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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
July 13 2014 21:28 GMT
#1321
On July 14 2014 06:26 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:25 Rollora wrote:
And Germany just shot the 1-0. 7 minutes before the end

Anything's possible in 7 minutes.


Just ask the Brazilian team hue hue hue
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
July 13 2014 21:28 GMT
#1322
On July 14 2014 06:26 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:25 Rollora wrote:
And Germany just shot the 1-0. 7 minutes before the end

Anything's possible in 7 minutes.

ofc but well Germany knows how to defend and also Argentinia didn't score in the previous 113 mins.

intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 13 2014 21:29 GMT
#1323
On July 14 2014 06:28 Squat wrote:
I said Germany was going to win back in Mars. Just saying.

I predicted a Brazil - Argentina finals.

And then predicted an Argentina 2-1 victory.
kiss kiss fall in love
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
July 13 2014 21:29 GMT
#1324
On July 14 2014 06:28 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:26 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:25 Rollora wrote:
And Germany just shot the 1-0. 7 minutes before the end

Anything's possible in 7 minutes.


Just ask the Brazilian team hue hue hue

rude man :D
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
July 13 2014 21:30 GMT
#1325
On July 14 2014 06:29 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:28 Heartland wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:26 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:25 Rollora wrote:
And Germany just shot the 1-0. 7 minutes before the end

Anything's possible in 7 minutes.


Just ask the Brazilian team hue hue hue

rude man :D

Could ask Puck too.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 13 2014 21:30 GMT
#1326
Now there are two minutes + added time left. You can do it, Argentina.
kiss kiss fall in love
codonbyte
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States840 Posts
July 13 2014 21:30 GMT
#1327
On July 14 2014 06:25 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:18 codonbyte wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:13 Rollora wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:09 codonbyte wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:03 Rollora wrote:
On July 14 2014 05:50 codonbyte wrote:
On July 14 2014 05:47 Rollora wrote:
On July 14 2014 05:43 codonbyte wrote:
On July 14 2014 05:39 Rollora wrote:
On July 14 2014 05:36 codonbyte wrote:
[quote]
Edit: this is good news though, means I'll still be enjoying video games when I'm 50 :D

i dunno bout that, games when I grew up were made for adults, games today (COD, Battlefield, autohealing and not being able to lose) are made for kids, which make it boring to play them.

idk, I think adults will always be a good market and there will be plenty of games for us. Especially this new generation of adults, who grew up with video games as kids and are already playing them. I know many adults in my parents generation didn't get into video games, and even look down on them (at least, most of the adults I knew, since I went to a weird school where none of the kids were allowed to play any video games).

you are definately right, the market just got bigger, the good games didn't go away.
But the kids nowadays, when I ask them about Doom, Unreal Tournament, Quake, Counterstrike, Deus Ex, STALKER, StarCraft or whatever they don't know and they don't want to know.
They know LoL, CoD and BF4 but in the end it is important that they switch to the game with some demanding gameplay, or will they stay with their ez games?

I know what you mean, man. The one video game I played a lot as a kid was Pokemon. A friend felt sorry for me since my parents didn't let me play video games at all and he gave me his old GBA and cartridges for Ruby and Fire Red. I kept that GBA hidden under a mattress in my room and played it a bunch when my parents weren't looking. I gotta say one of the things that was difficult about switching to Starcraft for me is that when laddering, no matter how good you get you'll only win 50% of the time.

The fact that in pokemon games you win virtually all of the in-game battles has kind of spoiled me, lol.

yeah, it is not the kids but the industries fault.
Learning to lose should be part of the game, not auto-win. To learn how to do it in a different way, when it doesn't work the way you trie it first. But with CoD like games (and autoheal) it is "rewarding" no matter how u play the game. It would be more rewarding if the victory is achieved harder from time to time, but that is how most games of today are designed.
I played Doom when I was 6, hell I shit my pants back then (I needed to wait until my parents go to bed, went to the computer room in our house and played until the level was finished (couldn't stop playing before that, or the demons would come at night and get me).
I died a hundread deaths but it was worth it, after playing through it you really felt like being a hero. That is why I hate CoD so much, it doesn't feel like I have done something special.
Back then I was more used to lose in games or almost every way cause I had an older brother who won against me in almost anything we did. Maybe that is why I don't cheese in SC2, I choose to do it the hard way, no matter if I lose.
50% winning/losing is a good concept I think.


Yeah man, I've been trying to get back into laddering. It's stupid how discouraged I get when I lose at SC2. Kind of pathetic really that I mostly still just play the AI. I've been trying to learn a new hotkey layout (TheCore), but I'm never able to stick with laddering long enough to learn it. Last time I laddered I stuck with it for about 3 days (Jakatak says it'll take at LEAST a week to learn the core) so now I kinda have to start over since I didn't really get anywhere last time. I tell ya man, ThePokemonSyndrome is a serious illness that games can suffer from, lol

As I am still searching for a research topic in my psychology studies for my dissertation, I will have a look into the influences of games onto gamers (from a not "games make you a killer" perspective), thx for the tip.

Hey no problem buddy. Yeah it would be nice to have a psychological study about gamers that isn't politically-motivated. I swear to god, if I see one more person on TV going on about how "omg it's so terrible what these evil video games are doing to kids these days. Look at how violent kids are these days! Blaah blaah blaah." Not to mention that according to Steven Pinker, violence has actually been steadily declining, in spite of what some might have you believe, and we currently have less violence in our society than we ever have.

wrote my first (for being a Bachelor) research paper on the influence of games, but it was more a physical thing (better reaction in some cases, better organisation and communication skills) not too deep into the psychological area.
And... you don't need to ask a single person for seeing that violence is declining, there are official statistics, provided by the US gov. that prove that.
http://theincidentaleconomist.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/violence-and-games-graph.gif

fun fact, you can google "violent crime rates US" or so and find out, that the crime rates are exploding after 1960 (TV reaches the masses) and declining from 1993 (Doom 1, Playstation) on. I don't say that there are connections, but well... make your own deep thoughts about that
There are tons of articles like that one on the web, but they don't get published in the mass media - unfortunately
http://theincidentaleconomist.com/wordpress/its-not-the-video-games/

Thanks for the articles, man. Yeah, society is pretty stupid when it comes to scapegoating video-games. Do you think any crazy anti-video-game laws will ever be passed as a result of this video-game hysteria?

Also, why aren't these articles published in the mass-media? You'd think controversial articles would attract attention and be good for ratings.
Procrastination is the enemy
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 13 2014 21:30 GMT
#1328
On July 14 2014 06:30 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:29 Rollora wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:28 Heartland wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:26 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:25 Rollora wrote:
And Germany just shot the 1-0. 7 minutes before the end

Anything's possible in 7 minutes.


Just ask the Brazilian team hue hue hue

rude man :D

Could ask Puck too.

What happened to puCK?
kiss kiss fall in love
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
July 13 2014 21:31 GMT
#1329
are the finals played today or tomorrow?
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
July 13 2014 21:31 GMT
#1330
On July 14 2014 06:30 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:30 Squat wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:29 Rollora wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:28 Heartland wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:26 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:25 Rollora wrote:
And Germany just shot the 1-0. 7 minutes before the end

Anything's possible in 7 minutes.


Just ask the Brazilian team hue hue hue

rude man :D

Could ask Puck too.

What happened to puCK?


Polt happened.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 13 2014 21:31 GMT
#1331
On July 14 2014 06:31 Rollora wrote:
are the finals played today or tomorrow?

Today I think.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 13 2014 21:32 GMT
#1332
On July 14 2014 06:31 Jazzman88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:30 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:30 Squat wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:29 Rollora wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:28 Heartland wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:26 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:25 Rollora wrote:
And Germany just shot the 1-0. 7 minutes before the end

Anything's possible in 7 minutes.


Just ask the Brazilian team hue hue hue

rude man :D

Could ask Puck too.

What happened to puCK?


Polt happened.

You mean Bomber.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 13 2014 21:32 GMT
#1333
On July 14 2014 06:31 Jazzman88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:30 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:30 Squat wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:29 Rollora wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:28 Heartland wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:26 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:25 Rollora wrote:
And Germany just shot the 1-0. 7 minutes before the end

Anything's possible in 7 minutes.


Just ask the Brazilian team hue hue hue

rude man :D

Could ask Puck too.

What happened to puCK?


Polt happened.


I thought it was Bomber.
kiss kiss fall in love
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
July 13 2014 21:32 GMT
#1334
Wintex not even watching ?
ForGG. 29/11/2014
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 13 2014 21:32 GMT
#1335
On July 14 2014 06:31 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:31 Rollora wrote:
are the finals played today or tomorrow?

Today I think.

Today, yeah. I think that this event runs from Friday -> Sunday, 7/11 -> 7/13.
kiss kiss fall in love
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
July 13 2014 21:33 GMT
#1336
On July 14 2014 06:30 codonbyte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:25 Rollora wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:18 codonbyte wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:13 Rollora wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:09 codonbyte wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:03 Rollora wrote:
On July 14 2014 05:50 codonbyte wrote:
On July 14 2014 05:47 Rollora wrote:
On July 14 2014 05:43 codonbyte wrote:
On July 14 2014 05:39 Rollora wrote:
[quote]
i dunno bout that, games when I grew up were made for adults, games today (COD, Battlefield, autohealing and not being able to lose) are made for kids, which make it boring to play them.

idk, I think adults will always be a good market and there will be plenty of games for us. Especially this new generation of adults, who grew up with video games as kids and are already playing them. I know many adults in my parents generation didn't get into video games, and even look down on them (at least, most of the adults I knew, since I went to a weird school where none of the kids were allowed to play any video games).

you are definately right, the market just got bigger, the good games didn't go away.
But the kids nowadays, when I ask them about Doom, Unreal Tournament, Quake, Counterstrike, Deus Ex, STALKER, StarCraft or whatever they don't know and they don't want to know.
They know LoL, CoD and BF4 but in the end it is important that they switch to the game with some demanding gameplay, or will they stay with their ez games?

I know what you mean, man. The one video game I played a lot as a kid was Pokemon. A friend felt sorry for me since my parents didn't let me play video games at all and he gave me his old GBA and cartridges for Ruby and Fire Red. I kept that GBA hidden under a mattress in my room and played it a bunch when my parents weren't looking. I gotta say one of the things that was difficult about switching to Starcraft for me is that when laddering, no matter how good you get you'll only win 50% of the time.

The fact that in pokemon games you win virtually all of the in-game battles has kind of spoiled me, lol.

yeah, it is not the kids but the industries fault.
Learning to lose should be part of the game, not auto-win. To learn how to do it in a different way, when it doesn't work the way you trie it first. But with CoD like games (and autoheal) it is "rewarding" no matter how u play the game. It would be more rewarding if the victory is achieved harder from time to time, but that is how most games of today are designed.
I played Doom when I was 6, hell I shit my pants back then (I needed to wait until my parents go to bed, went to the computer room in our house and played until the level was finished (couldn't stop playing before that, or the demons would come at night and get me).
I died a hundread deaths but it was worth it, after playing through it you really felt like being a hero. That is why I hate CoD so much, it doesn't feel like I have done something special.
Back then I was more used to lose in games or almost every way cause I had an older brother who won against me in almost anything we did. Maybe that is why I don't cheese in SC2, I choose to do it the hard way, no matter if I lose.
50% winning/losing is a good concept I think.


Yeah man, I've been trying to get back into laddering. It's stupid how discouraged I get when I lose at SC2. Kind of pathetic really that I mostly still just play the AI. I've been trying to learn a new hotkey layout (TheCore), but I'm never able to stick with laddering long enough to learn it. Last time I laddered I stuck with it for about 3 days (Jakatak says it'll take at LEAST a week to learn the core) so now I kinda have to start over since I didn't really get anywhere last time. I tell ya man, ThePokemonSyndrome is a serious illness that games can suffer from, lol

As I am still searching for a research topic in my psychology studies for my dissertation, I will have a look into the influences of games onto gamers (from a not "games make you a killer" perspective), thx for the tip.

Hey no problem buddy. Yeah it would be nice to have a psychological study about gamers that isn't politically-motivated. I swear to god, if I see one more person on TV going on about how "omg it's so terrible what these evil video games are doing to kids these days. Look at how violent kids are these days! Blaah blaah blaah." Not to mention that according to Steven Pinker, violence has actually been steadily declining, in spite of what some might have you believe, and we currently have less violence in our society than we ever have.

wrote my first (for being a Bachelor) research paper on the influence of games, but it was more a physical thing (better reaction in some cases, better organisation and communication skills) not too deep into the psychological area.
And... you don't need to ask a single person for seeing that violence is declining, there are official statistics, provided by the US gov. that prove that.
http://theincidentaleconomist.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/violence-and-games-graph.gif

fun fact, you can google "violent crime rates US" or so and find out, that the crime rates are exploding after 1960 (TV reaches the masses) and declining from 1993 (Doom 1, Playstation) on. I don't say that there are connections, but well... make your own deep thoughts about that
There are tons of articles like that one on the web, but they don't get published in the mass media - unfortunately
http://theincidentaleconomist.com/wordpress/its-not-the-video-games/

Thanks for the articles, man. Yeah, society is pretty stupid when it comes to scapegoating video-games. Do you think any crazy anti-video-game laws will ever be passed as a result of this video-game hysteria?

Also, why aren't these articles published in the mass-media? You'd think controversial articles would attract attention and be good for ratings.

sure man. I collected hundreds of these once.
Also there are studied "experts" like "Manfred Spitzer" who are absolute idiots on that field and talk completely against the facts.
I also liked this article and the graphic at the end
http://www.joanganzcooneycenter.org/2013/01/23/the-risks-of-launching-a-research-project-at-a-time-of-moral-panic/
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
July 13 2014 21:33 GMT
#1337
On July 14 2014 06:32 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:31 Jazzman88 wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:30 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:30 Squat wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:29 Rollora wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:28 Heartland wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:26 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:25 Rollora wrote:
And Germany just shot the 1-0. 7 minutes before the end

Anything's possible in 7 minutes.


Just ask the Brazilian team hue hue hue

rude man :D

Could ask Puck too.

What happened to puCK?


Polt happened.


I thought it was Bomber.


You are correct. It was Terran, I was just delirious from happiness at watching Protoss lose.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 13 2014 21:33 GMT
#1338
On July 14 2014 06:33 Jazzman88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:32 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:31 Jazzman88 wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:30 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:30 Squat wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:29 Rollora wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:28 Heartland wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:26 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:25 Rollora wrote:
And Germany just shot the 1-0. 7 minutes before the end

Anything's possible in 7 minutes.


Just ask the Brazilian team hue hue hue

rude man :D

Could ask Puck too.

What happened to puCK?


Polt happened.


I thought it was Bomber.


You are correct. It was Terran, I was just delirious from happiness at watching Protoss lose.


Polt's a good race to be, apparently.
kiss kiss fall in love
Rain.100
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany946 Posts
July 13 2014 21:33 GMT
#1339
GG
I have to return some videotapes. Maru and MarineLorD <3
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10135 Posts
July 13 2014 21:33 GMT
#1340
On July 14 2014 06:20 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:19 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:18 sAsImre wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:18 TheDwf wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:17 sAsImre wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:16 TheDwf wrote:
Possibility of a TvT final, possibility of Bomber winning it. All conditions are there for the great crash.


3-0 into 3-4 ? A shame we won't see Bomber tvt on alterzim, his shit is stupidly enjoyable.

That sounds about right: the first player to ever lose a bo5 after being up 3-0.


only bomber could overcome my silliness.

Naniwa lost 0-1 in a Bo5... anything's on the cards.


pretty sure Startale fan could tell us a story about a won game that doesn't count too.

/raises and shakes his fists
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