On June 26 2014 07:54 Zealously wrote:
Then you should stop watching before he plays
Then you should stop watching before he plays

Blasphemy. The Creator of the Universe will smite the mightiest of TL mods.
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On June 26 2014 07:54 Zealously wrote: Show nested quote + On June 26 2014 07:50 Bongy wrote: I don't watch sc2 even half as often as I did before, but it's always a delight when NesTea is back at bigger events Then you should stop watching before he plays ![]() Blasphemy. The Creator of the Universe will smite the mightiest of TL mods. | ||
AWalker9
United Kingdom7229 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 26 2014 07:54 ThomasjServo wrote: Topic: Is ZvZ destined to fall into a formulaic match up with a single unit composition? Pretty much what happened in BW as well. Seems like it tt | ||
chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On June 26 2014 07:52 coL.hendralisk wrote: Show nested quote + On June 26 2014 07:48 chipmonklord17 wrote: On June 26 2014 07:47 KingofdaHipHop wrote: On June 26 2014 07:45 ThomasjServo wrote: Did hydras come out at all that match? Hydras never come out in ZvZ anymore, after they were used a lot more after the patch went through, it's just went back to pure roach v roach. Not sure why tho. I don't get it at all. Even my plat-dia understanding of the game says if Revival built a hydra den when he first went across the map (the battle vs 7 queens) and just made roach hydra vs hyuns roach he would have rolled him. I don't think either player can float the resources to make the hydra den and then make a high enough hydra count to make a diff without dying to roach That would make sense. But shouldn't Revival be safe (relatively, it still is Hyun) if he had just traded and ran instead of trying to push the issue? Hyun was really low on roaches | ||
PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On June 26 2014 07:55 Zealously wrote: Show nested quote + On June 26 2014 07:54 ThomasjServo wrote: Topic: Is ZvZ destined to fall into a formulaic match up with a single unit composition? Pretty much what happened in BW as well. Seems like it tt That was my thought process. Roach on roach is the new (but kind of old) muta ling scourge. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 26 2014 07:54 ThomasjServo wrote: Topic: Is ZvZ destined to fall into a formulaic match up with a single unit composition? Well we did nerf fungal. | ||
ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On June 26 2014 07:56 stuchiu wrote: Show nested quote + On June 26 2014 07:54 ThomasjServo wrote: Topic: Is ZvZ destined to fall into a formulaic match up with a single unit composition? Well we did nerf fungal. Soon, roaches are un-fungle-able. (Too many hyphens for comfort) | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On June 26 2014 07:53 The_Templar wrote: 2:00 Hatchery after spawning pool from both players. 3:00 Queen for both players. Revival has more APM. 4:00 HyuN mined some gas and researched zergling speed. HyuN sending a drone to the gold base, taking it. 5:00 Roach warren! and an evolution chamber and extractor for Revival. Lair for Revival as well as a second evolution chamber. 6:00 Revival scouts the gold. HyuN got a lair as well and a roach warren. HyuN sends lots of drones to the gold. 8:00 ![]() ![]() Roach speed and +1 attack from both players. Revival takes his gold base. Roach roach. HyuN getting even more roaches. 9:00 ![]() ![]() Revival never used his second evolution chamber. Revival attacks and gets promptly surrounded, losing roaches to HyuN's roaches. HyuN chases Revival's roaches with his roaches to the watchtower. 20 zerglings! and more roaches for HyuN. 10:00 ![]() ![]() HyuN clearing creep. HyuN sends roaches and his zerglings to Revival's general bases. Transfuses on Revival's roaches. HyuN reinforces with zerglings. More roaches for both players. HyuN killing more roaches of Revival. | ||
KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On June 26 2014 07:54 ThomasjServo wrote: Topic: Is ZvZ destined to fall into a formulaic match up with a single unit composition? Have you seen Scarlett's recent ZvZ's? Quite different if you ask me. | ||
PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
On June 26 2014 07:57 ThomasjServo wrote: Show nested quote + On June 26 2014 07:56 stuchiu wrote: On June 26 2014 07:54 ThomasjServo wrote: Topic: Is ZvZ destined to fall into a formulaic match up with a single unit composition? Well we did nerf fungal. Soon, roaches are un-fungle-able. (Too many hyphens for comfort) What would be a decent way to change the meta from pure Roach? A slight buff to Hydras? | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On June 26 2014 07:57 The_Templar wrote: Show nested quote + On June 26 2014 07:53 The_Templar wrote: On June 26 2014 07:49 The_Templar wrote: ![]() ![]() 2:00 Hatchery after spawning pool from both players. 3:00 Queen for both players. Revival has more APM. 4:00 HyuN mined some gas and researched zergling speed. HyuN sending a drone to the gold base, taking it. 5:00 Roach warren! and an evolution chamber and extractor for Revival. Lair for Revival as well as a second evolution chamber. 6:00 Revival scouts the gold. HyuN got a lair as well and a roach warren. HyuN sends lots of drones to the gold. 8:00 ![]() ![]() Roach speed and +1 attack from both players. Revival takes his gold base. Roach roach. HyuN getting even more roaches. 9:00 ![]() ![]() Revival never used his second evolution chamber. Revival attacks and gets promptly surrounded, losing roaches to HyuN's roaches. HyuN chases Revival's roaches with his roaches to the watchtower. 20 zerglings! and more roaches for HyuN. 10:00 ![]() ![]() HyuN clearing creep. HyuN sends roaches and his zerglings to Revival's general bases. Transfuses on Revival's roaches. HyuN reinforces with zerglings. More roaches for both players. HyuN killing more roaches of Revival. 12:00 ![]() ![]() Revival's roaches get surrounded by zerglings and more roaches from HyuN. HyuN has out-roached Revival. HyuN moves roaches into Revival's roach-like natural. Revival runs out of roaches and GG's! HyuN wins 2-0! | ||
Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On June 26 2014 07:55 Zealously wrote: Show nested quote + On June 26 2014 07:54 ThomasjServo wrote: Topic: Is ZvZ destined to fall into a formulaic match up with a single unit composition? Pretty much what happened in BW as well. Seems like it tt At least muta/ling/scourge was fast paced and really micro intensive. Massed roach fights are like watching two drunk hillbillies at a local tough man contest in rural Oklahoma wing haymakers until one of them falls over. Also Hyun made more roaches than Revival, and is therefore your winner. | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
Poll: Recommend HyuN vs Revival Game 2? ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4) ★★★- Good game (2) ★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend HyuN vs Revival Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what Poll: Recommend HyuN vs Revival Game 3? ★★★★- Highly recommended game (3) ★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) ★★★- Good game (1) ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend HyuN vs Revival Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what | ||
Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
On June 26 2014 07:58 PhoenixVoid wrote: Show nested quote + On June 26 2014 07:57 ThomasjServo wrote: On June 26 2014 07:56 stuchiu wrote: On June 26 2014 07:54 ThomasjServo wrote: Topic: Is ZvZ destined to fall into a formulaic match up with a single unit composition? Well we did nerf fungal. Soon, roaches are un-fungle-able. (Too many hyphens for comfort) What would be a decent way to change the meta from pure Roach? A slight buff to Hydras? nerf to spores vs bio? | ||
KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On June 26 2014 07:58 PhoenixVoid wrote: Show nested quote + On June 26 2014 07:57 ThomasjServo wrote: On June 26 2014 07:56 stuchiu wrote: On June 26 2014 07:54 ThomasjServo wrote: Topic: Is ZvZ destined to fall into a formulaic match up with a single unit composition? Well we did nerf fungal. Soon, roaches are un-fungle-able. (Too many hyphens for comfort) What would be a decent way to change the meta from pure Roach? A slight buff to Hydras? Nah, they buffed hydras already, don't want to be OP against Protoss (actually, that would be nice ![]() | ||
PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
On June 26 2014 07:58 Squat wrote: Show nested quote + On June 26 2014 07:55 Zealously wrote: On June 26 2014 07:54 ThomasjServo wrote: Topic: Is ZvZ destined to fall into a formulaic match up with a single unit composition? Pretty much what happened in BW as well. Seems like it tt At least muta/ling/scourge was fast paced and really micro intensive. Massed roach fights are like watching two drunk hillbillies at a local tough man contest in rural Oklahoma wing haymakers until one of them falls over. Also Hyun made more roaches than Revival, and is therefore your winner. Little more complicated than that, he had to concave slightly at least. | ||
Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
On June 26 2014 07:54 ThomasjServo wrote: Topic: Is ZvZ destined to fall into a formulaic match up with a single unit composition? Topic: Hey, there's a WCS group on with 3 really talented players! Let's talk about it! | ||
Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On June 26 2014 07:57 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Show nested quote + On June 26 2014 07:54 ThomasjServo wrote: Topic: Is ZvZ destined to fall into a formulaic match up with a single unit composition? Have you seen Scarlett's recent ZvZ's? Quite different if you ask me. Her stalker/zealot all in was pretty fucking genius. | ||
chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On June 26 2014 07:58 PhoenixVoid wrote: Show nested quote + On June 26 2014 07:57 ThomasjServo wrote: On June 26 2014 07:56 stuchiu wrote: On June 26 2014 07:54 ThomasjServo wrote: Topic: Is ZvZ destined to fall into a formulaic match up with a single unit composition? Well we did nerf fungal. Soon, roaches are un-fungle-able. (Too many hyphens for comfort) What would be a decent way to change the meta from pure Roach? A slight buff to Hydras? I would be curious about the repercussions of giving infested terrans upgrades again. Maybe not actual range/armor upgrades but something at the infestation pit similar to hi sect auto tracking or durable materials | ||
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