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Tanzklaue
Germany1433 Posts
On April 27 2014 19:36 DinosaurJones wrote: So... is the general consensus just that MC did not deserve to win? He just isn`t a good player, and won because of his op race? only kespa player is good player. | ||
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On April 27 2014 19:34 Tanzklaue wrote: tod man. i would cry and scream in ecstatic joy if he would win. People only want tod for foreigner win ( I like Tod and want to see him go far) But no one can understand how bad I want Inno to win | ||
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Rollora
2450 Posts
On April 27 2014 19:27 pure.Wasted wrote: Lmao, balance isn't some mystical spiritual experience. It's a fact, the game's either balanced or it's not. If the legitimacy of esports is so fragile that talking about the fact of its artificial design endangers it, then esports doesn't deserve to be legitimate. Fortunately I couldn't agree less with your point. I disagree a bit. You can try to balance the game in every matchup in every situation, but because there will never be the same situations have in the exact same way again and again. But ESPECIALLY because the races are designed so different, beginning with economy, but also with how their health regens (or not) how to macro (warpin across the map, vs creating 7 units a time from a 300 mineral building, vs 1-2 units a time etc etc), flying buildings, mules, cronoboost, one race not required to micro hard where the other one has etc leads to one race having less apm in average while it may require other skills (thinking process) I believe it can never be balanced 100% | ||
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pmp10
3402 Posts
On April 27 2014 19:36 DinosaurJones wrote: So... is the general consensus just that MC did not deserve to win? He just isn`t a good player, and won because of his op race? Being a good player doesn't always mean you deserved your win. | ||
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vrok
Sweden2541 Posts
On April 27 2014 19:37 GumBa wrote: People only want tod for foreigner win ( I like Tod and want to see him go far) But no one can understand how bad I want Inno to win Prove how badly. We require a sacrificial puppy or kitten. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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DinosaurJones
United States1000 Posts
Yeah, MC is so skilless and plays that bullshit op race. Never mind that he has been a consistent player since the early days of SC2, it is only because he plays Toss! | ||
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Beta2k
Austria218 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On April 27 2014 19:38 vrok wrote: Prove how badly. We require a sacrificial puppy or kitten. My kittwn has already been sacrifices. I am keeping my dog for the final | ||
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
On April 27 2014 19:36 DinosaurJones wrote: So... is the general consensus just that MC did not deserve to win? He just isn`t a good player, and won because of his op race? Is there ever a real general consensus anywhere on TL? For me, MC won. He earned it. As to how he did it, I don't know apart from being able to get the better of some key engagements and TY perhaps being conservative when he had an advantage. But, I could be wrong. I'll definitely have to watch that game again. TL strategy should do one of their spotlight pieces on it too. That game deserves one. It was a great game of Starcraft. Anyway, G'night. Stay frosty y'all. | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On April 27 2014 19:38 GumBa wrote: Is inno on next cant look at stream right now!? Right after JD-Zanster on main stream. | ||
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Rollora
2450 Posts
you cannot balance the game around winrates cause it just doesn't reflect the players skill therefore not balance. If you make a ladder system, that ranks you up and down depending on your winrate, ofc you'll always have 50% winrate and therefore are "balanced", although you may be only 5 years old and press the same button all over again, and the other player is a 20 yo korean pro. So would that be balance? Winrates don't prove anything by themself. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
I'll allow him to win DH only with ZvZ now | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
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Heavenlee
United States966 Posts
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NaldoR
Singapore2198 Posts
Never change geoff | ||
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
On April 27 2014 19:35 SatedSC2 wrote: Aligulac tracks pretty much all tournament results. It is far from MaruvP. Yes, but there aren't as many Terrans to track!!! When MMA makes a deep tournament run beating up 10 crappy foreign Protoss and Zerg in the process, Terran win percentage is artificially inflated! There are not as many crappy foreign Terrans to beat up. PvT winrate does not get inflated the same way. The Maru example was just a simplification of what is going on, there are fewer Terrans and this skews the balance numbers like craaazy. | ||
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Kerence
Sweden1817 Posts
On April 27 2014 19:40 Rollora wrote: you cannot balance the game around winrates cause it just doesn't reflect the players skill therefore not balance. If you make a ladder system, that ranks you up and down depending on your winrate, ofc you'll always have 50% winrate and therefore are "balanced", although you may be only 5 years old and press the same button all over again, and the other player is a 20 yo korean pro. So would that be balance? Winrates don't prove anything by themself. Why are you talking about ladder win rates when Aligulac only counts tournaments? | ||
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