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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
March 15 2014 17:36 GMT
#3201
On March 16 2014 02:32 chatuka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 02:31 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:30 chatuka wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:28 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:28 liberate71 wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:27 sharkie wrote:
This is probably one of the best tournaments (game-wise) of all time and we get no viewers

Thank you IEM for this stupid format


The format is arguably what makes for these games though

No. These games aren't good because of the format...

yup, players will not play half-ass. they will fight to the death for 100K. love the gladiator aspect of this tournament. more bread and circuses, virtual circuses

Did you watch IEM Cologne? Sick games and the format was different. The players make the games not the format. Thinking this "gladiator aspect" is doing this to the games is just stupid.

i disagree. players will play their absolute best for 100K. no relax games, or full foreigner games will be at a minimal. it's good to see the audience will watch players play for something on the line. Like Poker


This isn't the case tho. Players still try their best if the difference in winning was only 20K. If you think players are 'throwing' because it isn't a 100K tournament, I suggest you take a look at how much these players make. And there have been just as many 'throws' in this tournament as other with same caliber players.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
March 15 2014 17:36 GMT
#3202
On March 16 2014 02:36 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 02:35 Undead1993 wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:35 BigFan wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:30 sharkie wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:29 Veldril wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:27 sharkie wrote:
This is probably one of the best tournaments (game-wise) of all time and we get no viewers

Thank you IEM for this stupid format


We got around 65k people watching + a lot of viewer at the event. I would say the number is not bad.


nowhere near 100k...

why does this matter?

viewers number must be equal to the prize pool, else it's not a successful tournament

So was Blizzcon just a massive failure?

devastating from the economic point of view
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
March 15 2014 17:37 GMT
#3203
Can you Smell what Life is Cooking!
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
March 15 2014 17:37 GMT
#3204
On March 16 2014 02:35 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 02:30 sharkie wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:29 Veldril wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:27 sharkie wrote:
This is probably one of the best tournaments (game-wise) of all time and we get no viewers

Thank you IEM for this stupid format


We got around 65k people watching + a lot of viewer at the event. I would say the number is not bad.


nowhere near 100k...

why does this matter?

If you can't brag about being the biggest, what's the point in liking something?

/s
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
March 15 2014 17:37 GMT
#3205
On March 16 2014 02:36 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 02:35 BigFan wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:30 sharkie wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:29 Veldril wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:27 sharkie wrote:
This is probably one of the best tournaments (game-wise) of all time and we get no viewers

Thank you IEM for this stupid format


We got around 65k people watching + a lot of viewer at the event. I would say the number is not bad.


nowhere near 100k...

why does this matter?

Because LoL and DOTA 2 get them ergo SC2 needs to be comparable or exceed the numbers otherwise it is a dead game.

lol and dota are team sports. so just multiply SC2 numbers by 5, and that is the ratio SC2 should be judged by IMO.


Team sports are always goingt to be bigger than individual sports atm
ArTiFaKs
Profile Joined September 2013
United States1229 Posts
March 15 2014 17:37 GMT
#3206
On March 16 2014 02:36 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 02:35 BigFan wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:30 sharkie wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:29 Veldril wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:27 sharkie wrote:
This is probably one of the best tournaments (game-wise) of all time and we get no viewers

Thank you IEM for this stupid format


We got around 65k people watching + a lot of viewer at the event. I would say the number is not bad.


nowhere near 100k...

why does this matter?

Because LoL and DOTA 2 get them ergo SC2 needs to be comparable or exceed the numbers otherwise it is a dead game.


Except compared to the playerbase SC2 gets an enormous percentage of the playerbase that watches it's esport. LoL gets an extremely small number compared to playerbase probably around 1-3% compared to SC2 which is like 35--50% actually. DOTA 2 isn't anywhere near that either.
There are things known, and things unknown, and in-between are the doors.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
March 15 2014 17:37 GMT
#3207
On March 16 2014 02:36 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 02:36 IntoTheheart wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:35 Undead1993 wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:35 BigFan wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:30 sharkie wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:29 Veldril wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:27 sharkie wrote:
This is probably one of the best tournaments (game-wise) of all time and we get no viewers

Thank you IEM for this stupid format


We got around 65k people watching + a lot of viewer at the event. I would say the number is not bad.


nowhere near 100k...

why does this matter?

viewers number must be equal to the prize pool, else it's not a successful tournament

So was Blizzcon just a massive failure?

devastating from the economic point of view


You could almost say... cataclysmic
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
March 15 2014 17:37 GMT
#3208
On March 16 2014 02:36 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 02:35 Undead1993 wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:35 BigFan wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:30 sharkie wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:29 Veldril wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:27 sharkie wrote:
This is probably one of the best tournaments (game-wise) of all time and we get no viewers

Thank you IEM for this stupid format


We got around 65k people watching + a lot of viewer at the event. I would say the number is not bad.


nowhere near 100k...

why does this matter?

viewers number must be equal to the prize pool, else it's not a successful tournament

For every viewer, like, or share on Facebook we will donate 1 esports dollar to the prize pool~

1 like =1 prayer for SC2
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
March 15 2014 17:38 GMT
#3209
On March 16 2014 02:32 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 02:28 Qwerty85 wrote:
That was pretty good game by Taeja. His defense was great, his army movement on the map as well. I just didn't like those hellbats in the mix since eventually you need marauders. And making hellbats and marauders got him into trouble against all those mutas.

WM are still the better choice + maraduers can snipe hatches way faster and tank more bane shots.

I think he would have an easier time if he changed his army composition a bit.

also, I wouldn't be surprised if Life wasted 3x more resources than Taeja...


But hellbats pretty much make ling surrounds useless. If you looked at the army comps, it was actually Life that had to use a more banelings heavy comp with less lings because of the hellbats.


They are better and more reliable against ground army but as you saw, mutas will give you so much trouble in such scenario.
Life probably wasted 3x more resources than Taeja but mutas kept him in the game for a long time.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
March 15 2014 17:38 GMT
#3210
This Reaper would have probably killed the whole mineral line by 12'.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
March 15 2014 17:38 GMT
#3211
On March 16 2014 02:37 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 02:36 Shellshock wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:35 Undead1993 wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:35 BigFan wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:30 sharkie wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:29 Veldril wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:27 sharkie wrote:
This is probably one of the best tournaments (game-wise) of all time and we get no viewers

Thank you IEM for this stupid format


We got around 65k people watching + a lot of viewer at the event. I would say the number is not bad.


nowhere near 100k...

why does this matter?

viewers number must be equal to the prize pool, else it's not a successful tournament

For every viewer, like, or share on Facebook we will donate 1 esports dollar to the prize pool~

1 like =1 prayer for SC2

prayer for the lost and the lonely?
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
March 15 2014 17:38 GMT
#3212
On March 16 2014 02:37 chatuka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 02:36 ThomasjServo wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:35 BigFan wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:30 sharkie wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:29 Veldril wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:27 sharkie wrote:
This is probably one of the best tournaments (game-wise) of all time and we get no viewers

Thank you IEM for this stupid format


We got around 65k people watching + a lot of viewer at the event. I would say the number is not bad.


nowhere near 100k...

why does this matter?

Because LoL and DOTA 2 get them ergo SC2 needs to be comparable or exceed the numbers otherwise it is a dead game.

lol and dota are team sports. so just multiply SC2 numbers by 5, and that is the ratio SC2 should be judged by IMO.


Team sports are always goingt to be bigger than individual sports atm



On March 16 2014 02:37 ArTiFaKs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 02:36 ThomasjServo wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:35 BigFan wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:30 sharkie wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:29 Veldril wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:27 sharkie wrote:
This is probably one of the best tournaments (game-wise) of all time and we get no viewers

Thank you IEM for this stupid format


We got around 65k people watching + a lot of viewer at the event. I would say the number is not bad.


nowhere near 100k...

why does this matter?

Because LoL and DOTA 2 get them ergo SC2 needs to be comparable or exceed the numbers otherwise it is a dead game.


Except compared to the playerbase SC2 gets an enormous percentage of the playerbase that watches it's esport. LoL gets an extremely small number compared to playerbase probably around 1-3% compared to SC2 which is like 35--50% actually. DOTA 2 isn't anywhere near that either.


I was being hyperbolic, didn't come across X___x
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
March 15 2014 17:38 GMT
#3213
On March 16 2014 02:35 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 02:34 Squat wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:31 Embir wrote:
It is first SC2 tournament I am watching since last year and I must admint SC2 is still the best e-sport out there.
Awesome game.

This is what happens when you take a top terran and top zerg, throw them together and get lucky because no one went mech or swarm hosts. Then, magic happens.


mech is pretty awesome when its played awesome.

Not all mech is boring :D

It all depends on the zerg tbh. If he/she responds with SH, it kind of almost always becomes a stinker. If they go mass muta/roach, it can can get very interesting indeed.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
March 15 2014 17:38 GMT
#3214
On March 16 2014 02:37 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 02:36 Shellshock wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:35 Undead1993 wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:35 BigFan wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:30 sharkie wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:29 Veldril wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:27 sharkie wrote:
This is probably one of the best tournaments (game-wise) of all time and we get no viewers

Thank you IEM for this stupid format


We got around 65k people watching + a lot of viewer at the event. I would say the number is not bad.


nowhere near 100k...

why does this matter?

viewers number must be equal to the prize pool, else it's not a successful tournament

For every viewer, like, or share on Facebook we will donate 1 esports dollar to the prize pool~

1 like =1 prayer for SC2

hahahahhahaha :D
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
March 15 2014 17:38 GMT
#3215
On March 16 2014 02:33 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 02:31 stuchiu wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:30 chatuka wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:28 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:28 liberate71 wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:27 sharkie wrote:
This is probably one of the best tournaments (game-wise) of all time and we get no viewers

Thank you IEM for this stupid format


The format is arguably what makes for these games though

No. These games aren't good because of the format...

yup, players will not play half-ass. they will fight to the death for 100K. love the gladiator aspect of this tournament. more bread and circuses, virtual circuses


Thanks Naniwa.

Now we know why some gladiators were losing back in the Antiquity. Their opponent could hear the crowd and defend their cheesy moves.

Well played
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
March 15 2014 17:39 GMT
#3216
On March 16 2014 02:37 chatuka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 02:36 ThomasjServo wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:35 BigFan wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:30 sharkie wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:29 Veldril wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:27 sharkie wrote:
This is probably one of the best tournaments (game-wise) of all time and we get no viewers

Thank you IEM for this stupid format


We got around 65k people watching + a lot of viewer at the event. I would say the number is not bad.


nowhere near 100k...

why does this matter?

Because LoL and DOTA 2 get them ergo SC2 needs to be comparable or exceed the numbers otherwise it is a dead game.

lol and dota are team sports. so just multiply SC2 numbers by 5, and that is the ratio SC2 should be judged by IMO.


Team sports are always goingt to be bigger than individual sports atm

That's probably the most flawed logic of all time.
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
March 15 2014 17:39 GMT
#3217
I don't think that was worth it for Life. ;_;
Hello
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
March 15 2014 17:39 GMT
#3218
That Tank committed suicide by using Siege Mode over the depot.
MattRz
Profile Joined April 2011
Chile1680 Posts
March 15 2014 17:39 GMT
#3219
this is looking good for Taeja, just keep cleaning
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake ♞
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
March 15 2014 17:40 GMT
#3220
On March 16 2014 02:36 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 02:32 chatuka wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:31 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:30 chatuka wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:28 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:28 liberate71 wrote:
On March 16 2014 02:27 sharkie wrote:
This is probably one of the best tournaments (game-wise) of all time and we get no viewers

Thank you IEM for this stupid format


The format is arguably what makes for these games though

No. These games aren't good because of the format...

yup, players will not play half-ass. they will fight to the death for 100K. love the gladiator aspect of this tournament. more bread and circuses, virtual circuses

Did you watch IEM Cologne? Sick games and the format was different. The players make the games not the format. Thinking this "gladiator aspect" is doing this to the games is just stupid.

i disagree. players will play their absolute best for 100K. no relax games, or full foreigner games will be at a minimal. it's good to see the audience will watch players play for something on the line. Like Poker


This isn't the case tho. Players still try their best if the difference in winning was only 20K. If you think players are 'throwing' because it isn't a 100K tournament, I suggest you take a look at how much these players make. And there have been just as many 'throws' in this tournament as other with same caliber players.

maybe you're right. but at least for me, i am watching this because of the intense nature of the tournament. Poker has the same effect as well. All or nothing. life or death. it becomes philosophical to a degree and that philosophy survive or perish resonates with me. Maybe that intensity will resonate with other people.

I think players do their best when there are less prize money, but when something is on the line, you will see emotions come out like what naniwa did. crying, laughing, it will come out and i think that is good for the sport. that is the drama
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