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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28491 Posts
September 24 2014 20:52 GMT
#541
On September 25 2014 05:38 xyzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
edit: No idea where your numbers are coming from, even if you include the previous two tournaments (Terran wins before the patch) it's 6/9 not 6/8.

Yeah it's a typo. 6/9. Why are we supposed to act like we're not seeing a trend? Is this an issue we're supposed to be all hush hush about? Is it a sensitive subject that in a 3 race game a trend has been started that one race wins 2 out of every 3 tournaments and places second in the rest? Can we attribute this to only variance?

We can talk about how Zergs need to shape up their game and how Protoss need to adapt their strategies, but we don't need to act like Terran players just somehow got more skilled either. They got help from Blizzard, and the results are showing. Why is this such an offensive idea?

Most will have noted the trend. Just shape up your posting and don't whine
Oh no, wait, I'm just a whiner. The skilled players just happen to play Terran.

out of the blue is not helping your case
I Protoss winner, could it be?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25875 Posts
September 24 2014 20:52 GMT
#542
On September 25 2014 05:49 JoeCool wrote:
Wow 70.600 viewers for Hearthstone. O_o

Not bad. Don't really get the appeal of it as an eSport but Blizzard are on to a winner with that.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
September 24 2014 20:53 GMT
#543
--- Nuked ---
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 24 2014 20:54 GMT
#544
On September 25 2014 05:52 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 05:49 JoeCool wrote:
Wow 70.600 viewers for Hearthstone. O_o

Not bad. Don't really get the appeal of it as an eSport but Blizzard are on to a winner with that.

I think although there is an element of luck, I like to watch it because it has entertainment value (see people watching poker) and also has Warcraft stuff!

Although I haven't played in awhile because I didn't buy Naxx and those cards seem necessary to do well nowadays. I don't like Pay to Win stuff D:
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 24 2014 20:54 GMT
#545
On September 25 2014 05:53 SatedSC2 wrote:
Real Motherships are relatively common in PvP. I don't know why they are so shocked...


Hasuobs becoming a real caster now. Brings a tear to the eye.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 24 2014 20:55 GMT
#546
On September 25 2014 05:54 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 05:52 Wombat_NI wrote:
On September 25 2014 05:49 JoeCool wrote:
Wow 70.600 viewers for Hearthstone. O_o

Not bad. Don't really get the appeal of it as an eSport but Blizzard are on to a winner with that.

I think although there is an element of luck, I like to watch it because it has entertainment value (see people watching poker) and also has Warcraft stuff!

Although I haven't played in awhile because I didn't buy Naxx and those cards seem necessary to do well nowadays. I don't like Pay to Win stuff D:


Just play arena. That's basically infinite gold.
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xyzz
Profile Joined January 2012
567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-24 20:56:00
September 24 2014 20:55 GMT
#547
On September 25 2014 05:52 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 05:49 JoeCool wrote:
Wow 70.600 viewers for Hearthstone. O_o

Not bad. Don't really get the appeal of it as an eSport but Blizzard are on to a winner with that.

Calling that game an e-sport is an affront to gaming. The skill cap is so abysmally low that the game plays itself. The design team even says as much in the interviews: The choices the players have during games is an illusion, and that makes it attractive to players of all (and non-existent) interest and skill levels. Anyway I rather talk about Starcraft, where real skill exists, despite the poor state of balance.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25875 Posts
September 24 2014 20:55 GMT
#548
On September 25 2014 05:49 xyzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 05:46 imrusty269 wrote:
On September 25 2014 05:41 xyzz wrote:
On September 25 2014 05:40 Garsecg wrote:
On September 25 2014 05:38 xyzz wrote:
edit: No idea where your numbers are coming from, even if you include the previous two tournaments (Terran wins before the patch) it's 6/9 not 6/8.

Yeah it's a typo. 6/9. Why are we supposed to act like we're not seeing a trend? Is this an issue we're supposed to be all hush hush about? Is it a sensitive subject that in a 3 race game a trend has been started that one race wins 2 out of every 3 tournaments and places second in the rest? Can we attribute this to only variance?

We can talk about how Zergs need to shape up their game and how Protoss need to adapt their strategies, but we don't need to act like Terran players just somehow got more skilled either. They got help from Blizzard, and the results are showing. Why is this such an offensive idea?


I don't think it's the idea that's offensive, I think it's your bias towards the idea.

I'm not so much biased towards the Terran pros who now enjoy success, because they have all certainly been through tough times too and kept playing, than against the general idea that the game is in a good place. It most certainly isn't, because it isn't balanced.


Show us similar posts in the protoss era please

You have dozens of those posts in all the 'designated balance threads' at every forum that exists. I'm sure you can find the ones posted on teamliquid without me doing the work for you. The prevalent mentality that still exists is that when a Protoss wins it's because of the race being overpowered, and when a Terran wins it's because of skill. "nice a move bro"

Yeah because there aren't a multitude of 'Zest so good' 'Rain so good' posts around.

People had an issue with relatively bad players prospering because of their race (arguably), similarly in the time of BL/Infestor everyone respected the skill of say a DRG or Life, while bemoaning the rise of the so-called 'PatchZerg'

You're making out like everyone just sits there and says even elite Protoss players have no skill which is patently not the case.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 24 2014 20:55 GMT
#549
Man, I love me some base trades.
Moderatorshe/her
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
September 24 2014 20:55 GMT
#550
LOL MC def learned from last game
rip passion
Erik.TheRed
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1655 Posts
September 24 2014 20:55 GMT
#551
LOL that observer pack by MC
"See you space cowboy"
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 24 2014 20:56 GMT
#552
No detection from Stardust? What?
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TL+ Member
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 24 2014 20:57 GMT
#553
that mothership winning the game
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25875 Posts
September 24 2014 20:57 GMT
#554
On September 25 2014 05:54 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 05:52 Wombat_NI wrote:
On September 25 2014 05:49 JoeCool wrote:
Wow 70.600 viewers for Hearthstone. O_o

Not bad. Don't really get the appeal of it as an eSport but Blizzard are on to a winner with that.

I think although there is an element of luck, I like to watch it because it has entertainment value (see people watching poker) and also has Warcraft stuff!

Although I haven't played in awhile because I didn't buy Naxx and those cards seem necessary to do well nowadays. I don't like Pay to Win stuff D:

It'll need it's own sub-categorisation at some stage
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Binky1842
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States2599 Posts
September 24 2014 20:57 GMT
#555
what is even happening??
"The zoo could not confirm that Binky was the attacker, but only Binky had blood on his face following the incident"
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 24 2014 20:58 GMT
#556
On September 25 2014 05:55 xyzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 05:52 Wombat_NI wrote:
On September 25 2014 05:49 JoeCool wrote:
Wow 70.600 viewers for Hearthstone. O_o

Not bad. Don't really get the appeal of it as an eSport but Blizzard are on to a winner with that.

Calling that game an e-sport is an affront to gaming. The skill cap is so abysmally low that the game plays itself. The design team even says as much in the interviews: The choices the players have during games is an illusion, and that makes it attractive to players of all (and non-existent) interest and skill levels. Anyway I rather talk about Starcraft, where real skill exists, despite the poor state of balance.

But only Terrans have real skill in SC2
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 24 2014 20:58 GMT
#557
Remember when Blizzard said they nerfed the mothership so it wouldnt be used in compettive play? Jokes on them!
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
September 24 2014 20:58 GMT
#558
dying to invisible army


stardust got rekted
rip passion
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
September 24 2014 20:58 GMT
#559
YES MC

ONE MORE
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Binky1842
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States2599 Posts
September 24 2014 20:58 GMT
#560
who needs obs? pfffft!
"The zoo could not confirm that Binky was the attacker, but only Binky had blood on his face following the incident"
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