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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On April 11 2014 07:07 Tossim111 wrote: Pretty silly that the most scariest building in the game is worth 100 minerals and takes 17 secs to build Bunkers take 40 seconds to build. | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On April 11 2014 07:02 SC2Toastie wrote: TvP is indeed a guessing game if you don't bother to scout. Just like the other matchups. What about the prior games where he did scout and still lost to cheese? Plus I can see why he didn't bother scv scouting on frost. Protoss likely has units by the time the scv reaches his base if you find his base last. No excuse for not scanning though. | ||
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FuRRie
Belgium815 Posts
On April 11 2014 07:06 MasterOfPuppets wrote: It's only ok to cheese/all-in if you're a player that people like.  ah right, fanboyism, I forgot about that little factoid. I just wanna see fun games with a wonky strat, and some upsets now and then. :D | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On April 11 2014 07:07 BlackCompany wrote: You better start getting used to fighting with robots because sooner or later Skynet will try to kill us Don't worry. We're countering that threat with a zombie apocalypse and then counter that threat with a massive natural disaster and then counter that with a meteor that will hit earth and then counter that with 30 oil drillers and 1 astronaut. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
He's talking about pylons! Capt. Obvious F T W ! | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On April 11 2014 07:07 BlackCompany wrote: You better start getting used to fighting with robots because sooner or later Skynet will try to kill us Shellnet will never try to kill us <3 | ||
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Tossim111
United States246 Posts
On April 11 2014 07:06 SC2Toastie wrote: At all. 7 Gateways in a main. No gasses at natural. Pylons near your base. Nexus? Seriously. Stop whining. *Scouts 7 gates at 8 minutes... prepare for blink all in | ||
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ClueClueClue
Sweden1203 Posts
Sounds a bit too short, tbh. Nerf plz | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On April 11 2014 07:07 SC2Toastie wrote: I like longer games as well, all ins are pretty black/white in who wins or loses usually. And a series of 5 all ins is boring to watch... It's usually waitwaitwait ah he's gonna win wait wait he won ezpz thanks for those 15 minuts. If there's one thing I'll concede, it's that more cheesy games should turn out like Mvp vs Squirtle on Atlantis Spaceship. | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
On April 11 2014 07:06 SC2Toastie wrote: At all. 7 Gateways in a main. No gasses at natural. Pylons near your base. Nexus? Seriously. Stop whining. Sneak an scv into the natural which would die so thats out. Scan the main at the right time even though three of the gates could've just as easily been in the natural. Or the twilight could have been in the natural. I'm just saying it wasn't all because of no scouting | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On April 11 2014 07:09 MasterOfPuppets wrote: If there's one thing I'll concede, it's that more cheesy games should turn out like Mvp vs Squirtle on Atlantis Spaceship. It took him 6 games to set that up. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On April 11 2014 07:00 TotalBiscuit wrote: "I should be able to defend every Protoss all-in with just one bunker and no scouting, otherwise Protoss op" actually P defends every all in without scouting by playing safe in pvt. | ||
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Crot4le
England2927 Posts
On April 11 2014 07:00 partydude89 wrote: I want Alicia to lose. I don't care who wins anymore, i just want Alicia to be out. Butthurt much? | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On April 11 2014 07:08 royalroadweed wrote: What about the prior games where he did scout and still lost to cheese? Plus I can see why he didn't bother scv scouting on frost. Protoss likely has units by the time the scv reaches his base if you find his base last. No excuse for not scanning though. Like, which games, exactly? Habitation he didn't scout it. Polar Night he died because he played too defensive Yeonsu pylon held, misplay by Alicia Frost no scout Forgot the last game already xD Ah, Heavy Rain, in which he scouted the all in and won? pattern? | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On April 11 2014 07:09 Darkhorse wrote: The main issue here is that I am now sub 50% on predictions so far. I'm 0-3 and extremely happy with it. | ||
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
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Qwerty85
Croatia5536 Posts
On April 11 2014 07:01 Negius wrote: This. Bomber didn't scout. I like him, but that was the mistake that cost him the game. Oh come on. It comes down to protoss deciding to do a build order because he knows it is 12 repaer expand or maybe cc 1st on big 4 player maps 99% of the time and the rest is up to the terran. If you manage to scout you have a chance of winning, if you don't you straight up lose. Protoss has little to worry about. Early game should be neutral not favored for any race because it sets the pace for the rest of the game. And the early game TvP is just very unforgiving for terran, reducing the problem just to scouting when you are watching pro level players is such a dumb argument. Even if Bomber went for a 12/12 reaper expo to have better scouting he would still behind against a player who went for a nexus 1st build. 12/12 is not really economical build, especially compared to nexus 1st..... Yes, you can get a better or worse end of a build order in any matchup but TvP is specific because terran is forced to go into 12/12 basically every game, you don't have much choice about it. | ||
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