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dazed25
Profile Joined August 2014
3566 Posts
February 22 2015 21:46 GMT
#2541
On February 23 2015 06:43 JacobShock wrote:
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On February 23 2015 06:39 Tenks wrote:
I don't know if what Has does can even be qualified as cheese anymore. He does non-standard proxy openers but if scouted he seems to know exactly how to react. The basic cheese definition is a strategy that only works if unscouted and clearly Has doesn't rely completely on the shroud of mystery with his openers. He is just a non-standard player not a cheesy player.


Regardless he allins pretty much every game, I guess it depends on your own definition of cheesy.


Maru is able to transition out of 2rax similarly. Even if it's all-in or cheesy the games are worth watching since they don't end at the failed all-in. It's up to the opponent to react accordingly and some of the best (most entertaining) games start from these wonky openings.
Zest, Rain, Life, Stats, Flash, PartinG, herO
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
February 22 2015 21:46 GMT
#2542
Has is cool. Cheesy as f..., but he's got game.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Molto2Vivace
Profile Joined December 2014
3 Posts
February 22 2015 21:46 GMT
#2543
lame.

no more interest in WCS
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
February 22 2015 21:47 GMT
#2544
A shame players are not forced to do losers interviews. Would give much more drama and stuff talking about.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
February 22 2015 21:47 GMT
#2545
On February 23 2015 06:42 KeksX wrote:
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On February 23 2015 06:41 SharkStarcraft wrote:
such classy tweets out of stephano, proving he's really a much better person than nani




For reference


Pathetic, even if I don't really like Naniwa, this is pathetic.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 22 2015 21:47 GMT
#2546
On February 23 2015 06:42 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
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On February 23 2015 06:40 GaliX wrote:
Ok I watched starcraft for the first time since 9 months and I am done with it again...
I thought it would worth watching the games since Naniwa is back but no. Just boring games for now.

A korean is start playing cheese only and win against naniwa in mostly boring short games?

gg no re. Maybe next season...

he's taiwanese and i don't know what you want from PvP.


What I want from PvP is exactly this, but with Psi Storms and Dark Templar.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
February 22 2015 21:47 GMT
#2547
If that Kane shit is true that's so dumb. Try to be classy and don't stoop to his old level. I know Naniwa has been a total dick to kane in the past but it's pretty much been mutual.
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
February 22 2015 21:47 GMT
#2548
On February 23 2015 06:46 dazed25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 06:43 JacobShock wrote:
On February 23 2015 06:39 Tenks wrote:
I don't know if what Has does can even be qualified as cheese anymore. He does non-standard proxy openers but if scouted he seems to know exactly how to react. The basic cheese definition is a strategy that only works if unscouted and clearly Has doesn't rely completely on the shroud of mystery with his openers. He is just a non-standard player not a cheesy player.


Regardless he allins pretty much every game, I guess it depends on your own definition of cheesy.


Maru is able to transition out of 2rax similarly. Even if it's all-in or cheesy the games are worth watching since they don't end at the failed all-in. It's up to the opponent to react accordingly and some of the best (most entertaining) games start from these wonky openings.

Some of the best games are produced by Swarm Hosts. Doesn't mean that those plays and Swarm Hosts are in general interesting.
kc2siq
Profile Joined April 2012
United States319 Posts
February 22 2015 21:47 GMT
#2549
On February 23 2015 06:44 dazed25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 06:42 KeksX wrote:
On February 23 2015 06:41 SharkStarcraft wrote:
such classy tweets out of stephano, proving he's really a much better person than nani


https://twitter.com/MD_Stephano/status/569612079663083522

For reference


So classy..

Meh Naniwa got outplayed completely by Serral and made some key mistakes against Has when he had advantages in both games. He's still very good and it was a feat by him to make it this far without a team and limited practice. Both the fans and haters are getting so carried away.


Coming as a Has fan. I think you're taking a bit away from Has.

In the first game of the second series, he mindgamed naniwa really well. You can see if when naniwa sent his phoenix back to Has natural thinking he could get some free pickoffs. In the last game, Has was never really behind (2 workers at most) because he knew how to perfectly transition out of it and didn't really commit to a crazy all in after getting scouted.
Byun, best player in the world!
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
February 22 2015 21:47 GMT
#2550
On February 23 2015 06:43 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
So uh, palais de la congres?

source ?
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
February 22 2015 21:48 GMT
#2551
Whatever drama it might ignite, that's pretty unclassy from Kane.
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Grizvok
Profile Joined August 2014
United States711 Posts
February 22 2015 21:48 GMT
#2552
On February 23 2015 06:43 Tenks wrote:
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On February 23 2015 06:42 Grizvok wrote:
On February 23 2015 06:40 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On February 23 2015 06:39 Ej_ wrote:
On February 23 2015 06:38 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On February 23 2015 06:38 Grizvok wrote:
On February 23 2015 06:36 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
this game is so random, little kids are advancing with horrible playstyles

both of them gonna be eliminated next round


Please as if Naniwa was ever going to make a deep run.


he could

in the meantime, on Earht 2...


u know that he's capable of? meanwhile what can u say about those two that advanced?


That Serral is really fucking strong and only 16 and destroyed Naniwa with straight up play. You are an idiot for thinking the Nydus was some ridiculous shot in the dark strategy.



I don't follow PvZ much at all but isn't Nydus play somewhat common these days in the matchup?


It isn't really common but against what Naniwa was doing it was an insanely good play. Nani was trying to abuse cliffs with his air composition and Serral just brought the fight straight to Nani in a few seconds time. It was so smart.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
February 22 2015 21:48 GMT
#2553
On February 23 2015 06:47 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 06:43 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
So uh, palais de la congres?

source ?

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JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-22 21:49:34
February 22 2015 21:49 GMT
#2554
Didnt Naniwa and Kane use to have respect for one another? back when Kane first just got to EU. I vaguely remember Naniwa calling Kane one of the best foreign zergs.
"Right on" - Morrow
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
February 22 2015 21:49 GMT
#2555
On February 23 2015 06:47 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 06:43 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
So uh, palais de la congres?

source ?

It's not that
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 22 2015 21:49 GMT
#2556
On February 23 2015 06:47 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 06:42 KeksX wrote:
On February 23 2015 06:41 SharkStarcraft wrote:
such classy tweets out of stephano, proving he's really a much better person than nani


https://twitter.com/MD_Stephano/status/569612079663083522

For reference


Pathetic, even if I don't really like Naniwa, this is pathetic.

No kidding. I hate Naniwa, and I'm really not liking how Kane is acting. I am usually a fan of the Canadian players... but Kane is making it really difficult.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
dazed25
Profile Joined August 2014
3566 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-22 21:51:09
February 22 2015 21:49 GMT
#2557
On February 23 2015 06:47 kc2siq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 06:44 dazed25 wrote:
On February 23 2015 06:42 KeksX wrote:
On February 23 2015 06:41 SharkStarcraft wrote:
such classy tweets out of stephano, proving he's really a much better person than nani


https://twitter.com/MD_Stephano/status/569612079663083522

For reference


So classy..

Meh Naniwa got outplayed completely by Serral and made some key mistakes against Has when he had advantages in both games. He's still very good and it was a feat by him to make it this far without a team and limited practice. Both the fans and haters are getting so carried away.


Coming as a Has fan. I think you're taking a bit away from Has.

In the first game of the second series, he mindgamed naniwa really well. You can see if when naniwa sent his phoenix back to Has natural thinking he could get some free pickoffs. In the last game, Has was never really behind (2 workers at most) because he knew how to perfectly transition out of it and didn't really commit to a crazy all in after getting scouted.


Oh Has was totally the better player in that final series. His ability to transition from a scouted proxy and failed oracle was great but Nani really squandered his advantages.

Even in the Suppy series Has was sick. Great at mindgames and mental fortitude. Some of the more emotional players could learn from him
Zest, Rain, Life, Stats, Flash, PartinG, herO
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
February 22 2015 21:49 GMT
#2558
On February 23 2015 06:47 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 06:42 KeksX wrote:
On February 23 2015 06:41 SharkStarcraft wrote:
such classy tweets out of stephano, proving he's really a much better person than nani


https://twitter.com/MD_Stephano/status/569612079663083522

For reference


Pathetic, even if I don't really like Naniwa, this is pathetic.

Pathetic is the right word idd. Make a joke if you have to but this is.. well.. pathetic
I Protoss winner, could it be?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 22 2015 21:50 GMT
#2559
HELLYEAH Naniwa is out please retire now again
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-22 21:50:54
February 22 2015 21:50 GMT
#2560
I thought he was a Has-been, but I was wrong.
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