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[WCS EU] Ro32 Group H Season 3 2014 - Page 2

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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 09 2014 14:27 GMT
#21
On September 09 2014 22:54 D-light wrote:
Horrible banner.


On September 09 2014 23:25 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
This banner is horrible. Too "inception"

Are you both upset Serral isn't in the banner?
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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5613 Posts
September 09 2014 14:42 GMT
#22
Serral will crush face.
don't wall off against random
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
September 09 2014 14:46 GMT
#23
Gogogogo MC/Grubby
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
September 09 2014 14:52 GMT
#24
Best banner EU
Neosteel Enthusiast
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
September 09 2014 14:54 GMT
#25
Also GRUBBY GOGOGOGO
Neosteel Enthusiast
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 09 2014 14:57 GMT
#26
Best banner of all time. I like MC, but gogo foreigners just because MC already has Blizzcon and we see him all the time :D
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17729 Posts
September 09 2014 15:14 GMT
#27
On September 09 2014 22:33 sc2isnotdying wrote:
WCS predictor, Happy does not have a better chance at winning his match than MC. Methinks your algorithm might need tweaking.

Aligulac says the same cause that's where WCS Predictor gets the player ratings from. Happy has a higher chance to get 2nd, MC has a slightly higher chance to get 1st, Happy has the better chance overall. It's because MC has a VERY weak vsP.
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
September 09 2014 15:26 GMT
#28
On September 09 2014 23:57 Darkhorse wrote:
Best banner of all time. I like MC, but gogo foreigners just because MC already has Blizzcon and we see him all the time :D

Big Issue with this WCS point system, like last year. Innovation had 4100 points after Season1 and was already qualified for Blizzcon ~6months before Blizzcon (~5th place if you look the final table of 2013) . I prefer a wcs points system that increases every month by 2%. you won a tournament at april = 750points, you won it at may = 765 points (2nd place 500 -> 510) etc.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
September 09 2014 15:32 GMT
#29
On September 10 2014 00:14 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 22:33 sc2isnotdying wrote:
WCS predictor, Happy does not have a better chance at winning his match than MC. Methinks your algorithm might need tweaking.

Aligulac says the same cause that's where WCS Predictor gets the player ratings from. Happy has a higher chance to get 2nd, MC has a slightly higher chance to get 1st, Happy has the better chance overall. It's because MC has a VERY weak vsP.

MC's biggest problem isn't against a particular race, its that he is easy to predict. Sure he comes out with a fucking cool build, and smashes faces left and right. Later though great players like Flash start to read his game.

He is a great player, but his biggest problem is that sometimes he never has a plan B. This is probably because his macro game is a bit weaker, thus he compensates it with great micro and tricky builds.

His forcefield usage is nearly perfect.

I think Happy has a chance of beating MC, but Happy has to read into MC's build fast. He has to research MC's games.

KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
September 09 2014 15:42 GMT
#30
On September 10 2014 00:26 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 23:57 Darkhorse wrote:
Best banner of all time. I like MC, but gogo foreigners just because MC already has Blizzcon and we see him all the time :D

Big Issue with this WCS point system, like last year. Innovation had 4100 points after Season1 and was already qualified for Blizzcon ~6months before Blizzcon (~5th place if you look the final table of 2013) . I prefer a wcs points system that increases every month by 2%. you won a tournament at april = 750points, you won it at may = 765 points (2nd place 500 -> 510) etc.

Why should someone who wins Dreamhack in September get more points than someone who wins one in April? They're both theoretically as difficult as one another and it makes more sense to have tournaments in the same circuit give out the same points.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 09 2014 15:49 GMT
#31
On September 10 2014 00:42 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 00:26 Dingodile wrote:
On September 09 2014 23:57 Darkhorse wrote:
Best banner of all time. I like MC, but gogo foreigners just because MC already has Blizzcon and we see him all the time :D

Big Issue with this WCS point system, like last year. Innovation had 4100 points after Season1 and was already qualified for Blizzcon ~6months before Blizzcon (~5th place if you look the final table of 2013) . I prefer a wcs points system that increases every month by 2%. you won a tournament at april = 750points, you won it at may = 765 points (2nd place 500 -> 510) etc.

Why should someone who wins Dreamhack in September get more points than someone who wins one in April? They're both theoretically as difficult as one another and it makes more sense to have tournaments in the same circuit give out the same points.

End of year drama and excitement of course! :D
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-09 15:57:50
September 09 2014 15:56 GMT
#32
On September 10 2014 00:26 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 23:57 Darkhorse wrote:
Best banner of all time. I like MC, but gogo foreigners just because MC already has Blizzcon and we see him all the time :D

Big Issue with this WCS point system, like last year. Innovation had 4100 points after Season1 and was already qualified for Blizzcon ~6months before Blizzcon (~5th place if you look the final table of 2013) . I prefer a wcs points system that increases every month by 2%. you won a tournament at april = 750points, you won it at may = 765 points (2nd place 500 -> 510) etc.

That's terrible. Blizzcon is the end of year tournament. Not the who has won the most last month tournament. That's like if they would give double points in the last race in Formula 1. Oh wait -_-
Neosteel Enthusiast
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
September 09 2014 16:00 GMT
#33
On September 09 2014 23:27 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 22:54 D-light wrote:
Horrible banner.


Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 23:25 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
This banner is horrible. Too "inception"

Are you both upset Serral isn't in the banner?

Well, Artosis claim that Serral will be the best foreign player in future. Ofc he should be in banner.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
September 09 2014 16:00 GMT
#34
On September 10 2014 00:26 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 23:57 Darkhorse wrote:
Best banner of all time. I like MC, but gogo foreigners just because MC already has Blizzcon and we see him all the time :D

Big Issue with this WCS point system, like last year. Innovation had 4100 points after Season1 and was already qualified for Blizzcon ~6months before Blizzcon (~5th place if you look the final table of 2013) . I prefer a wcs points system that increases every month by 2%. you won a tournament at april = 750points, you won it at may = 765 points (2nd place 500 -> 510) etc.

Innovation wasn't the only one to qualify early. Qualifying early to Blizzcon just means you won enough tournaments in the top 4, and those that won the first WCS/GSL. Winning either first or second WCS/GSL is nearly guaranteed entry.

Your system would be difficult to balance. You can't predict what would happen by adjusting WCS points according to date played. Is 2% too much? Even 1% might be a bit too much.

And what about players that are dominating the tournaments? Would this adjustment just make them further ahead? Could there be a chance that six progamers consistently make it to Blizzcon year after year?

What you suggest would be complex to predict, and cannot be implemented.

Rescawen
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland1028 Posts
September 09 2014 16:00 GMT
#35
serral is pretty much the sheldon cooper of sc2! lets see him show his genius!
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17729 Posts
September 09 2014 16:02 GMT
#36
On September 10 2014 01:00 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 00:26 Dingodile wrote:
On September 09 2014 23:57 Darkhorse wrote:
Best banner of all time. I like MC, but gogo foreigners just because MC already has Blizzcon and we see him all the time :D

Big Issue with this WCS point system, like last year. Innovation had 4100 points after Season1 and was already qualified for Blizzcon ~6months before Blizzcon (~5th place if you look the final table of 2013) . I prefer a wcs points system that increases every month by 2%. you won a tournament at april = 750points, you won it at may = 765 points (2nd place 500 -> 510) etc.

Innovation wasn't the only one to qualify early. Qualifying early to Blizzcon just means you won enough tournaments in the top 4, and those that won the first WCS/GSL. Winning either first or second WCS/GSL is nearly guaranteed entry.

Your system would be difficult to balance. You can't predict what would happen by adjusting WCS points according to date played. Is 2% too much? Even 1% might be a bit too much.

And what about players that are dominating the tournaments? Would this adjustment just make them further ahead? Could there be a chance that six progamers consistently make it to Blizzcon year after year?

What you suggest would be complex to predict, and cannot be implemented.


well I mean you could predict it....
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
September 09 2014 16:03 GMT
#37
While we're on the subject, why can Baltimore secure a playoff berth within a week? There are still 20 games to go in the season! They should make September games count as single-game doubleheaders, so teams don't get to be safe too early on.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-09 16:05:56
September 09 2014 16:05 GMT
#38
On September 10 2014 01:02 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 01:00 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
On September 10 2014 00:26 Dingodile wrote:
On September 09 2014 23:57 Darkhorse wrote:
Best banner of all time. I like MC, but gogo foreigners just because MC already has Blizzcon and we see him all the time :D

Big Issue with this WCS point system, like last year. Innovation had 4100 points after Season1 and was already qualified for Blizzcon ~6months before Blizzcon (~5th place if you look the final table of 2013) . I prefer a wcs points system that increases every month by 2%. you won a tournament at april = 750points, you won it at may = 765 points (2nd place 500 -> 510) etc.

Innovation wasn't the only one to qualify early. Qualifying early to Blizzcon just means you won enough tournaments in the top 4, and those that won the first WCS/GSL. Winning either first or second WCS/GSL is nearly guaranteed entry.

Your system would be difficult to balance. You can't predict what would happen by adjusting WCS points according to date played. Is 2% too much? Even 1% might be a bit too much.

And what about players that are dominating the tournaments? Would this adjustment just make them further ahead? Could there be a chance that six progamers consistently make it to Blizzcon year after year?

What you suggest would be complex to predict, and cannot be implemented.


well I mean you could predict it....

Interesting…..

Could you do it? How long would it take to adjust the algorithm?
edit: *throws a rock onto the tracks*
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
September 09 2014 16:05 GMT
#39
On September 10 2014 01:02 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 01:00 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
On September 10 2014 00:26 Dingodile wrote:
On September 09 2014 23:57 Darkhorse wrote:
Best banner of all time. I like MC, but gogo foreigners just because MC already has Blizzcon and we see him all the time :D

Big Issue with this WCS point system, like last year. Innovation had 4100 points after Season1 and was already qualified for Blizzcon ~6months before Blizzcon (~5th place if you look the final table of 2013) . I prefer a wcs points system that increases every month by 2%. you won a tournament at april = 750points, you won it at may = 765 points (2nd place 500 -> 510) etc.

Innovation wasn't the only one to qualify early. Qualifying early to Blizzcon just means you won enough tournaments in the top 4, and those that won the first WCS/GSL. Winning either first or second WCS/GSL is nearly guaranteed entry.

Your system would be difficult to balance. You can't predict what would happen by adjusting WCS points according to date played. Is 2% too much? Even 1% might be a bit too much.

And what about players that are dominating the tournaments? Would this adjustment just make them further ahead? Could there be a chance that six progamers consistently make it to Blizzcon year after year?

What you suggest would be complex to predict, and cannot be implemented.


well I mean you could predict it....

Die4Ever (Can be predict it? ), Die4Ever (Damn right be can!)
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 09 2014 16:06 GMT
#40
On September 10 2014 01:00 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 23:27 Lorning wrote:
On September 09 2014 22:54 D-light wrote:
Horrible banner.


On September 09 2014 23:25 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
This banner is horrible. Too "inception"

Are you both upset Serral isn't in the banner?

Well, Artosis claim that Serral will be the best foreign player in future. Ofc he should be in banner.

Yeah and Artosis is a god of predicting these types of things!

RIP Clide
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