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[WCS AM] Ro16 Group B Premier Season 2 2014 - Page 8

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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 25 2014 23:00 GMT
#141
On June 26 2014 07:59 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 07:57 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On June 26 2014 07:54 ThomasjServo wrote:
Topic: Is ZvZ destined to fall into a formulaic match up with a single unit composition?

Have you seen Scarlett's recent ZvZ's? Quite different if you ask me.

Her stalker/zealot all in was pretty fucking genius.

Not what I was referencing but that too I guess.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
June 25 2014 23:00 GMT
#142
On June 26 2014 07:58 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 07:58 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On June 26 2014 07:57 ThomasjServo wrote:
On June 26 2014 07:56 stuchiu wrote:
On June 26 2014 07:54 ThomasjServo wrote:
Topic: Is ZvZ destined to fall into a formulaic match up with a single unit composition?


Well we did nerf fungal.

Soon, roaches are un-fungle-able. (Too many hyphens for comfort)

What would be a decent way to change the meta from pure Roach? A slight buff to Hydras?

nerf to spores vs bio?

Ugh please no, mass Muta isn't that enjoyable to play against.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
June 25 2014 23:01 GMT
#143
hey guys its time for mass banelings
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
June 25 2014 23:01 GMT
#144
On June 26 2014 07:58 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 07:57 ThomasjServo wrote:
On June 26 2014 07:56 stuchiu wrote:
On June 26 2014 07:54 ThomasjServo wrote:
Topic: Is ZvZ destined to fall into a formulaic match up with a single unit composition?


Well we did nerf fungal.

Soon, roaches are un-fungle-able. (Too many hyphens for comfort)

What would be a decent way to change the meta from pure Roach? A slight buff to Hydras?

Revert or lower the asinine spore buff. Mutas are now limited to overlord cleanup, it took such a massive chunk of potential strats out of the game. I'd watch muta/ling over mass roach any day.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-25 23:02:02
June 25 2014 23:01 GMT
#145
On June 26 2014 07:58 The_Templar wrote:
Poll: Recommend HyuN vs Revival Game 2?

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
 
67%

★★★- Good game (2)
 
33%

★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend HyuN vs Revival Game 2?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


Poll: Recommend HyuN vs Revival Game 3?

★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
 
43%

★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
14%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
 
14%

★★★- Good game (1)
 
14%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
 
14%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend HyuN vs Revival Game 3?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season




vote please
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 25 2014 23:02 GMT
#146
If you really wanted to change ZvZ comps, change the maps.

All of these maps are all PvZ friendly. Give me Antiga or TDA and you'll get Nestea vs DRG or DRG vs Effort games.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 25 2014 23:02 GMT
#147
On June 26 2014 07:58 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 07:55 Zealously wrote:
On June 26 2014 07:54 ThomasjServo wrote:
Topic: Is ZvZ destined to fall into a formulaic match up with a single unit composition?


Pretty much what happened in BW as well. Seems like it tt

At least muta/ling/scourge was fast paced and really micro intensive. Massed roach fights are like watching two drunk hillbillies at a local tough man contest in rural Oklahoma wing haymakers until one of them falls over.

Also Hyun made more roaches than Revival, and is therefore your winner.


Ling/bane knifefights was the best kind of ZvZ of all time, all games. I like your roach analogy, though, quite fitting.
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-25 23:05:33
June 25 2014 23:04 GMT
#148
On June 26 2014 08:02 stuchiu wrote:
If you really wanted to change ZvZ comps, change the maps.

All of these maps are all PvZ friendly. Give me Antiga or TDA and you'll get Nestea vs DRG or DRG vs Effort games.

#bringbackantiga. I remember that map at its peak, one of the best examples of controlling the center to win in SC2. I would actually love a retro map revival.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
June 25 2014 23:05 GMT
#149
On June 26 2014 08:01 Xinzoe wrote:
hey guys its time for mass banelings

hey it's pvz
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
June 25 2014 23:05 GMT
#150
On June 26 2014 08:02 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 07:58 Squat wrote:
On June 26 2014 07:55 Zealously wrote:
On June 26 2014 07:54 ThomasjServo wrote:
Topic: Is ZvZ destined to fall into a formulaic match up with a single unit composition?


Pretty much what happened in BW as well. Seems like it tt

At least muta/ling/scourge was fast paced and really micro intensive. Massed roach fights are like watching two drunk hillbillies at a local tough man contest in rural Oklahoma wing haymakers until one of them falls over.

Also Hyun made more roaches than Revival, and is therefore your winner.


Ling/bane knifefights was the best kind of ZvZ of all time, all games. I like your roach analogy, though, quite fitting.

Yeah, it was exciting and games could change direction at the drop of a hat. A player who was down could turn everything around with a few magic bane hits. Now, if you are down on roaches and your 2+ is late, you can hope your opponent engages like a clown and not much else.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 25 2014 23:06 GMT
#151
On June 26 2014 08:05 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 08:01 Xinzoe wrote:
hey guys its time for mass banelings

hey it's pvz

Ok…? So?
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TL+ Member
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
June 25 2014 23:06 GMT
#152
On June 26 2014 08:02 stuchiu wrote:
If you really wanted to change ZvZ comps, change the maps.

All of these maps are all PvZ friendly. Give me Antiga or TDA and you'll get Nestea vs DRG or DRG vs Effort games.

So if we delete protoss, we could have decent ZvZ? Fuck it, I'm in.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 25 2014 23:07 GMT
#153
On June 26 2014 08:06 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 08:02 stuchiu wrote:
If you really wanted to change ZvZ comps, change the maps.

All of these maps are all PvZ friendly. Give me Antiga or TDA and you'll get Nestea vs DRG or DRG vs Effort games.

So if we delete protoss, we could have decent ZvZ? Fuck it, I'm in.


That must have been a terribly difficult decision to make.
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 25 2014 23:07 GMT
#154
On June 26 2014 08:06 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 08:02 stuchiu wrote:
If you really wanted to change ZvZ comps, change the maps.

All of these maps are all PvZ friendly. Give me Antiga or TDA and you'll get Nestea vs DRG or DRG vs Effort games.

So if we delete protoss, we could have decent ZvZ? Fuck it, I'm in.

Sounds like a win win to me.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Bongy
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark151 Posts
June 25 2014 23:08 GMT
#155
On June 26 2014 08:04 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 08:02 stuchiu wrote:
If you really wanted to change ZvZ comps, change the maps.

All of these maps are all PvZ friendly. Give me Antiga or TDA and you'll get Nestea vs DRG or DRG vs Effort games.

#bringbackantiga. I remember that map at its peak, one of the best examples of controlling the center to win in SC2. I would actually love a retro map revival.


It'd be very interesting to see how the old maps would be played nowadays.. And even in LotV
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 25 2014 23:08 GMT
#156
On June 26 2014 08:06 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 08:02 stuchiu wrote:
If you really wanted to change ZvZ comps, change the maps.

All of these maps are all PvZ friendly. Give me Antiga or TDA and you'll get Nestea vs DRG or DRG vs Effort games.

So if we delete protoss, we could have decent ZvZ? Fuck it, I'm in.

No thank you. I've played protoss for years and it's the most fun race for me. >.>
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TL+ Member
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
June 25 2014 23:08 GMT
#157
On June 26 2014 08:06 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 08:05 Undead1993 wrote:
On June 26 2014 08:01 Xinzoe wrote:
hey guys its time for mass banelings

hey it's pvz

Ok…? So?

the last time i checked mass banes were bad against forcefields
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 25 2014 23:08 GMT
#158
On June 26 2014 08:08 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 08:06 The_Templar wrote:
On June 26 2014 08:05 Undead1993 wrote:
On June 26 2014 08:01 Xinzoe wrote:
hey guys its time for mass banelings

hey it's pvz

Ok…? So?

the last time i checked mass banes were bad against forcefields

That's easy. Neural a probe and get high templars to feedback all the sentries.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
June 25 2014 23:08 GMT
#159
On June 26 2014 08:08 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 08:06 The_Templar wrote:
On June 26 2014 08:05 Undead1993 wrote:
On June 26 2014 08:01 Xinzoe wrote:
hey guys its time for mass banelings

hey it's pvz

Ok…? So?

the last time i checked mass banes were bad against forcefields


it doesnt matter nestea banelings are massive units
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
June 25 2014 23:09 GMT
#160
Has there in the history of SC2 ever been a like 40 minute knifefight that never went above 25 drone total saturation the entire game? 38 minutes of pure, non stop action? That'd be instant #1 of the year.
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