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lamprey1
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada919 Posts
April 12 2014 19:35 GMT
#761
u look up the word "1st class" in the dictionary, and there is a picture of tod.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-12 19:35:52
April 12 2014 19:35 GMT
#762
On April 13 2014 04:34 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 04:18 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 13 2014 04:14 Frex wrote:
On April 13 2014 04:12 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 13 2014 04:10 Qwerty85 wrote:
On April 13 2014 04:09 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 13 2014 03:58 sage_francis wrote:
last 8 tvp's i watched (alicia vs bomber + this), protoss never take a third ^^


Why would they, they'll lose.

You realise Rain wasn't just whining when he said Terran is OP in the matchup? He was referring to late game. Alicia and CranK told me the exact same thing, playing a macro game against a top Terran is suicide. Of course Protoss are trying to kill Terran before that point. The old "Broodlord/Infestor" analogy that Korean Protoss are making right now is surprisingly accurate. Back in the IPL5 days, Terran were trying to kill Zerg before BL/Infestor. Now Protoss are trying to kill Terran before 3/3 Biomine.


You cant be serious TB.


Yeah what would I know, I'm only posting the opinions of top Korean protoss players. I can't possibly know what's going on.


Terran is strong in later stages right now. But do you feel this match-up is in good position then?

I mean if all these complaints are true from these pro protoss players then I guess series like these will get much more popular.



No the matchup is in an awful position. Any matchup in which one race is predominantly playing 1-2 base because the players are actually afraid of going for a longer game is one that has some problems. Unfortunately we don't get to see enough of those games to really get that impression. Seriously, outside of games on Alterzim, you are seeing so few long PvTs. We might even end up seeing another Terran buff because of that and then I have a feeling things will swing back in the other direction hard once Terran can regularly get to the later game without dying.

In your league this might be true.


Yes yes very cute. Call me when your bronzelogic is somehow more valid than the opinions of people like Rain, CranK and Alicia.

I'd take his bronzelogic opinion over Rain's opinion any day. I can't take someone who says that Terran was overpowered BEFORE the widowmine patch seriously.

Well depends on which patch you go back to :p Barracks before supply depot was pretty shit to play against back in the day.
w3c.TruE
Profile Joined November 2013
Czech Republic1055 Posts
April 12 2014 19:36 GMT
#763
I don't know who to cheer for. I like San's playstyle, but on the other hand, MMA...
Dream, Dark, herO, PartinG, RorO, Bbyong, Rain, soO, PtitDrogo <3. Goodbye RorO, MC you were awesome! You will be remembered!
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-12 19:38:25
April 12 2014 19:36 GMT
#764
Can you take the tvp discussion to the balance thread and talk about the game or at least say something funny pls.

Prime sucks and Startale too. Any takers?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
April 12 2014 19:36 GMT
#765
I liked that attack, got 4 sentries.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 12 2014 19:36 GMT
#766
On April 13 2014 04:35 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 04:34 royalroadweed wrote:
On April 13 2014 04:18 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 13 2014 04:14 Frex wrote:
On April 13 2014 04:12 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 13 2014 04:10 Qwerty85 wrote:
On April 13 2014 04:09 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 13 2014 03:58 sage_francis wrote:
last 8 tvp's i watched (alicia vs bomber + this), protoss never take a third ^^


Why would they, they'll lose.

You realise Rain wasn't just whining when he said Terran is OP in the matchup? He was referring to late game. Alicia and CranK told me the exact same thing, playing a macro game against a top Terran is suicide. Of course Protoss are trying to kill Terran before that point. The old "Broodlord/Infestor" analogy that Korean Protoss are making right now is surprisingly accurate. Back in the IPL5 days, Terran were trying to kill Zerg before BL/Infestor. Now Protoss are trying to kill Terran before 3/3 Biomine.


You cant be serious TB.


Yeah what would I know, I'm only posting the opinions of top Korean protoss players. I can't possibly know what's going on.


Terran is strong in later stages right now. But do you feel this match-up is in good position then?

I mean if all these complaints are true from these pro protoss players then I guess series like these will get much more popular.



No the matchup is in an awful position. Any matchup in which one race is predominantly playing 1-2 base because the players are actually afraid of going for a longer game is one that has some problems. Unfortunately we don't get to see enough of those games to really get that impression. Seriously, outside of games on Alterzim, you are seeing so few long PvTs. We might even end up seeing another Terran buff because of that and then I have a feeling things will swing back in the other direction hard once Terran can regularly get to the later game without dying.

In your league this might be true.


Yes yes very cute. Call me when your bronzelogic is somehow more valid than the opinions of people like Rain, CranK and Alicia.

I'd take his bronzelogic opinion over Rain's opinion any day. I can't take someone who says that Terran was overpowered BEFORE the widowmine patch seriously.

Well depends on which patch you go back to :p Barracks before supply depot was pretty shit to play against back in the day.


Thank god no one but BitByBit realized how good it was.
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TR
Profile Joined February 2011
2320 Posts
April 12 2014 19:36 GMT
#767
On April 13 2014 04:26 ThomasjServo wrote:
MMA with a Filco board?

Yep it's a Filco.
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
April 12 2014 19:36 GMT
#768
those forcefield were pretty good but the marines were like

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Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-12 19:37:14
April 12 2014 19:36 GMT
#769
On April 13 2014 04:36 Musicus wrote:
Can you take the tvp discussion to the balance thread and talk about the game or at least say something funny pls.

Prime sucks and Startale too. Ayn takers?

U want to be killed or what
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Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1120 Posts
April 12 2014 19:36 GMT
#770
gogo [Acer]MMA!
'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
April 12 2014 19:36 GMT
#771
On April 13 2014 04:33 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 04:29 The_Templar wrote:
WCS EU Premier RO4

(T)MMA vs (P)San
0-0


Map: Heavy Rain


San spawns in the bottom
MMA spawns in the top

2:00
Fast gas after barracks for MMA.
San getting a slightly later assimilator after his gateway.

3:00
Cybernetics core on the way for San.
MMA getting a reactor on his barracks.
Two reapers for MMA.
San gets his natural nexus down.
Mothership core being chronoboosted out.
MMA expanding.

4:00
Two more reapers for MMA. Mass reaper TvP?
Stalker on the way for San.
One reaper walks into the main base of San.
Twilight council is seen by the reaper.
MMA switches to marines.

5:00
Two more barracks finishing for MMA.
4 reapers walk into the main and kill a stalker and a probe or two.
Reapers die to overcharge + good building placement.

6:00
Blink for San.
MMA researching stim.
MMA breaking the closer rock tower.
Proxy pylon for San. The probe reveals itself.

7:00 (T)MMA 54 vs (P)San 42
San only going up to 3 gateways.
Robotics facility for San.
San breaks his rock tower.
San cancelled his proxy pylon.

8:00 (T)MMA 65 vs (P)San 54
Engineering bay for MMA.
MMA going for some pressure.
MMA trying to force overcharge but San is threatening to lock him in with FFs.
MMA stimming in anyway.

9:00 (T)MMA 70 vs (P)San 64
FF on the main ramp.
MMA is pushed back.
Double forge for San.
MMA getting a starport.
MMA getting +1 attack and concussive shells.
MMA getting a third CC.

10:00 (T)MMA 77 vs (P)San 76
Robotics bay for San.
Two more gateways on the way.
MMA building two more barracks.
MMA adding on medivacs.
MMA scans the main of San again.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-12 19:37:42
April 12 2014 19:37 GMT
#772
On April 13 2014 04:36 Musicus wrote:
Can you take the tvp discussion to the balance thread and talk about the game or at least say something funny pls.

Prime sucks and Startale too. Ayn takers?


Team MVP is Injustice League and Swagger is superior to Coach Park in every way in SC2.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
April 12 2014 19:37 GMT
#773
On April 13 2014 04:36 Musicus wrote:
Can you take the tvp discussion to the balance thread and talk about the game or at least say something funny pls.

Prime sucks and Startale too. Ayn takers?

Only Ayn I know is Ayn Rand.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
April 12 2014 19:37 GMT
#774
On April 13 2014 04:36 Musicus wrote:
Can you take the tvp discussion to the balance thread and talk about the game or at least say something funny pls.

Prime sucks and Startale too. Ayn takers?


how could you say that OMG OMG Marineking is so handesome, and his proxy raxes never get old, even after four years he's still the man.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
EthanS
Profile Joined February 2011
United States206 Posts
April 12 2014 19:38 GMT
#775
On April 13 2014 04:34 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 04:32 stuchiu wrote:
On April 13 2014 04:31 Morbidius wrote:
I've seen terrans winning more in the late game recently without mines...


The fear of the mine makes Protoss not play the superior zealot/ht/archon/cllosus style I think.

Its what i thought happened.


Protoss micro vs mines is getting better, as is better control of observers. Toss were letting their detection slip a lot against terran. Toss will build those skills within a few weeks.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
April 12 2014 19:38 GMT
#776
On April 13 2014 04:36 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 04:35 ThomasjServo wrote:
On April 13 2014 04:34 royalroadweed wrote:
On April 13 2014 04:18 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 13 2014 04:14 Frex wrote:
On April 13 2014 04:12 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 13 2014 04:10 Qwerty85 wrote:
On April 13 2014 04:09 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 13 2014 03:58 sage_francis wrote:
last 8 tvp's i watched (alicia vs bomber + this), protoss never take a third ^^


Why would they, they'll lose.

You realise Rain wasn't just whining when he said Terran is OP in the matchup? He was referring to late game. Alicia and CranK told me the exact same thing, playing a macro game against a top Terran is suicide. Of course Protoss are trying to kill Terran before that point. The old "Broodlord/Infestor" analogy that Korean Protoss are making right now is surprisingly accurate. Back in the IPL5 days, Terran were trying to kill Zerg before BL/Infestor. Now Protoss are trying to kill Terran before 3/3 Biomine.


You cant be serious TB.


Yeah what would I know, I'm only posting the opinions of top Korean protoss players. I can't possibly know what's going on.


Terran is strong in later stages right now. But do you feel this match-up is in good position then?

I mean if all these complaints are true from these pro protoss players then I guess series like these will get much more popular.



No the matchup is in an awful position. Any matchup in which one race is predominantly playing 1-2 base because the players are actually afraid of going for a longer game is one that has some problems. Unfortunately we don't get to see enough of those games to really get that impression. Seriously, outside of games on Alterzim, you are seeing so few long PvTs. We might even end up seeing another Terran buff because of that and then I have a feeling things will swing back in the other direction hard once Terran can regularly get to the later game without dying.

In your league this might be true.


Yes yes very cute. Call me when your bronzelogic is somehow more valid than the opinions of people like Rain, CranK and Alicia.

I'd take his bronzelogic opinion over Rain's opinion any day. I can't take someone who says that Terran was overpowered BEFORE the widowmine patch seriously.

Well depends on which patch you go back to :p Barracks before supply depot was pretty shit to play against back in the day.


Thank god no one but BitByBit realized how good it was.

He was ahead of the meta, I remember knowing nothing about the game and having that happen with reapers, when reapers were really able to fuck a worker line, and kill lings.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
April 12 2014 19:38 GMT
#777
On April 13 2014 04:38 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 04:36 stuchiu wrote:
On April 13 2014 04:35 ThomasjServo wrote:
On April 13 2014 04:34 royalroadweed wrote:
On April 13 2014 04:18 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 13 2014 04:14 Frex wrote:
On April 13 2014 04:12 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 13 2014 04:10 Qwerty85 wrote:
On April 13 2014 04:09 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 13 2014 03:58 sage_francis wrote:
last 8 tvp's i watched (alicia vs bomber + this), protoss never take a third ^^


Why would they, they'll lose.

You realise Rain wasn't just whining when he said Terran is OP in the matchup? He was referring to late game. Alicia and CranK told me the exact same thing, playing a macro game against a top Terran is suicide. Of course Protoss are trying to kill Terran before that point. The old "Broodlord/Infestor" analogy that Korean Protoss are making right now is surprisingly accurate. Back in the IPL5 days, Terran were trying to kill Zerg before BL/Infestor. Now Protoss are trying to kill Terran before 3/3 Biomine.


You cant be serious TB.


Yeah what would I know, I'm only posting the opinions of top Korean protoss players. I can't possibly know what's going on.


Terran is strong in later stages right now. But do you feel this match-up is in good position then?

I mean if all these complaints are true from these pro protoss players then I guess series like these will get much more popular.



No the matchup is in an awful position. Any matchup in which one race is predominantly playing 1-2 base because the players are actually afraid of going for a longer game is one that has some problems. Unfortunately we don't get to see enough of those games to really get that impression. Seriously, outside of games on Alterzim, you are seeing so few long PvTs. We might even end up seeing another Terran buff because of that and then I have a feeling things will swing back in the other direction hard once Terran can regularly get to the later game without dying.

In your league this might be true.


Yes yes very cute. Call me when your bronzelogic is somehow more valid than the opinions of people like Rain, CranK and Alicia.

I'd take his bronzelogic opinion over Rain's opinion any day. I can't take someone who says that Terran was overpowered BEFORE the widowmine patch seriously.

Well depends on which patch you go back to :p Barracks before supply depot was pretty shit to play against back in the day.


Thank god no one but BitByBit realized how good it was.

He was ahead of the meta, I remember knowing nothing about the game and having that happen with reapers, when reapers were really able to fuck a worker line, and kill lings.

BoxeR build in TvT was great.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
April 12 2014 19:39 GMT
#778
On April 13 2014 04:36 TR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 04:26 ThomasjServo wrote:
MMA with a Filco board?

Yep it's a Filco.

That is what I thought. Looked like my Leopold but with a bit different spacing and there is actually a logo on top as well.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 12 2014 19:39 GMT
#779
On April 13 2014 04:37 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 04:36 Musicus wrote:
Can you take the tvp discussion to the balance thread and talk about the game or at least say something funny pls.

Prime sucks and Startale too. Ayn takers?

Only Ayn I know is Ayn Rand.


Ew Ayn Rand
AdministratorBreak the chains
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
April 12 2014 19:39 GMT
#780
On April 13 2014 04:36 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 04:36 Musicus wrote:
Can you take the tvp discussion to the balance thread and talk about the game or at least say something funny pls.

Prime sucks and Startale too. Ayn takers?

U want to be killed or what


Thank you, already feels better .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
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