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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 13 2014 21:19 GMT
#1301
On July 14 2014 06:18 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:18 TheDwf wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:17 sAsImre wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:16 TheDwf wrote:
Possibility of a TvT final, possibility of Bomber winning it. All conditions are there for the great crash.


3-0 into 3-4 ? A shame we won't see Bomber tvt on alterzim, his shit is stupidly enjoyable.

That sounds about right: the first player to ever lose a bo5 after being up 3-0.


only bomber could overcome my silliness.

Naniwa lost 0-1 in a Bo5... anything's on the cards.
kiss kiss fall in love
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-13 21:20:25
July 13 2014 21:19 GMT
#1302
Are both stream (youtube & twitch) not working atm?
Edit: twitch working again for me
ForGG. 29/11/2014
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 13 2014 21:20 GMT
#1303
On July 14 2014 06:19 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:18 sAsImre wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:18 TheDwf wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:17 sAsImre wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:16 TheDwf wrote:
Possibility of a TvT final, possibility of Bomber winning it. All conditions are there for the great crash.


3-0 into 3-4 ? A shame we won't see Bomber tvt on alterzim, his shit is stupidly enjoyable.

That sounds about right: the first player to ever lose a bo5 after being up 3-0.


only bomber could overcome my silliness.

Naniwa lost 0-1 in a Bo5... anything's on the cards.


pretty sure Startale fan could tell us a story about a won game that doesn't count too.
Zest fanboy.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 13 2014 21:20 GMT
#1304
On July 14 2014 06:18 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:18 TheDwf wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:17 sAsImre wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:16 TheDwf wrote:
Possibility of a TvT final, possibility of Bomber winning it. All conditions are there for the great crash.


3-0 into 3-4 ? A shame we won't see Bomber tvt on alterzim, his shit is stupidly enjoyable.

That sounds about right: the first player to ever lose a bo5 after being up 3-0.


only bomber could overcome my silliness.

Honestly I just don't see Bomber losing to viOLet's incredibly shaky ZvT. If viOLet doesn't win with cheeses it feels like another 3-0.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 13 2014 21:21 GMT
#1305
On July 14 2014 06:19 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:18 sAsImre wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:18 TheDwf wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:17 sAsImre wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:16 TheDwf wrote:
Possibility of a TvT final, possibility of Bomber winning it. All conditions are there for the great crash.


3-0 into 3-4 ? A shame we won't see Bomber tvt on alterzim, his shit is stupidly enjoyable.

That sounds about right: the first player to ever lose a bo5 after being up 3-0.


only bomber could overcome my silliness.

Naniwa lost 0-1 in a Bo5... anything's on the cards.

And GuMiho went 1-1 in a bo1... 1-0 Zest, 0-1 booth.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 13 2014 21:22 GMT
#1306
On July 14 2014 06:20 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:18 sAsImre wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:18 TheDwf wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:17 sAsImre wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:16 TheDwf wrote:
Possibility of a TvT final, possibility of Bomber winning it. All conditions are there for the great crash.


3-0 into 3-4 ? A shame we won't see Bomber tvt on alterzim, his shit is stupidly enjoyable.

That sounds about right: the first player to ever lose a bo5 after being up 3-0.


only bomber could overcome my silliness.

Honestly I just don't see Bomber losing to viOLet's incredibly shaky ZvT. If viOLet doesn't win with cheeses it feels like another 3-0.


you don't cheese bomber he builds tanks for that reason :p
Zest fanboy.
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
July 13 2014 21:22 GMT
#1307
On July 14 2014 06:20 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:19 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:18 sAsImre wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:18 TheDwf wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:17 sAsImre wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:16 TheDwf wrote:
Possibility of a TvT final, possibility of Bomber winning it. All conditions are there for the great crash.


3-0 into 3-4 ? A shame we won't see Bomber tvt on alterzim, his shit is stupidly enjoyable.

That sounds about right: the first player to ever lose a bo5 after being up 3-0.


only bomber could overcome my silliness.

Naniwa lost 0-1 in a Bo5... anything's on the cards.


pretty sure Startale fan could tell us a story about a won game that doesn't count too.

MKP denied everything
ForGG. 29/11/2014
codonbyte
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States840 Posts
July 13 2014 21:22 GMT
#1308
On July 14 2014 06:19 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:18 sAsImre wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:18 TheDwf wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:17 sAsImre wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:16 TheDwf wrote:
Possibility of a TvT final, possibility of Bomber winning it. All conditions are there for the great crash.


3-0 into 3-4 ? A shame we won't see Bomber tvt on alterzim, his shit is stupidly enjoyable.

That sounds about right: the first player to ever lose a bo5 after being up 3-0.


only bomber could overcome my silliness.

Naniwa lost 0-1 in a Bo5... anything's on the cards.

How did Naniwa lose 0-1 in Bo5? Did he get disqualified or something?
Procrastination is the enemy
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 13 2014 21:23 GMT
#1309
On July 14 2014 06:22 codonbyte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:19 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:18 sAsImre wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:18 TheDwf wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:17 sAsImre wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:16 TheDwf wrote:
Possibility of a TvT final, possibility of Bomber winning it. All conditions are there for the great crash.


3-0 into 3-4 ? A shame we won't see Bomber tvt on alterzim, his shit is stupidly enjoyable.

That sounds about right: the first player to ever lose a bo5 after being up 3-0.


only bomber could overcome my silliness.

Naniwa lost 0-1 in a Bo5... anything's on the cards.

How did Naniwa lose 0-1 in Bo5? Did he get disqualified or something?

He complained about the soundproofing and forfeited the rest of the series, only to get released from [A] and retired shortly afterwards.
kiss kiss fall in love
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
July 13 2014 21:23 GMT
#1310
On July 14 2014 06:22 codonbyte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:19 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:18 sAsImre wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:18 TheDwf wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:17 sAsImre wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:16 TheDwf wrote:
Possibility of a TvT final, possibility of Bomber winning it. All conditions are there for the great crash.


3-0 into 3-4 ? A shame we won't see Bomber tvt on alterzim, his shit is stupidly enjoyable.

That sounds about right: the first player to ever lose a bo5 after being up 3-0.


only bomber could overcome my silliness.

Naniwa lost 0-1 in a Bo5... anything's on the cards.

How did Naniwa lose 0-1 in Bo5? Did he get disqualified or something?


Just Google 'Naniwa quits after 1 game' and you will not be disappointed.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
July 13 2014 21:24 GMT
#1311
On July 14 2014 06:23 Jazzman88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:22 codonbyte wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:19 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:18 sAsImre wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:18 TheDwf wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:17 sAsImre wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:16 TheDwf wrote:
Possibility of a TvT final, possibility of Bomber winning it. All conditions are there for the great crash.


3-0 into 3-4 ? A shame we won't see Bomber tvt on alterzim, his shit is stupidly enjoyable.

That sounds about right: the first player to ever lose a bo5 after being up 3-0.


only bomber could overcome my silliness.

Naniwa lost 0-1 in a Bo5... anything's on the cards.

How did Naniwa lose 0-1 in Bo5? Did he get disqualified or something?


Just Google 'Naniwa quits after 1 game' and you will not be disappointed.

Could just google "Naniwa" tbh.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
codonbyte
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States840 Posts
July 13 2014 21:24 GMT
#1312
On July 14 2014 06:23 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:22 codonbyte wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:19 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:18 sAsImre wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:18 TheDwf wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:17 sAsImre wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:16 TheDwf wrote:
Possibility of a TvT final, possibility of Bomber winning it. All conditions are there for the great crash.


3-0 into 3-4 ? A shame we won't see Bomber tvt on alterzim, his shit is stupidly enjoyable.

That sounds about right: the first player to ever lose a bo5 after being up 3-0.


only bomber could overcome my silliness.

Naniwa lost 0-1 in a Bo5... anything's on the cards.

How did Naniwa lose 0-1 in Bo5? Did he get disqualified or something?

He complained about the soundproofing and forfeited the rest of the series, only to get released from [A] and retired shortly afterwards.

Damn, that's sad that he ended his gaming career that way.
Procrastination is the enemy
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
July 13 2014 21:25 GMT
#1313
On July 14 2014 06:18 codonbyte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:13 Rollora wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:09 codonbyte wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:03 Rollora wrote:
On July 14 2014 05:50 codonbyte wrote:
On July 14 2014 05:47 Rollora wrote:
On July 14 2014 05:43 codonbyte wrote:
On July 14 2014 05:39 Rollora wrote:
On July 14 2014 05:36 codonbyte wrote:
On July 14 2014 05:33 Rollora wrote:
[quote]
why mindblown?
28, PhD, my wife who is also online from time to time is 36.
You don't need to be 15 to play SC2 it's not like it is brood war or so

Edit: this is good news though, means I'll still be enjoying video games when I'm 50 :D

i dunno bout that, games when I grew up were made for adults, games today (COD, Battlefield, autohealing and not being able to lose) are made for kids, which make it boring to play them.

idk, I think adults will always be a good market and there will be plenty of games for us. Especially this new generation of adults, who grew up with video games as kids and are already playing them. I know many adults in my parents generation didn't get into video games, and even look down on them (at least, most of the adults I knew, since I went to a weird school where none of the kids were allowed to play any video games).

you are definately right, the market just got bigger, the good games didn't go away.
But the kids nowadays, when I ask them about Doom, Unreal Tournament, Quake, Counterstrike, Deus Ex, STALKER, StarCraft or whatever they don't know and they don't want to know.
They know LoL, CoD and BF4 but in the end it is important that they switch to the game with some demanding gameplay, or will they stay with their ez games?

I know what you mean, man. The one video game I played a lot as a kid was Pokemon. A friend felt sorry for me since my parents didn't let me play video games at all and he gave me his old GBA and cartridges for Ruby and Fire Red. I kept that GBA hidden under a mattress in my room and played it a bunch when my parents weren't looking. I gotta say one of the things that was difficult about switching to Starcraft for me is that when laddering, no matter how good you get you'll only win 50% of the time.

The fact that in pokemon games you win virtually all of the in-game battles has kind of spoiled me, lol.

yeah, it is not the kids but the industries fault.
Learning to lose should be part of the game, not auto-win. To learn how to do it in a different way, when it doesn't work the way you trie it first. But with CoD like games (and autoheal) it is "rewarding" no matter how u play the game. It would be more rewarding if the victory is achieved harder from time to time, but that is how most games of today are designed.
I played Doom when I was 6, hell I shit my pants back then (I needed to wait until my parents go to bed, went to the computer room in our house and played until the level was finished (couldn't stop playing before that, or the demons would come at night and get me).
I died a hundread deaths but it was worth it, after playing through it you really felt like being a hero. That is why I hate CoD so much, it doesn't feel like I have done something special.
Back then I was more used to lose in games or almost every way cause I had an older brother who won against me in almost anything we did. Maybe that is why I don't cheese in SC2, I choose to do it the hard way, no matter if I lose.
50% winning/losing is a good concept I think.


Yeah man, I've been trying to get back into laddering. It's stupid how discouraged I get when I lose at SC2. Kind of pathetic really that I mostly still just play the AI. I've been trying to learn a new hotkey layout (TheCore), but I'm never able to stick with laddering long enough to learn it. Last time I laddered I stuck with it for about 3 days (Jakatak says it'll take at LEAST a week to learn the core) so now I kinda have to start over since I didn't really get anywhere last time. I tell ya man, ThePokemonSyndrome is a serious illness that games can suffer from, lol

As I am still searching for a research topic in my psychology studies for my dissertation, I will have a look into the influences of games onto gamers (from a not "games make you a killer" perspective), thx for the tip.

Hey no problem buddy. Yeah it would be nice to have a psychological study about gamers that isn't politically-motivated. I swear to god, if I see one more person on TV going on about how "omg it's so terrible what these evil video games are doing to kids these days. Look at how violent kids are these days! Blaah blaah blaah." Not to mention that according to Steven Pinker, violence has actually been steadily declining, in spite of what some might have you believe, and we currently have less violence in our society than we ever have.

wrote my first (for being a Bachelor) research paper on the influence of games, but it was more a physical thing (better reaction in some cases, better organisation and communication skills) not too deep into the psychological area.
And... you don't need to ask a single person for seeing that violence is declining, there are official statistics, provided by the US gov. that prove that.
http://theincidentaleconomist.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/violence-and-games-graph.gif

fun fact, you can google "violent crime rates US" or so and find out, that the crime rates are exploding after 1960 (TV reaches the masses) and declining from 1993 (Doom 1, Playstation) on. I don't say that there are connections, but well... make your own deep thoughts about that
There are tons of articles like that one on the web, but they don't get published in the mass media - unfortunately
http://theincidentaleconomist.com/wordpress/its-not-the-video-games/
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
July 13 2014 21:25 GMT
#1314
On July 14 2014 06:24 codonbyte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:23 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:22 codonbyte wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:19 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:18 sAsImre wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:18 TheDwf wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:17 sAsImre wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:16 TheDwf wrote:
Possibility of a TvT final, possibility of Bomber winning it. All conditions are there for the great crash.


3-0 into 3-4 ? A shame we won't see Bomber tvt on alterzim, his shit is stupidly enjoyable.

That sounds about right: the first player to ever lose a bo5 after being up 3-0.


only bomber could overcome my silliness.

Naniwa lost 0-1 in a Bo5... anything's on the cards.

How did Naniwa lose 0-1 in Bo5? Did he get disqualified or something?

He complained about the soundproofing and forfeited the rest of the series, only to get released from [A] and retired shortly afterwards.

Damn, that's sad that he ended his gaming career that way.


But totally in keeping with the way his career was conducted.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-13 21:26:25
July 13 2014 21:25 GMT
#1315
And Germany just shot the 1-0. 7 minutes before the end
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
July 13 2014 21:26 GMT
#1316
On July 14 2014 06:23 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:22 codonbyte wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:19 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:18 sAsImre wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:18 TheDwf wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:17 sAsImre wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:16 TheDwf wrote:
Possibility of a TvT final, possibility of Bomber winning it. All conditions are there for the great crash.


3-0 into 3-4 ? A shame we won't see Bomber tvt on alterzim, his shit is stupidly enjoyable.

That sounds about right: the first player to ever lose a bo5 after being up 3-0.


only bomber could overcome my silliness.

Naniwa lost 0-1 in a Bo5... anything's on the cards.

How did Naniwa lose 0-1 in Bo5? Did he get disqualified or something?

He complained about the soundproofing and forfeited the rest of the series, only to get released from [A] and retired shortly afterwards.

Scoober, who was the huge favorite at that time would have loved Naniwa's spot.
ForGG. 29/11/2014
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
July 13 2014 21:26 GMT
#1317
Germany scores 113'
Trans Rights
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 13 2014 21:26 GMT
#1318
On July 14 2014 06:25 Rollora wrote:
And Germany just shot the 1-0. 7 minutes before the end

Anything's possible in 7 minutes.
kiss kiss fall in love
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24603 Posts
July 13 2014 21:27 GMT
#1319
On July 14 2014 06:25 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 06:18 codonbyte wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:13 Rollora wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:09 codonbyte wrote:
On July 14 2014 06:03 Rollora wrote:
On July 14 2014 05:50 codonbyte wrote:
On July 14 2014 05:47 Rollora wrote:
On July 14 2014 05:43 codonbyte wrote:
On July 14 2014 05:39 Rollora wrote:
On July 14 2014 05:36 codonbyte wrote:
[quote]
Edit: this is good news though, means I'll still be enjoying video games when I'm 50 :D

i dunno bout that, games when I grew up were made for adults, games today (COD, Battlefield, autohealing and not being able to lose) are made for kids, which make it boring to play them.

idk, I think adults will always be a good market and there will be plenty of games for us. Especially this new generation of adults, who grew up with video games as kids and are already playing them. I know many adults in my parents generation didn't get into video games, and even look down on them (at least, most of the adults I knew, since I went to a weird school where none of the kids were allowed to play any video games).

you are definately right, the market just got bigger, the good games didn't go away.
But the kids nowadays, when I ask them about Doom, Unreal Tournament, Quake, Counterstrike, Deus Ex, STALKER, StarCraft or whatever they don't know and they don't want to know.
They know LoL, CoD and BF4 but in the end it is important that they switch to the game with some demanding gameplay, or will they stay with their ez games?

I know what you mean, man. The one video game I played a lot as a kid was Pokemon. A friend felt sorry for me since my parents didn't let me play video games at all and he gave me his old GBA and cartridges for Ruby and Fire Red. I kept that GBA hidden under a mattress in my room and played it a bunch when my parents weren't looking. I gotta say one of the things that was difficult about switching to Starcraft for me is that when laddering, no matter how good you get you'll only win 50% of the time.

The fact that in pokemon games you win virtually all of the in-game battles has kind of spoiled me, lol.

yeah, it is not the kids but the industries fault.
Learning to lose should be part of the game, not auto-win. To learn how to do it in a different way, when it doesn't work the way you trie it first. But with CoD like games (and autoheal) it is "rewarding" no matter how u play the game. It would be more rewarding if the victory is achieved harder from time to time, but that is how most games of today are designed.
I played Doom when I was 6, hell I shit my pants back then (I needed to wait until my parents go to bed, went to the computer room in our house and played until the level was finished (couldn't stop playing before that, or the demons would come at night and get me).
I died a hundread deaths but it was worth it, after playing through it you really felt like being a hero. That is why I hate CoD so much, it doesn't feel like I have done something special.
Back then I was more used to lose in games or almost every way cause I had an older brother who won against me in almost anything we did. Maybe that is why I don't cheese in SC2, I choose to do it the hard way, no matter if I lose.
50% winning/losing is a good concept I think.


Yeah man, I've been trying to get back into laddering. It's stupid how discouraged I get when I lose at SC2. Kind of pathetic really that I mostly still just play the AI. I've been trying to learn a new hotkey layout (TheCore), but I'm never able to stick with laddering long enough to learn it. Last time I laddered I stuck with it for about 3 days (Jakatak says it'll take at LEAST a week to learn the core) so now I kinda have to start over since I didn't really get anywhere last time. I tell ya man, ThePokemonSyndrome is a serious illness that games can suffer from, lol

As I am still searching for a research topic in my psychology studies for my dissertation, I will have a look into the influences of games onto gamers (from a not "games make you a killer" perspective), thx for the tip.

Hey no problem buddy. Yeah it would be nice to have a psychological study about gamers that isn't politically-motivated. I swear to god, if I see one more person on TV going on about how "omg it's so terrible what these evil video games are doing to kids these days. Look at how violent kids are these days! Blaah blaah blaah." Not to mention that according to Steven Pinker, violence has actually been steadily declining, in spite of what some might have you believe, and we currently have less violence in our society than we ever have.

wrote my first (for being a Bachelor) research paper on the influence of games, but it was more a physical thing (better reaction in some cases, better organisation and communication skills) not too deep into the psychological area.
And... you don't need to ask a single person for seeing that violence is declining, there are official statistics, provided by the US gov. that prove that.
http://theincidentaleconomist.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/violence-and-games-graph.gif

fun fact, you can google "violent crime rates US" or so and find out, that the crime rates are exploding after 1960 (TV reaches the masses) and declining from 1993 (Doom 1, Playstation) on. I don't say that there are connections, but well... make your own deep thoughts about that
There are tons of articles like that one on the web, but they don't get published in the mass media - unfortunately
http://theincidentaleconomist.com/wordpress/its-not-the-video-games/


A popular theory is that the computer makes people (or rather, men, who are the vast majority of all criminal perpetrators) stay in their homes where random criminal acts, drunken violence against others in bar brawls, etc. are less likely.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
July 13 2014 21:28 GMT
#1320
I said Germany was going to win back in Mars. Just saying.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
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