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On July 14 2014 06:09 codonbyte wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 06:03 Rollora wrote:On July 14 2014 05:50 codonbyte wrote:On July 14 2014 05:47 Rollora wrote:On July 14 2014 05:43 codonbyte wrote:On July 14 2014 05:39 Rollora wrote:On July 14 2014 05:36 codonbyte wrote:On July 14 2014 05:33 Rollora wrote:On July 14 2014 05:25 codonbyte wrote:On July 14 2014 05:24 Rollora wrote:
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hmm took me 7 or 8.
First time I heard and read about TL was when a friend who is also registered here, told me about it.
Back then, I found the design too confusing and too much information at once Holy crap dude #mindblown. How old is everyone here? why mindblown? 28, PhD, my wife who is also online from time to time is 36. You don't need to be 15 to play SC2  it's not like it is brood war or so Edit: this is good news though, means I'll still be enjoying video games when I'm 50 :D i dunno bout that, games when I grew up were made for adults, games today (COD, Battlefield, autohealing and not being able to lose) are made for kids, which make it boring to play them. idk, I think adults will always be a good market and there will be plenty of games for us. Especially this new generation of adults, who grew up with video games as kids and are already playing them. I know many adults in my parents generation didn't get into video games, and even look down on them (at least, most of the adults I knew, since I went to a weird school where none of the kids were allowed to play any video games). you are definately right, the market just got bigger, the good games didn't go away. But the kids nowadays, when I ask them about Doom, Unreal Tournament, Quake, Counterstrike, Deus Ex, STALKER, StarCraft or whatever they don't know and they don't want to know. They know LoL, CoD and BF4 but in the end it is important that they switch to the game with some demanding gameplay, or will they stay with their ez games? I know what you mean, man. The one video game I played a lot as a kid was Pokemon. A friend felt sorry for me since my parents didn't let me play video games at all and he gave me his old GBA and cartridges for Ruby and Fire Red. I kept that GBA hidden under a mattress in my room and played it a bunch when my parents weren't looking. I gotta say one of the things that was difficult about switching to Starcraft for me is that when laddering, no matter how good you get you'll only win 50% of the time. The fact that in pokemon games you win virtually all of the in-game battles has kind of spoiled me, lol. yeah, it is not the kids but the industries fault. Learning to lose should be part of the game, not auto-win. To learn how to do it in a different way, when it doesn't work the way you trie it first. But with CoD like games (and autoheal) it is "rewarding" no matter how u play the game. It would be more rewarding if the victory is achieved harder from time to time, but that is how most games of today are designed. I played Doom when I was 6, hell I shit my pants back then (I needed to wait until my parents go to bed, went to the computer room in our house and played until the level was finished (couldn't stop playing before that, or the demons would come at night and get me). I died a hundread deaths but it was worth it, after playing through it you really felt like being a hero. That is why I hate CoD so much, it doesn't feel like I have done something special. Back then I was more used to lose in games or almost every way cause I had an older brother who won against me in almost anything we did. Maybe that is why I don't cheese in SC2, I choose to do it the hard way, no matter if I lose. 50% winning/losing is a good concept I think. Yeah man, I've been trying to get back into laddering. It's stupid how discouraged I get when I lose at SC2. Kind of pathetic really that I mostly still just play the AI. I've been trying to learn a new hotkey layout (TheCore), but I'm never able to stick with laddering long enough to learn it. Last time I laddered I stuck with it for about 3 days (Jakatak says it'll take at LEAST a week to learn the core) so now I kinda have to start over since I didn't really get anywhere last time. I tell ya man, ThePokemonSyndrome is a serious illness that games can suffer from, lol
As I am still searching for a research topic in my psychology studies for my dissertation, I will have a look into the influences of games onto gamers (from a not "games make you a killer" perspective), thx for the tip.
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On July 14 2014 06:12 LoneYoShi wrote:
Ok, Polt held on his end of things. Let's see if Bomber can do the same so we get a TvT final !
Honestly it looked like viOlets' weakest MU was vT by far. I don't see Bomber losing to viOlet! We might have this infamous TvT final :D
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On July 14 2014 06:13 codonbyte wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 06:05 sAsImre wrote:On July 14 2014 06:03 codonbyte wrote:Anybody remember this old strategy guide? It's hilarious reading these guides that were written before the BW metagame had developed. This guide recommends using MnM vs protoss and using mass ghosts to lockdown carriers (I believe the only player who's ever actually pulled that off is Flash, due to the insane amount of APM required to clone all those ghosts, not to mention the fact that the hotkey for Lockdown was 'L'). That guide is an absolute goldmine of hilarious "advice". do you have the vod for god's game ? No I don't. What is "God's game"?
Flash's lockdown play :p
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On July 14 2014 06:11 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend Semifinals #1 Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (6) 75% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (2) 25% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Semifinals #1 Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Semi Finals #1 Game 4?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 25% ★★★- Good game (1) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (2) 50% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend Semi Finals #1 Game 4? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Semi Finals #1 Game 5?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 25% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 50% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend Semi Finals #1 Game 5? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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On July 14 2014 06:13 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 06:13 codonbyte wrote:On July 14 2014 06:05 sAsImre wrote:On July 14 2014 06:03 codonbyte wrote:Anybody remember this old strategy guide? It's hilarious reading these guides that were written before the BW metagame had developed. This guide recommends using MnM vs protoss and using mass ghosts to lockdown carriers (I believe the only player who's ever actually pulled that off is Flash, due to the insane amount of APM required to clone all those ghosts, not to mention the fact that the hotkey for Lockdown was 'L'). That guide is an absolute goldmine of hilarious "advice". do you have the vod for god's game ? No I don't. What is "God's game"? Flash's lockdown play :p
Didn't BoxeR also have one of those? :O
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On July 14 2014 06:13 Faefae wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 06:12 LoneYoShi wrote:
Ok, Polt held on his end of things. Let's see if Bomber can do the same so we get a TvT final ! Honestly it looked like viOlets' weakest MU was vT by far. I don't see Bomber losing to viOlet! We might have this infamous TvT final :D
Anyone want to do a quick Liquidpedia search to see when the last time was that Bomber lost a series to Violet? Or just what their head-to-head is?
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On July 14 2014 06:13 codonbyte wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 06:05 sAsImre wrote:On July 14 2014 06:03 codonbyte wrote:Anybody remember this old strategy guide? It's hilarious reading these guides that were written before the BW metagame had developed. This guide recommends using MnM vs protoss and using mass ghosts to lockdown carriers (I believe the only player who's ever actually pulled that off is Flash, due to the insane amount of APM required to clone all those ghosts, not to mention the fact that the hotkey for Lockdown was 'L'). That guide is an absolute goldmine of hilarious "advice". do you have the vod for god's game ? No I don't. What is "God's game"?
God referring to flash. Also it wasnt flash who cloned them it was boxer on lost temple I believe
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On July 14 2014 06:13 Faefae wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 06:12 LoneYoShi wrote:
Ok, Polt held on his end of things. Let's see if Bomber can do the same so we get a TvT final ! Honestly it looked like viOlets' weakest MU was vT by far. I don't see Bomber losing to viOlet! We might have this infamous TvT final :D
Oh my god, that would be pretty cool. I've always liked TvT more than the other two MUs. I think it's because TvTs tend to be pretty long games with a lot of high-tech units, not to mention it's the one MU where Cattlebruisers are viable (although Raven Math contests that viability).
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Axletoss is so freaking tall ._.
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I saw that and thought the same thing. Glad grubby screencapped that
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Possibility of a TvT final, possibility of Bomber winning it. All conditions are there for the great crash.
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On July 14 2014 06:14 Jazzman88 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 06:13 Faefae wrote:On July 14 2014 06:12 LoneYoShi wrote:
Ok, Polt held on his end of things. Let's see if Bomber can do the same so we get a TvT final ! Honestly it looked like viOlets' weakest MU was vT by far. I don't see Bomber losing to viOlet! We might have this infamous TvT final :D Anyone want to do a quick Liquidpedia search to see when the last time was that Bomber lost a series to Violet? Or just what their head-to-head is?
It's aligulac but there you go :
http://aligulac.com/misc/compare/12-Bomber,8-viOLet/
Match : 3 - 2 for Bomber
Games : 6 - 6
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On July 14 2014 06:16 TheDwf wrote:
Possibility of a TvT final, possibility of Bomber winning it. All conditions are there for the great crash.
3-0 into 3-4 ? A shame we won't see Bomber tvt on alterzim, his shit is stupidly enjoyable.
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On July 14 2014 06:15 codonbyte wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 06:13 Faefae wrote:On July 14 2014 06:12 LoneYoShi wrote:
Ok, Polt held on his end of things. Let's see if Bomber can do the same so we get a TvT final ! Honestly it looked like viOlets' weakest MU was vT by far. I don't see Bomber losing to viOlet! We might have this infamous TvT final :D Oh my god, that would be pretty cool. I've always liked TvT more than the other two MUs. I think it's because TvTs tend to be pretty long games with a lot of high-tech units, not to mention it's the one MU where Cattlebruisers are viable (although Raven Math contests that viability).
Yeah, gogo Bomber !
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On July 14 2014 06:16 chipmonklord17 wrote:I saw that and thought the same thing. Glad grubby screencapped that
glad to see that finally germans have to work hard for the win
Funny how Grubby's stream seemded to derp at the same time as mine
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On July 14 2014 06:13 Rollora wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 06:09 codonbyte wrote:On July 14 2014 06:03 Rollora wrote:On July 14 2014 05:50 codonbyte wrote:On July 14 2014 05:47 Rollora wrote:On July 14 2014 05:43 codonbyte wrote:On July 14 2014 05:39 Rollora wrote:On July 14 2014 05:36 codonbyte wrote:On July 14 2014 05:33 Rollora wrote:On July 14 2014 05:25 codonbyte wrote:
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Holy crap dude #mindblown.
How old is everyone here? why mindblown? 28, PhD, my wife who is also online from time to time is 36. You don't need to be 15 to play SC2 it's not like it is brood war or so Edit: this is good news though, means I'll still be enjoying video games when I'm 50 :D i dunno bout that, games when I grew up were made for adults, games today (COD, Battlefield, autohealing and not being able to lose) are made for kids, which make it boring to play them. idk, I think adults will always be a good market and there will be plenty of games for us. Especially this new generation of adults, who grew up with video games as kids and are already playing them. I know many adults in my parents generation didn't get into video games, and even look down on them (at least, most of the adults I knew, since I went to a weird school where none of the kids were allowed to play any video games). you are definately right, the market just got bigger, the good games didn't go away. But the kids nowadays, when I ask them about Doom, Unreal Tournament, Quake, Counterstrike, Deus Ex, STALKER, StarCraft or whatever they don't know and they don't want to know. They know LoL, CoD and BF4 but in the end it is important that they switch to the game with some demanding gameplay, or will they stay with their ez games? I know what you mean, man. The one video game I played a lot as a kid was Pokemon. A friend felt sorry for me since my parents didn't let me play video games at all and he gave me his old GBA and cartridges for Ruby and Fire Red. I kept that GBA hidden under a mattress in my room and played it a bunch when my parents weren't looking. I gotta say one of the things that was difficult about switching to Starcraft for me is that when laddering, no matter how good you get you'll only win 50% of the time. The fact that in pokemon games you win virtually all of the in-game battles has kind of spoiled me, lol. yeah, it is not the kids but the industries fault. Learning to lose should be part of the game, not auto-win. To learn how to do it in a different way, when it doesn't work the way you trie it first. But with CoD like games (and autoheal) it is "rewarding" no matter how u play the game. It would be more rewarding if the victory is achieved harder from time to time, but that is how most games of today are designed. I played Doom when I was 6, hell I shit my pants back then (I needed to wait until my parents go to bed, went to the computer room in our house and played until the level was finished (couldn't stop playing before that, or the demons would come at night and get me). I died a hundread deaths but it was worth it, after playing through it you really felt like being a hero. That is why I hate CoD so much, it doesn't feel like I have done something special. Back then I was more used to lose in games or almost every way cause I had an older brother who won against me in almost anything we did. Maybe that is why I don't cheese in SC2, I choose to do it the hard way, no matter if I lose. 50% winning/losing is a good concept I think. Yeah man, I've been trying to get back into laddering. It's stupid how discouraged I get when I lose at SC2. Kind of pathetic really that I mostly still just play the AI. I've been trying to learn a new hotkey layout (TheCore), but I'm never able to stick with laddering long enough to learn it. Last time I laddered I stuck with it for about 3 days (Jakatak says it'll take at LEAST a week to learn the core) so now I kinda have to start over since I didn't really get anywhere last time. I tell ya man, ThePokemonSyndrome is a serious illness that games can suffer from, lol As I am still searching for a research topic in my psychology studies for my dissertation, I will have a look into the influences of games onto gamers (from a not "games make you a killer" perspective), thx for the tip.
Hey no problem buddy. Yeah it would be nice to have a psychological study about gamers that isn't politically-motivated. I swear to god, if I see one more person on TV going on about how "omg it's so terrible what these evil video games are doing to kids these days. Look at how violent kids are these days! Blaah blaah blaah." Not to mention that according to Steven Pinker, violence has actually been steadily declining, in spite of what some might have you believe, and we currently have less violence in our society than we ever have.
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On July 14 2014 06:17 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 06:16 TheDwf wrote:
Possibility of a TvT final, possibility of Bomber winning it. All conditions are there for the great crash. 3-0 into 3-4 ? A shame we won't see Bomber tvt on alterzim, his shit is stupidly enjoyable.
That sounds about right: the first player to ever lose a bo5 after being up 3-0.
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Update: in 2012, Violet had the edge on Bomber, going 5-2 and 2-1 in games and series respectively.
However, in 2013, no games, and in 2014, Bomber is 3-1 versus Violet in the 3rd place match for LSC3, their only meeting.
Link
Edit: Ninjas are fucking OP, man.
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On July 14 2014 06:18 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 06:17 sAsImre wrote:On July 14 2014 06:16 TheDwf wrote:
Possibility of a TvT final, possibility of Bomber winning it. All conditions are there for the great crash. 3-0 into 3-4 ? A shame we won't see Bomber tvt on alterzim, his shit is stupidly enjoyable. That sounds about right: the first player to ever lose a bo5 after being up 3-0.
only bomber could overcome my silliness.
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