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On February 23 2015 06:43 JacobShock wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2015 06:39 Tenks wrote: I don't know if what Has does can even be qualified as cheese anymore. He does non-standard proxy openers but if scouted he seems to know exactly how to react. The basic cheese definition is a strategy that only works if unscouted and clearly Has doesn't rely completely on the shroud of mystery with his openers. He is just a non-standard player not a cheesy player. Regardless he allins pretty much every game, I guess it depends on your own definition of cheesy.
Maru is able to transition out of 2rax similarly. Even if it's all-in or cheesy the games are worth watching since they don't end at the failed all-in. It's up to the opponent to react accordingly and some of the best (most entertaining) games start from these wonky openings.
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Has is cool. Cheesy as f..., but he's got game.
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lame.
no more interest in WCS
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A shame players are not forced to do losers interviews. Would give much more drama and stuff talking about.
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On February 23 2015 06:42 KeksX wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2015 06:41 SharkStarcraft wrote: such classy tweets out of stephano, proving he's really a much better person than nani For reference
Pathetic, even if I don't really like Naniwa, this is pathetic.
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On February 23 2015 06:42 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2015 06:40 GaliX wrote:Ok I watched starcraft for the first time since 9 months and I am done with it again... I thought it would worth watching the games since Naniwa is back but no. Just boring games for now. A korean is start playing cheese only and win against naniwa in mostly boring short games? gg no re. Maybe next season...  he's taiwanese and i don't know what you want from PvP.
What I want from PvP is exactly this, but with Psi Storms and Dark Templar.
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If that Kane shit is true that's so dumb. Try to be classy and don't stoop to his old level. I know Naniwa has been a total dick to kane in the past but it's pretty much been mutual.
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On February 23 2015 06:46 dazed25 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2015 06:43 JacobShock wrote:On February 23 2015 06:39 Tenks wrote: I don't know if what Has does can even be qualified as cheese anymore. He does non-standard proxy openers but if scouted he seems to know exactly how to react. The basic cheese definition is a strategy that only works if unscouted and clearly Has doesn't rely completely on the shroud of mystery with his openers. He is just a non-standard player not a cheesy player. Regardless he allins pretty much every game, I guess it depends on your own definition of cheesy. Maru is able to transition out of 2rax similarly. Even if it's all-in or cheesy the games are worth watching since they don't end at the failed all-in. It's up to the opponent to react accordingly and some of the best (most entertaining) games start from these wonky openings. Some of the best games are produced by Swarm Hosts. Doesn't mean that those plays and Swarm Hosts are in general interesting.
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On February 23 2015 06:44 dazed25 wrote:So classy.. Meh Naniwa got outplayed completely by Serral and made some key mistakes against Has when he had advantages in both games. He's still very good and it was a feat by him to make it this far without a team and limited practice. Both the fans and haters are getting so carried away.
Coming as a Has fan. I think you're taking a bit away from Has.
In the first game of the second series, he mindgamed naniwa really well. You can see if when naniwa sent his phoenix back to Has natural thinking he could get some free pickoffs. In the last game, Has was never really behind (2 workers at most) because he knew how to perfectly transition out of it and didn't really commit to a crazy all in after getting scouted.
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On February 23 2015 06:43 KingofdaHipHop wrote: So uh, palais de la congres? source ?
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Whatever drama it might ignite, that's pretty unclassy from Kane.
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On February 23 2015 06:43 Tenks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2015 06:42 Grizvok wrote:On February 23 2015 06:40 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 23 2015 06:39 Ej_ wrote:On February 23 2015 06:38 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On February 23 2015 06:38 Grizvok wrote:On February 23 2015 06:36 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: this game is so random, little kids are advancing with horrible playstyles
both of them gonna be eliminated next round Please as if Naniwa was ever going to make a deep run. he could in the meantime, on Earht 2... u know that he's capable of? meanwhile what can u say about those two that advanced? That Serral is really fucking strong and only 16 and destroyed Naniwa with straight up play. You are an idiot for thinking the Nydus was some ridiculous shot in the dark strategy. I don't follow PvZ much at all but isn't Nydus play somewhat common these days in the matchup?
It isn't really common but against what Naniwa was doing it was an insanely good play. Nani was trying to abuse cliffs with his air composition and Serral just brought the fight straight to Nani in a few seconds time. It was so smart.
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On February 23 2015 06:47 Makro wrote:source ? my dreams
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Didnt Naniwa and Kane use to have respect for one another? back when Kane first just got to EU. I vaguely remember Naniwa calling Kane one of the best foreign zergs.
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On February 23 2015 06:47 Makro wrote:source ? It's not that
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On February 23 2015 06:47 Musicus wrote:Pathetic, even if I don't really like Naniwa, this is pathetic. No kidding. I hate Naniwa, and I'm really not liking how Kane is acting. I am usually a fan of the Canadian players... but Kane is making it really difficult.
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On February 23 2015 06:47 kc2siq wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2015 06:44 dazed25 wrote:So classy.. Meh Naniwa got outplayed completely by Serral and made some key mistakes against Has when he had advantages in both games. He's still very good and it was a feat by him to make it this far without a team and limited practice. Both the fans and haters are getting so carried away. Coming as a Has fan. I think you're taking a bit away from Has. In the first game of the second series, he mindgamed naniwa really well. You can see if when naniwa sent his phoenix back to Has natural thinking he could get some free pickoffs. In the last game, Has was never really behind (2 workers at most) because he knew how to perfectly transition out of it and didn't really commit to a crazy all in after getting scouted.
Oh Has was totally the better player in that final series. His ability to transition from a scouted proxy and failed oracle was great but Nani really squandered his advantages.
Even in the Suppy series Has was sick. Great at mindgames and mental fortitude. Some of the more emotional players could learn from him
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On February 23 2015 06:47 Musicus wrote:Pathetic, even if I don't really like Naniwa, this is pathetic. Pathetic is the right word idd. Make a joke if you have to but this is.. well.. pathetic
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HELLYEAH Naniwa is out please retire now again
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I thought he was a Has-been, but I was wrong.
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