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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
July 25 2014 03:53 GMT
#1041
On July 25 2014 12:31 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 11:29 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 25 2014 11:20 Foreverkul wrote:
On July 25 2014 11:18 stuchiu wrote:
On July 25 2014 11:17 Foreverkul wrote:
So only Impact is tired? Not also everyone who made it this far? :/


Polt played on East coast time. So 11:00 AM to now. Impact played from 1 AM to 10 AM

Was he planning not to make it all the way then? Couldn't take a nap before the tournament?


Players have lives and families, you can't just flip your sleeping schedule around and around and around at will. I'm sure he did take a nap but a nap isn't enough to give you 10 hours of endurance.

The fatigue took an obvious toll as you saw with that muta control mistake which resulted in his entire muta ball getting killed. It's fine though, the qualification is what mattered. He wanted to put on a good showing against Polt and he did, I think if the mutas hadnt died he'd have won that game, he had the superior economy and his 3/3 was well on the way. He'll get a chance at revenge at the event.

I just find saying someone is tired is a bad excuse for playing poorly


That's weird, because it's maybe the most legitimate excuse for any SC2 player playing poorly. It sucked for Symbol as well, the qualifier is setup at a time which makes life difficult for the Koreans living in SK, but ideal for those that moved to Europe for WCS and such.

You can't exactly have people stay up just for KR and EU region either. What about all the NA players that were trying out but knocked out early in the tournament? It's a global qualifier and so there will always be time zone problems. It's just that it affects different people.

Having said that, do I like the idea of global qualifier? Yes and no. I think it would be better if there was two NA qualifiers, one EU qualifier, one KR/TW/CN qualifier, and one or two global qualifiers. That way, players can possibly play at a better time and not have to play in the wee hours like Impact or all the other players that were affected by fatigue.


I don't necessarily like the regional qualifiers thing, it just seems like a wasted slot. If a foreigner can't get through the qualifier with mixed regions then they're not gonna be able to get anything done in the main tournament, so you'd be better off with a more competitive player.

The suggestion someone had earlier was great, keep all 3 qualifiers local but rotate the times to favour different regions. That would be great.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 25 2014 04:35 GMT
#1042
Wow, Mvp sure went deep. Shame he couldn't make it.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
pHaRSiDE
Profile Joined March 2011
United States752 Posts
July 26 2014 22:02 GMT
#1043
Sign up for the global qualifiers cup 2 happening tomorrow! Its stacked, so don't miss out!
twitter.com/ThePharsideESL / ESL IEM NA Admin / WCS NA Qualifier Admin
Foreverkul
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1649 Posts
July 27 2014 02:12 GMT
#1044
On July 25 2014 12:53 TotalBiscuit wrote:
The suggestion someone had earlier was great, keep all 3 qualifiers local but rotate the times to favour different regions. That would be great.

I assumed they already planned that but was disappointed to learn they did not. Should be standard practice for global events like this so people can pick they best date they can compete.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
July 27 2014 09:47 GMT
#1045
On July 25 2014 12:53 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 12:31 geokilla wrote:
On July 25 2014 11:29 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 25 2014 11:20 Foreverkul wrote:
On July 25 2014 11:18 stuchiu wrote:
On July 25 2014 11:17 Foreverkul wrote:
So only Impact is tired? Not also everyone who made it this far? :/


Polt played on East coast time. So 11:00 AM to now. Impact played from 1 AM to 10 AM

Was he planning not to make it all the way then? Couldn't take a nap before the tournament?


Players have lives and families, you can't just flip your sleeping schedule around and around and around at will. I'm sure he did take a nap but a nap isn't enough to give you 10 hours of endurance.

The fatigue took an obvious toll as you saw with that muta control mistake which resulted in his entire muta ball getting killed. It's fine though, the qualification is what mattered. He wanted to put on a good showing against Polt and he did, I think if the mutas hadnt died he'd have won that game, he had the superior economy and his 3/3 was well on the way. He'll get a chance at revenge at the event.

I just find saying someone is tired is a bad excuse for playing poorly


That's weird, because it's maybe the most legitimate excuse for any SC2 player playing poorly. It sucked for Symbol as well, the qualifier is setup at a time which makes life difficult for the Koreans living in SK, but ideal for those that moved to Europe for WCS and such.

You can't exactly have people stay up just for KR and EU region either. What about all the NA players that were trying out but knocked out early in the tournament? It's a global qualifier and so there will always be time zone problems. It's just that it affects different people.

Having said that, do I like the idea of global qualifier? Yes and no. I think it would be better if there was two NA qualifiers, one EU qualifier, one KR/TW/CN qualifier, and one or two global qualifiers. That way, players can possibly play at a better time and not have to play in the wee hours like Impact or all the other players that were affected by fatigue.


I don't necessarily like the regional qualifiers thing, it just seems like a wasted slot. If a foreigner can't get through the qualifier with mixed regions then they're not gonna be able to get anything done in the main tournament, so you'd be better off with a more competitive player.

The suggestion someone had earlier was great, keep all 3 qualifiers local but rotate the times to favour different regions. That would be great.

I appreciate the attitude that whom so ever happen to be the best players should be the ones going through, but it also depends on what the aim of the tournament is. If it's more of an olympic style event, i.e. every country or region or whatever sends one competitor, and then it's a region vs region showdown, then regional qualifiers make sense.

If the aim is simply to get the absolute best players regardless, then having an open bracket with rotating timezones and home servers makes sense. In Sc2 this is a little skewed because one region is just so massively superior that only a very select few of the people outside can even compete with mid-tier Koreans. I don't know what Red Bull is looking for, but they likely know for a fact that having foreigners in the main event will draw viewership, so I'm not surprised they look for ways to insert at least a few.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 27 2014 15:52 GMT
#1046
On July 27 2014 07:02 pHaRSiDE wrote:
Sign up for the global qualifiers cup 2 happening tomorrow! Its stacked, so don't miss out!


I signed up because it was stacked. Just for a chance to face a pro, and get a legendary smackdown :D
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1451 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-27 16:51:14
July 27 2014 16:50 GMT
#1047
Mistake.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-27 17:29:49
July 27 2014 17:23 GMT
#1048
@pHaRSiDE it's BO3s from the start right?


Also I haven't found anywhere where it says what maps the games will be on. I mean is it veto or what?
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
pHaRSiDE
Profile Joined March 2011
United States752 Posts
July 27 2014 17:34 GMT
#1049
On July 28 2014 02:23 Mozdk wrote:
@pHaRSiDE it's BO3s from the start right?


Also I haven't found anywhere where it says what maps the games will be on. I mean is it veto or what?


All of that is in original post o.O yes its best of 3 all rounds and yes its vetos by ladder maps. Its in original post under map selection process spoiler.
twitter.com/ThePharsideESL / ESL IEM NA Admin / WCS NA Qualifier Admin
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 27 2014 17:48 GMT
#1050
On July 28 2014 02:34 pHaRSiDE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2014 02:23 Mozdk wrote:
@pHaRSiDE it's BO3s from the start right?


Also I haven't found anywhere where it says what maps the games will be on. I mean is it veto or what?


All of that is in original post o.O yes its best of 3 all rounds and yes its vetos by ladder maps. Its in original post under map selection process spoiler.


Kewl thanks
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
July 27 2014 18:16 GMT
#1051
bracket is up: http://www.nationalesl.com/us/redbull/sc2/qualifier_5/rankings/?=nocache
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
July 27 2014 18:17 GMT
#1052
No Mvp or Harstem? TT
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
July 27 2014 18:18 GMT
#1053
On July 28 2014 03:17 The_Templar wrote:
No Mvp or Harstem? TT

Mvp is in, harstem is commenting ATC
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 27 2014 18:26 GMT
#1054
Possible Mvp vs DRG or GuMiho, nice!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 27 2014 18:32 GMT
#1055
Possible Gamja vs Gamtja match if they both win
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-27 18:42:34
July 27 2014 18:35 GMT
#1056
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Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-27 18:41:46
July 27 2014 18:41 GMT
#1057
(T)RuFF 2-0 (T)Hack o_O
Mal 2-0 (Z)DeParture
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SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
July 27 2014 18:42 GMT
#1058
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 27 2014 18:44 GMT
#1059
Mal is Oz' manager and got a walkover. Plays Mvp next most likely, GL haha
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
July 27 2014 18:45 GMT
#1060
Heh, trust has the North Korea flag
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