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Austria24416 Posts
On August 13 2014 20:26 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 20:22 DarkLordOlli wrote:On August 13 2014 20:22 boxerfred wrote:On August 13 2014 20:20 DarkLordOlli wrote: Oh god, Symbol vs Roro Are the VODs of Maru vs. Soulkey and Symbol vs. Roro behind a paywall or yet available for free? I believe all of the 2010-2013 VODs are on the GSL youtube channel, it's just a huge pain to find the games you want to see Any best practice/advice?
You have to type in exactly what the game/series was and what player were involved. For example: Code S Season 2 2014 Group B Match 1 Set X + the two players. That's about the only reliable way to find their stuff on youtube unless you wanna manually skip through all their videos or playlists D:
On August 13 2014 20:27 LoneYoShi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 20:25 DarkLordOlli wrote: Speaking of GSL VODs, I watched Seed's entire GSL run a few days ago. I understand why Byun is gone now Do you care to elaborate pls ?
Byun had the series won and was going to the finals, Seed went for desperation dark shrine, Byun pulled SCVs. Seed ran DTs in and Byun walked back home, then walked around the map with his SCVs for like 5 minutes before he lost his army and the game. Then he tried and failed another SCV pull in the final game and lost the series. I would probably hate life after that too.
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On August 13 2014 20:29 Arvendilin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 20:25 Squat wrote:On August 13 2014 20:15 pure.Wasted wrote: I have such a poor understanding of current PvZ, I can't tell if Soulkey is actually slumping or if this meta just doesn't suit him. Honestly, SK, like most Korean zergs, just isn't very good at host play vs toss. he's overly ambitious and tries to take the initiative too much, throwing away large clumps of units for little gain. I maintain that EU zergs in particular have a mch more refined meta for this kind of play. Compare the way Snute plays out his SH games, the patience, the methodical approach. Kespa protosses are obviously better than the people Snute and the EU zergs play against, but there is no way to argue this play is good or effective, I would argue that the EU Zerg style of SH play mostly works just because their opponents are worse than the KeSPA Koreans. Nothing against the EU Protosses, but they aren't at the same level, SH play has been tried out in Korea aswell, but after the Tempest buff vs structures it hasn't been seen as much anymore (the slow defensive SH I mean) my guess would be that it doesn't work against their practice partners anymore, why else would they stop?
That change never went through.
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On August 13 2014 20:28 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 20:27 LoneYoShi wrote:On August 13 2014 20:25 DarkLordOlli wrote: Speaking of GSL VODs, I watched Seed's entire GSL run a few days ago. I understand why Byun is gone now Do you care to elaborate pls ? ByuN had one of the biggest chokes of all time in his last game against Seed.
On August 13 2014 20:31 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 20:27 LoneYoShi wrote:On August 13 2014 20:25 DarkLordOlli wrote: Speaking of GSL VODs, I watched Seed's entire GSL run a few days ago. I understand why Byun is gone now Do you care to elaborate pls ? Byun had the series won and was going to the finals, Seed went for desperation dark shrine, Byun pulled SCVs. Seed ran DTs in and Byun walked back home, then walked around the map with his SCVs for like 5 minutes before he lost his army and the game. Then he tried and failed another SCV pull in the final game and lost the series. I would probably hate life after that too.
Oh, ok.
Thanks guys, it seems I somehow forgot about that.
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On August 13 2014 20:27 WTCO wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 20:23 Topdoller wrote: i seen nothing in that game that indicates Stats is really that good. all he done was survive to get 6+ gasses and build voidray, colossi and phoenix. 3 units that are A move and shit on Zergs units hard.
I still dont know why Zergs arnt going infester in an attempt to at least force the Protoss to micro and split their Deathballs up. Wait, Phoenix are A-move now? News to me. Considering they fire while moving ..yes they are and at range 7 they are almost afk
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I missed a mech game of Bbyong in TvP ? Did he win with it ?
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Wow, all the terminator jokes and the SCV jokes just coalesced into a single joke.
That's a payoff sitcoms would kill for.
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Austria24416 Posts
On August 13 2014 20:32 Topdoller wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 20:27 WTCO wrote:On August 13 2014 20:23 Topdoller wrote: i seen nothing in that game that indicates Stats is really that good. all he done was survive to get 6+ gasses and build voidray, colossi and phoenix. 3 units that are A move and shit on Zergs units hard.
I still dont know why Zergs arnt going infester in an attempt to at least force the Protoss to micro and split their Deathballs up. Wait, Phoenix are A-move now? News to me. Considering they fire while moving ..yes they are and at range 7 they are almost afk
Phoenixes are harder to micro than that entire zerg army.
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United States97274 Posts
On August 13 2014 20:30 Shellshock wrote:0:00 Terminator spawns in the top right Bbyong spawns in the top left 1:40 rax first for Bbyong gateway first for Terminator gas for Bbyong
2:00 gas for Terminator cybernetics core for Terminator reaper for Bbyong
3:00 reactor for Bbyong Nexus for Terminator CC on the low ground for Bbyong MSC for Terminator 2nd gas for Terminator
4:00 Factory for Bbyong stalker for Terminator scouting probe of Terminator killed by the reaper twilight council for Terminator
5:00 2nd stalker for Terminator reaper scout of Bbyong is killed without seeing anything reactored hellion production started for Bbyong Starport for Bbyong Blink research for Terminator
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On August 13 2014 20:33 Faust852 wrote:I missed a mech game of Bbyong in TvP ? Did he win with it ?
Turns out with an unscouted island base Terran can mech vP.
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On August 13 2014 20:33 Faust852 wrote:I missed a mech game of Bbyong in TvP ? Did he win with it ?
I think it's more accurate to say that he didn't lose with it. Definitely worth watching, but Thor efficacy in late game not confirmed.
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On August 13 2014 20:33 Faust852 wrote:I missed a mech game of Bbyong in TvP ? Did he win with it ? Wasn't mech, just a few Thors with bio.
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On August 13 2014 20:34 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 20:32 Topdoller wrote:On August 13 2014 20:27 WTCO wrote:On August 13 2014 20:23 Topdoller wrote: i seen nothing in that game that indicates Stats is really that good. all he done was survive to get 6+ gasses and build voidray, colossi and phoenix. 3 units that are A move and shit on Zergs units hard.
I still dont know why Zergs arnt going infester in an attempt to at least force the Protoss to micro and split their Deathballs up. Wait, Phoenix are A-move now? News to me. Considering they fire while moving ..yes they are and at range 7 they are almost afk Phoenixes are harder to micro than that entire zerg army.
#ShotsFired
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Ohh okay, I thought it went through, still my point stands, around that time the Zergs stopped using the overly passive style vs Protoss (with SH), so Protoss has figured out how to beat it.
And the EU Protosses are at a lower level and that is the reason it works for EU Zergs.
My point didn't rely at all on the patch so it doesn't change anything.
(Although I always thought they did >.< I guess I was just underestimating the normal damage output of Tempests vs structures then xD)
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On August 13 2014 20:32 Topdoller wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 20:27 WTCO wrote:On August 13 2014 20:23 Topdoller wrote: i seen nothing in that game that indicates Stats is really that good. all he done was survive to get 6+ gasses and build voidray, colossi and phoenix. 3 units that are A move and shit on Zergs units hard.
I still dont know why Zergs arnt going infester in an attempt to at least force the Protoss to micro and split their Deathballs up. Wait, Phoenix are A-move now? News to me. Considering they fire while moving ..yes they are and at range 7 they are almost afk
Serious or troll? :s
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By the way I missed the last Bbyong - Stats game on Merry Go Round. How did it go in a nutshell ?
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For a second I was excited by Mech being possible T_T
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On August 13 2014 20:35 [PkF] Wire wrote: By the way I missed the last Bbyong - Stats game on Merry Go Round. How did it go in a nutshell ? SCV pull against 2 base Toss. Bbyong threw it.
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Germany8360 Posts
On August 13 2014 20:31 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 20:26 boxerfred wrote:On August 13 2014 20:22 DarkLordOlli wrote:On August 13 2014 20:22 boxerfred wrote:On August 13 2014 20:20 DarkLordOlli wrote: Oh god, Symbol vs Roro Are the VODs of Maru vs. Soulkey and Symbol vs. Roro behind a paywall or yet available for free? I believe all of the 2010-2013 VODs are on the GSL youtube channel, it's just a huge pain to find the games you want to see Any best practice/advice? You have to type in exactly what the game/series was and what player were involved. For example: Code S Season 2 2014 Group B Match 1 Set X + the two players. That's about the only reliable way to find their stuff on youtube unless you wanna manually skip through all their videos or playlists D: Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 20:27 LoneYoShi wrote:On August 13 2014 20:25 DarkLordOlli wrote: Speaking of GSL VODs, I watched Seed's entire GSL run a few days ago. I understand why Byun is gone now Do you care to elaborate pls ? Byun had the series won and was going to the finals, Seed went for desperation dark shrine, Byun pulled SCVs. Seed ran DTs in and Byun walked back home, then walked around the map with his SCVs for like 5 minutes before he lost his army and the game. Then he tried and failed another SCV pull in the final game and lost the series. I would probably hate life after that too. GSL sure knows how to draw foreign users in :D
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On August 13 2014 20:35 [PkF] Wire wrote: By the way I missed the last Bbyong - Stats game on Merry Go Round. How did it go in a nutshell ? 2-bases SCV pull, Stats understood it, massed units on 2 bases and crushed the push.
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