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book16Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up0ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0224LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)44Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker15
StarCraft 2
General
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? StarCraft 1 & 2 Added to Xbox Game Pass
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) WardiTV Team League Season 10 PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
Ladder maps - how we can make blizz update them? TvZ is the most complete match up Brood War inspired Terran vs Zerg cinematic – feed Gypsy to Korea Which units you wish saw more use in the game?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread What Game makes you happy and stress free? Diablo 2 thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Search For Meaning in Vi…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2030 users

[SPL] Finals Round 2 2015 - Page 42

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 40 41 42 43 44 76 Next
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
April 25 2015 11:16 GMT
#821
On April 25 2015 20:10 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2015 20:06 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Big mistake making thors before tanks. SkyHigh should have an idea that a roach timing might be coming


What is the theory behind going straight hellbat/thor? Like everytime I see that I just think "nice, just do a roch timing and it's a freewin". Guess it's just fear of mutas? Still 4 thors that early don't do anything really. Even lots of banelings to kill the helbats with a ling flood behind it cleans that up.

Guess that game was just pretty over anyway, since the hellbat push did nothing at all.

lol
That was a very slow trollbat timing they had almost the same worker count after it.
A small 8 trollbat timing like that isn't too costly just armory + extra hellions. 350 minerals and 100 gas?
He lost cause he didn't properly scout the gasses at the third, nobody would go for a lot of mutas without 5th and 6th gasses and vs a roach all in he can just pull his third back for a while, if he is still scared of mutas.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
April 25 2015 11:16 GMT
#822
FFS.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 25 2015 11:16 GMT
#823
On April 25 2015 20:15 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2015 20:14 TheDwf wrote:
On April 25 2015 20:10 Musicus wrote:
On April 25 2015 20:06 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Big mistake making thors before tanks. SkyHigh should have an idea that a roach timing might be coming


What is the theory behind going straight hellbat/thor? Like everytime I see that I just think "nice, just do a roch timing and it's a freewin". Guess it's just fear of mutas? Still 4 thors that early don't do anything really. Even lots of banelings to kill the helbats with a ling flood behind it cleans that up.

The theory is that you need 2-3 Thors to secure your third, possibly 4 if Zerg commits a bit more to mutas.

or a bunch of turrets, which you can't have if you have to reproduce 10-15hellions.

Turrets themselves have to be secured during their construction
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
April 25 2015 11:17 GMT
#824
On April 25 2015 20:16 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2015 20:15 Big J wrote:
On April 25 2015 20:14 TheDwf wrote:
On April 25 2015 20:10 Musicus wrote:
On April 25 2015 20:06 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Big mistake making thors before tanks. SkyHigh should have an idea that a roach timing might be coming


What is the theory behind going straight hellbat/thor? Like everytime I see that I just think "nice, just do a roch timing and it's a freewin". Guess it's just fear of mutas? Still 4 thors that early don't do anything really. Even lots of banelings to kill the helbats with a ling flood behind it cleans that up.

The theory is that you need 2-3 Thors to secure your third, possibly 4 if Zerg commits a bit more to mutas.

or a bunch of turrets, which you can't have if you have to reproduce 10-15hellions.

Turrets themselves have to be secured during their construction

yeah, but making 4thors when only 2techlabed factories were running at that point was quite overdoing it
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
April 25 2015 11:19 GMT
#825
So Nada was some kind of Maru back in days? Passed those times, I was fully in war3 so knew almost nothing about bw
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-25 11:20:52
April 25 2015 11:20 GMT
#826
On April 25 2015 20:19 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
So Nada was some kind of Maru back in days? Passed those times, I was fully in war3 so knew almost nothing about bw

He was a bonjwa. Think Mvp, but relevant for longer. NaDa is a fucking legend and he's streaming atm.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
April 25 2015 11:21 GMT
#827
Byul can carry this. He's strong enough.
Neosteel Enthusiast
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
April 25 2015 11:21 GMT
#828
On April 25 2015 20:19 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
So Nada was some kind of Maru back in days? Passed those times, I was fully in war3 so knew almost nothing about bw

Nada was one of the greatest. He played SC2 too btw
I Protoss winner, could it be?
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 25 2015 11:21 GMT
#829
On April 25 2015 20:20 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2015 20:19 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
So Nada was some kind of Maru back in days? Passed those times, I was fully in war3 so knew almost nothing about bw

He was a bonjwa. Think Mvp, but relevant for longer. NaDa is a fucking legend and he's streaming atm.

Nada is a very strong contender for GOAT in BW imo
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18582 Posts
April 25 2015 11:22 GMT
#830
On April 25 2015 20:19 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
So Nada was some kind of Maru back in days? Passed those times, I was fully in war3 so knew almost nothing about bw


greatest SC:BW player of all time in terms of achievements
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
April 25 2015 11:22 GMT
#831
Rogue's ZvZ is world class <.<
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3438 Posts
April 25 2015 11:22 GMT
#832
Byul all kill! There s no other thing for me to wish for!
Horang2 fan
IeZaeL
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy991 Posts
April 25 2015 11:22 GMT
#833
if this ends with a zvz im going to be a bit disappointed
Author of Coda and Eastwatch.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 25 2015 11:22 GMT
#834
On April 25 2015 20:22 WGT-Baal wrote:
Byul all kill! There s no other thing for me to wish for!

he can't all-kill because of herO
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
April 25 2015 11:22 GMT
#835
On April 25 2015 20:22 Elentos wrote:
Rogue's ZvZ is world class <.<


Unless the zerg is Shine
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
April 25 2015 11:23 GMT
#836
Unbreakable wrecking ball (pls)
I Protoss winner, could it be?
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
April 25 2015 11:23 GMT
#837
Rogue will rek Byul, too much pressure
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
April 25 2015 11:23 GMT
#838
On April 25 2015 20:21 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2015 20:20 Ej_ wrote:
On April 25 2015 20:19 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
So Nada was some kind of Maru back in days? Passed those times, I was fully in war3 so knew almost nothing about bw

He was a bonjwa. Think Mvp, but relevant for longer. NaDa is a fucking legend and he's streaming atm.

Nada is a very strong contender for GOAT in BW imo

Eh I still think that as a player it's Flash comfortably
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
April 25 2015 11:23 GMT
#839
Byuls only weakness is Terror. Rogue ain't a thing.
Neosteel Enthusiast
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-25 11:23:51
April 25 2015 11:23 GMT
#840
ByuL would have good chances to beat each of the remaining JinAir players once, close to 50% chance, but I don't see him beating all 3 of them
Prev 1 40 41 42 43 44 76 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 56m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Grubby 2787
Harstem 425
elazer 146
BRAT_OK 94
UpATreeSC 74
MindelVK 19
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 29390
Sea 4549
Horang2 2438
Shuttle 741
Mini 464
ggaemo 168
Mong 143
Aegong 40
Rock 33
[sc1f]eonzerg 28
[ Show more ]
NaDa 10
Purpose 8
Dota 2
Gorgc6280
Dendi580
Counter-Strike
fl0m5102
Other Games
FrodaN1873
ceh9444
ToD198
Liquid`VortiX170
Hui .144
ArmadaUGS143
C9.Mang0107
Trikslyr63
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL34680
StarCraft 2
angryscii 13
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 30
• StrangeGG 7
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV338
League of Legends
• Jankos5362
• TFBlade955
Other Games
• Shiphtur349
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
6h 56m
Replay Cast
14h 56m
WardiTV Winter Champion…
17h 56m
Replay Cast
1d 5h
PiG Sty Festival
1d 14h
Maru vs Bunny
Classic vs SHIN
The PondCast
1d 15h
KCM Race Survival
1d 15h
WardiTV Winter Champion…
1d 17h
OSC
1d 17h
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Clem vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
Epic.LAN
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
herO vs NightMare
Reynor vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Epic.LAN
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
PiG Sty Festival
4 days
Serral vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

C-League Week 31
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: King of Kings
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026: China & Korea Invitational
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
WardiTV Winter 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.