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Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
November 20 2014 10:07 GMT
#301
now that terrans build their first bunker miles away form the natural its almost impossible not to end up ahead as t
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-20 10:08:26
November 20 2014 10:07 GMT
#302
On November 20 2014 19:03 Gwavajuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 18:59 graNite wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:53 samurai80 wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:44 graNite wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:42 Keeemy wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:38 graNite wrote:
I want to remove moonglade from commentary... this accent annoys me so much. the "pröbe" omg

You complained about Demu's "accent" (HSC X) as well, right? Dude.


yes. i am full of hate. and i want decent commentary -.-

I love both Demuslim's and mOOnGLaDe's accents.


may as well be. i dont. would you also like a caster with a lisp?


Yeah go ahead, teach people how to speak their own language, you're not ridiculous at all...


i am not teaching anyone anything. i just want a clear voice to cast.

On November 20 2014 19:07 Tsubbi wrote:
now that terrans build their first bunker miles away form the natural its almost impossible not to end up ahead as t


as long as zergs still go for the hatch first after even scouting it.... why not pool hatch gas?
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 20 2014 10:08 GMT
#303
fuck sake want to watch a good ZvT and this bellend does a 2 rax
Zerg for Life
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
November 20 2014 10:08 GMT
#304
On November 20 2014 18:59 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 18:53 samurai80 wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:44 graNite wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:42 Keeemy wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:38 graNite wrote:
I want to remove moonglade from commentary... this accent annoys me so much. the "pröbe" omg

You complained about Demu's "accent" (HSC X) as well, right? Dude.


yes. i am full of hate. and i want decent commentary -.-

I love both Demuslim's and mOOnGLaDe's accents.


may as well be. i dont. would you also like a caster with a lisp?

There was one and it wasn't an issue (granted, he only did online events).
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 20 2014 10:09 GMT
#305
On November 20 2014 19:05 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 19:02 The_Templar wrote:
Hot6iX Cup RO16

(Z)Soulkey vs (T)sKyHigh
0-0


Map: Deadwing


Soulkey spawns in the top right
sKyHigh spawns in the bottom right

1:00
2rax in the upper center of the map from sKyHigh.
Soulkey goes hatchery first followed by a spawning pool.

2:00
Soulkey sees the 2rax instantly with an overlord.
Bunker starts from Skyhigh right under an overlord.
Soulkey pulls drones.

3:00
Zerglings finish.
Drones go towards the barracks?

4:00
Zerglings aren't able to be effective due to kiting + bunkers.
Spine finishes for Soulkey

5:00
Skyhigh building another bunker in Soulkey's natural. but now all of Soulkey's drones are trapped.
Zerglings surround and kill the bunker and drones get home.
Skyhigh continues to build marines at his proxy barracks.
Soulkey getting another spine at home while killing off marines from the proxy.
Skyhigh uses his barracks as a shield for his marines.
CC and 2 refineries start at home.

7:00 (Z)Soulkey 28 vs (T)sKyHigh 31
Third CC for Skyhigh.
Soulkey is working on the depots of Skyhigh.
Drones for Soulkey.
Skyhigh getting a factory.
Two more barracks being queued for Skyhigh.

8:00 (Z)Soulkey 43 vs (T)sKyHigh 35
Soulkey spreading creep towards his third.
Spines are repositioned.
Skyhigh still has 8 marines poking around.
4 zerglings get into Skyhigh's natural.

9:00 (Z)Soulkey 52 vs (T)sKyHigh 42
Zerglings work on a supply depot in the main of Skyhigh but get cleaned up by the first hellion.
Zergling speed is finishing.
Lair starts.
Stim and +1/1 for Skyhigh.

10:00 (Z)Soulkey 60 vs (T)sKyHigh 54
Baneling nest finishes for Soulkey.
Skyhigh moving out with his hellions.
Soulkey tries to get a surround with his zerglings but fails.
Two evolution chambers for Soulkey.
Soulkey has finished his third.
Spire for Soulkey.
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graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
November 20 2014 10:09 GMT
#306
On November 20 2014 19:08 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 18:59 graNite wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:53 samurai80 wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:44 graNite wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:42 Keeemy wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:38 graNite wrote:
I want to remove moonglade from commentary... this accent annoys me so much. the "pröbe" omg

You complained about Demu's "accent" (HSC X) as well, right? Dude.


yes. i am full of hate. and i want decent commentary -.-

I love both Demuslim's and mOOnGLaDe's accents.


may as well be. i dont. would you also like a caster with a lisp?

There was one and it wasn't an issue (granted, he only did online events).


the point i was trying to make is: let people with a clear voice to the casting.
you also dont want a blind person do be your bus driver, do yo?
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
November 20 2014 10:09 GMT
#307
That marine positioning
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
November 20 2014 10:09 GMT
#308
On November 20 2014 19:07 Tsubbi wrote:
now that terrans build their first bunker miles away form the natural its almost impossible not to end up ahead as t

When will we finally see a bunker build time change?!!!
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
November 20 2014 10:09 GMT
#309
On November 20 2014 19:07 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 19:07 Tsubbi wrote:
now that terrans build their first bunker miles away form the natural its almost impossible not to end up ahead as t


as long as zergs still go for the hatch first after even scouting it.... why not pool hatch gas?


hatch first is the best counter. Else you can't build spines.
Gas is nice if you want to counterbust, but in tough 2rax situations as this one it kills you, so much less money for lings/spines!
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
November 20 2014 10:10 GMT
#310
On November 20 2014 19:09 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 19:08 y0su wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:59 graNite wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:53 samurai80 wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:44 graNite wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:42 Keeemy wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:38 graNite wrote:
I want to remove moonglade from commentary... this accent annoys me so much. the "pröbe" omg

You complained about Demu's "accent" (HSC X) as well, right? Dude.


yes. i am full of hate. and i want decent commentary -.-

I love both Demuslim's and mOOnGLaDe's accents.


may as well be. i dont. would you also like a caster with a lisp?

There was one and it wasn't an issue (granted, he only did online events).


the point i was trying to make is: let people with a clear voice to the casting.
you also dont want a blind person do be your bus driver, do yo?

Perfect analogy there
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graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
November 20 2014 10:10 GMT
#311
On November 20 2014 19:09 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 19:07 graNite wrote:
On November 20 2014 19:07 Tsubbi wrote:
now that terrans build their first bunker miles away form the natural its almost impossible not to end up ahead as t


as long as zergs still go for the hatch first after even scouting it.... why not pool hatch gas?


hatch first is the best counter. Else you can't build spines.
Gas is nice if you want to counterbust, but in tough 2rax situations as this one it kills you, so much less money for lings/spines!


what do you need the spines for if you have more lings than marines?
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
November 20 2014 10:10 GMT
#312
On November 20 2014 19:09 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 19:07 Tsubbi wrote:
now that terrans build their first bunker miles away form the natural its almost impossible not to end up ahead as t

When will we finally see a bunker build time change?!!!


blizzards elegant solution is to up the starting worker count to 12
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 20 2014 10:11 GMT
#313
On November 20 2014 19:09 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 19:05 The_Templar wrote:
On November 20 2014 19:02 The_Templar wrote:
Hot6iX Cup RO16

(Z)Soulkey vs (T)sKyHigh
0-0


Map: Deadwing


Soulkey spawns in the top right
sKyHigh spawns in the bottom right

1:00
2rax in the upper center of the map from sKyHigh.
Soulkey goes hatchery first followed by a spawning pool.

2:00
Soulkey sees the 2rax instantly with an overlord.
Bunker starts from Skyhigh right under an overlord.
Soulkey pulls drones.

3:00
Zerglings finish.
Drones go towards the barracks?

4:00
Zerglings aren't able to be effective due to kiting + bunkers.
Spine finishes for Soulkey

5:00
Skyhigh building another bunker in Soulkey's natural. but now all of Soulkey's drones are trapped.
Zerglings surround and kill the bunker and drones get home.
Skyhigh continues to build marines at his proxy barracks.
Soulkey getting another spine at home while killing off marines from the proxy.
Skyhigh uses his barracks as a shield for his marines.
CC and 2 refineries start at home.

7:00 (Z)Soulkey 28 vs (T)sKyHigh 31
Third CC for Skyhigh.
Soulkey is working on the depots of Skyhigh.
Drones for Soulkey.
Skyhigh getting a factory.
Two more barracks being queued for Skyhigh.

8:00 (Z)Soulkey 43 vs (T)sKyHigh 35
Soulkey spreading creep towards his third.
Spines are repositioned.
Skyhigh still has 8 marines poking around.
4 zerglings get into Skyhigh's natural.

9:00 (Z)Soulkey 52 vs (T)sKyHigh 42
Zerglings work on a supply depot in the main of Skyhigh but get cleaned up by the first hellion.
Zergling speed is finishing.
Lair starts.
Stim and +1/1 for Skyhigh.

10:00 (Z)Soulkey 60 vs (T)sKyHigh 54
Baneling nest finishes for Soulkey.
Skyhigh moving out with his hellions.
Soulkey tries to get a surround with his zerglings but fails.
Two evolution chambers for Soulkey.
Soulkey has finished his third.
Spire for Soulkey.

12:00 (Z)Soulkey 81 vs (T)sKyHigh 80
+1/1 starts for Soulkey.
Armory for Skyhigh.
Soulkey working on Skyhigh's backdoor's backdoor rocks.
Soulkey taking a fourth base.
Turrets for Skyhigh.

13:00 (Z)Soulkey 105 vs (T)sKyHigh 105
Soulkey getting 8 mutalisks.
Viking goes after an overlord, killing it.
Medivacs and marines for Skyhigh.
Mutalisks finish.
Baneling speed on the way.
Soulkey working on Skyhigh's backdoor rocks now.
Skyhigh moving across the map with hellbats and marines.
Soulkey gets into the main and starts attacking a reactor.
Banelings detonate on a lot of hellbats and Skyhigh is forced to retreat.
Both medivacs fall to mutalisks.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-20 10:13:34
November 20 2014 10:12 GMT
#314
On November 20 2014 19:09 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 19:08 y0su wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:59 graNite wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:53 samurai80 wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:44 graNite wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:42 Keeemy wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:38 graNite wrote:
I want to remove moonglade from commentary... this accent annoys me so much. the "pröbe" omg

You complained about Demu's "accent" (HSC X) as well, right? Dude.


yes. i am full of hate. and i want decent commentary -.-

I love both Demuslim's and mOOnGLaDe's accents.


may as well be. i dont. would you also like a caster with a lisp?

There was one and it wasn't an issue (granted, he only did online events).


the point i was trying to make is: let people with a clear voice to the casting.
you also dont want a blind person do be your bus driver, do yo?

Hahaha oh wow.

So, you also hate ToD and Rotti?
Hello
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
November 20 2014 10:12 GMT
#315
On November 20 2014 19:10 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 19:09 Jono7272 wrote:
On November 20 2014 19:07 Tsubbi wrote:
now that terrans build their first bunker miles away form the natural its almost impossible not to end up ahead as t

When will we finally see a bunker build time change?!!!


blizzards elegant solution is to up the starting worker count to 12


we terrans will invent the 13 13 13 :D
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
November 20 2014 10:12 GMT
#316
It's not as if Moonglade has a thick accent...
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
November 20 2014 10:12 GMT
#317
On November 20 2014 19:10 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 19:09 Jono7272 wrote:
On November 20 2014 19:07 Tsubbi wrote:
now that terrans build their first bunker miles away form the natural its almost impossible not to end up ahead as t

When will we finally see a bunker build time change?!!!


blizzards elegant solution is to up the starting worker count to 12

3 rax!
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
November 20 2014 10:12 GMT
#318
Tuned in just in time (in the LR) to catch a pretty ridiculous discussion. I'm awake now.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
November 20 2014 10:12 GMT
#319
On November 20 2014 19:10 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 19:09 Big J wrote:
On November 20 2014 19:07 graNite wrote:
On November 20 2014 19:07 Tsubbi wrote:
now that terrans build their first bunker miles away form the natural its almost impossible not to end up ahead as t


as long as zergs still go for the hatch first after even scouting it.... why not pool hatch gas?


hatch first is the best counter. Else you can't build spines.
Gas is nice if you want to counterbust, but in tough 2rax situations as this one it kills you, so much less money for lings/spines!


what do you need the spines for if you have more lings than marines?


the bunker is going to finish, lings dont help at all, which is why 14 gas 14 pool loses even harder to 2 rax
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
November 20 2014 10:13 GMT
#320
On November 20 2014 19:12 Heartland wrote:
It's not as if Moonglade has a thick accent...

I think it's more about the listener.
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