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[SPL] MVP vs KT - Round 1 2014 - Page 35

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Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
January 19 2014 13:57 GMT
#681
no interview or did i miss?
yo
fmod
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Cayman Islands330 Posts
January 19 2014 13:57 GMT
#682
On January 19 2014 22:55 Squat wrote:
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On January 19 2014 22:53 fmod wrote:
SC2 should have games like this more often. It's nice to see someone come back to good strategy and skill rather than some deathball vs deathball or build order losses. Too bad it rarely happens.

I agree, everyone should play terran.

what?
I don't particularly like you.
Caladan
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany1238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-19 13:58:34
January 19 2014 13:58 GMT
#683
On January 19 2014 22:53 fmod wrote:
SC2 should have games like this more often. It's nice to see someone come back to good strategy and skill rather than some deathball vs deathball or build order losses. Too bad it rarely happens.


Yeah. If we had these games more often, SC2 would be growing and not starving like it does atm.
TvZ and TvT are really nice match ups to watch.

Only problem is Protoss with its death ball mechanics, game play wise.
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
January 19 2014 13:58 GMT
#684
On January 19 2014 22:57 fmod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2014 22:55 Squat wrote:
On January 19 2014 22:53 fmod wrote:
SC2 should have games like this more often. It's nice to see someone come back to good strategy and skill rather than some deathball vs deathball or build order losses. Too bad it rarely happens.

I agree, everyone should play terran.

what?

actually thats brilliant, would stop all balance whining right there.
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Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
January 19 2014 13:58 GMT
#685
On January 19 2014 22:56 Green_25 wrote:
Holy shit best mech vs zerg game ever? Sick tank usage by Flash. Of course, he was really helped by the map, but still that was another level. That kind of mech is really fun to watch, just no mass raven and we are good.

Flash should just never play bio again in sc2, he sucks at it. Go back to your roots son.


Mvp
orvinreyes
Profile Joined June 2007
577 Posts
January 19 2014 13:58 GMT
#686
On January 19 2014 22:56 Loxley wrote:
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On January 19 2014 22:55 m0ck wrote:
DRG continuing his reign of mediocrity


Sorry I can't call anyone in that game mediocre, flash was struggling against a solid playing DRG.


DRG actually looked great early to mid game, but just failed so much at the tail-end
http://youtu.be/LfmrHTdXgK4
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-19 14:00:19
January 19 2014 13:58 GMT
#687
On January 19 2014 22:55 ETisME wrote:
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On January 19 2014 22:54 Zheryn wrote:
On January 19 2014 22:52 ETisME wrote:
i have warned the community about the possibilty that skyterran will be reached too easily with combined upgrade during hots beta, sadly no one cared much :p


Yeah, imagine if Flash hadn't thrown away 70 supply army for no reason. He'd have viking raven like 10 mins earlier and it'd been game.

not that i am complaining about this game though, great game, but skyterran needs to be a little harder to get imo.
imagine more tank run bys etc


It is hard to get into sky terran in general, however it works exceptionally well on that map because you can secure 5 bases easily. It has more to do with the map being crap than anything else.

Way too much unneeded DRG bashing, he played really well most of the game, but what trully killed him was letting the tank runbys do so much damage, he should have kept his 10 mutas alive and used them to shut down harass. Flash couldn't afford to do runbys and also keep his vikings around those runbys.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
January 19 2014 13:59 GMT
#688
DRG should have won after Flash decided to donate his mech army for a hatch. Incoming DRG emo stream.
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
January 19 2014 13:59 GMT
#689
On January 19 2014 22:58 Caladan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2014 22:53 fmod wrote:
SC2 should have games like this more often. It's nice to see someone come back to good strategy and skill rather than some deathball vs deathball or build order losses. Too bad it rarely happens.


Yeah. If we had these games more often, SC2 would be growing and not starving like it does atm.
TvZ and TvT are really nice match ups to watch.

Only problem is Protoss with its death ball mechanics, game play wise.

Spectator wise you mean. Gameplay wise protoss is OKish, spectator wise it's mostly shit. Source: I am a Protoss player and Protoss fan.
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Green_25
Profile Joined June 2013
Great Britain696 Posts
January 19 2014 13:59 GMT
#690
On January 19 2014 22:58 Wildmoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2014 22:56 Green_25 wrote:
Holy shit best mech vs zerg game ever? Sick tank usage by Flash. Of course, he was really helped by the map, but still that was another level. That kind of mech is really fun to watch, just no mass raven and we are good.

Flash should just never play bio again in sc2, he sucks at it. Go back to your roots son.


Mvp

Good point, MVP is pretty good. But his mechanics aren't as good as Flash, unfortunately.
VmY
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands1286 Posts
January 19 2014 13:59 GMT
#691
On January 19 2014 22:57 Zheryn wrote:
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On January 19 2014 22:53 grapedog wrote:
anytime someone uses swarm hosts and loses, i laugh. it's like karma.


lol how can you say that when flash was playing mech? he was forced into swarm hosts by flash, and mech is still like 10 times more lame than swarm hosts.


u wot m8
Why can't I quit you, siege tank? FanTaSy, Mvp.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
January 19 2014 13:59 GMT
#692
Am i the only one annoyed by : "SC2 is struggling/dying every single LR thread ?". It's even more annoying that balance whine
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
January 19 2014 14:00 GMT
#693
On January 19 2014 22:57 ETisME wrote:
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On January 19 2014 22:55 Frex wrote:
On January 19 2014 22:52 ETisME wrote:
i have warned the community about the possibilty that skyterran will be reached too easily with combined upgrade during hots beta, sadly no one cared much :p


A lot of terrans complained about queen buff in WoL.

The buff resulted in a year era of BL / Infestor.

Tell me when you are seeing mech every game and I will actually take you seriously.

except there is no counter to skyterran for zerg while mvp figured out raven transition at the end of wol. (it's almost impossible to buy enough time but there is still a possible stage of that transiiton possible while not possible for zerg to beat that deathball)
I was mainly arguing for whether an undefeatable deathball should exist in sc2


Just wait for Symbol to play.
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Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
January 19 2014 14:00 GMT
#694
On January 19 2014 22:56 Green_25 wrote:
Holy shit best mech vs zerg game ever? Sick tank usage by Flash. Of course, he was really helped by the map, but still that was another level. That kind of mech is really fun to watch, just no mass raven and we are good.

Flash should just never play bio again in sc2, he sucks at it. Go back to your roots son.

So you think Flash should be the Fantasy of SC2?
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-19 14:00:30
January 19 2014 14:00 GMT
#695
On January 19 2014 22:57 Killmouse wrote:
no interview or did i miss?

I guess Barbie went home to celebrate after Prime actually won something.
Flash | Mvp
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
January 19 2014 14:00 GMT
#696
Woop KT TY and Flash !!!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
January 19 2014 14:00 GMT
#697
On January 19 2014 22:59 Green_25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2014 22:58 Wildmoon wrote:
On January 19 2014 22:56 Green_25 wrote:
Holy shit best mech vs zerg game ever? Sick tank usage by Flash. Of course, he was really helped by the map, but still that was another level. That kind of mech is really fun to watch, just no mass raven and we are good.

Flash should just never play bio again in sc2, he sucks at it. Go back to your roots son.


Mvp

Good point, MVP is pretty good. But his mechanics aren't as good as Flash, unfortunately.


I mean he has produce some mech games that are better than this.
Green_25
Profile Joined June 2013
Great Britain696 Posts
January 19 2014 14:01 GMT
#698
On January 19 2014 22:59 Ammanas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2014 22:58 Caladan wrote:
On January 19 2014 22:53 fmod wrote:
SC2 should have games like this more often. It's nice to see someone come back to good strategy and skill rather than some deathball vs deathball or build order losses. Too bad it rarely happens.


Yeah. If we had these games more often, SC2 would be growing and not starving like it does atm.
TvZ and TvT are really nice match ups to watch.

Only problem is Protoss with its death ball mechanics, game play wise.

Spectator wise you mean. Gameplay wise protoss is OKish, spectator wise it's mostly shit. Source: I am a Protoss player and Protoss fan.

I like cheesy all-in style Protoss as a spectator, its entertaining and keeps things fresh. Deathball Protoss sucks pretty hard as a spectator though, the battles are all about composition usually.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
January 19 2014 14:01 GMT
#699
On January 19 2014 22:56 FeyFey wrote:
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On January 19 2014 22:52 boxerfred wrote:
And this is why I hate David Kim. Instantly buffing mech instead of waiting for the meta game to develop just saw zerg's lategame air being basically useless vs. 3/3. This is not a balance whine, I'm pretty sure DRG made too many mistakes/Flash played really stellar, but a huge complain about David Kim.


upgrades are to important in Sc2. Its not about 3/3 its about the Zerg having 0/0 air. No reason to build something if its 2 upgrade levels behind.
The match started well, but the last bit was horrible to watch for me, bad decision after bad decision in my eyes.


Whatelse should DRG build against the Vikings? You know... Zerg doesn't have that much of a choice to fight an air army :-?

The game was great, one of the more entertaining mech games I've seen so far. But I REALLY hope, mech won't be the standard too soon, Swarmhosts are normally insanely boring to watch and to use, but beside Swarmhosts, Zerg has no answer to mech :-/
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12618 Posts
January 19 2014 14:02 GMT
#700
On January 19 2014 23:00 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2014 22:57 ETisME wrote:
On January 19 2014 22:55 Frex wrote:
On January 19 2014 22:52 ETisME wrote:
i have warned the community about the possibilty that skyterran will be reached too easily with combined upgrade during hots beta, sadly no one cared much :p


A lot of terrans complained about queen buff in WoL.

The buff resulted in a year era of BL / Infestor.

Tell me when you are seeing mech every game and I will actually take you seriously.

except there is no counter to skyterran for zerg while mvp figured out raven transition at the end of wol. (it's almost impossible to buy enough time but there is still a possible stage of that transiiton possible while not possible for zerg to beat that deathball)
I was mainly arguing for whether an undefeatable deathball should exist in sc2


Just wait for Symbol to play.

i would really really love a buff to overlord buff.
imagine terran barely hanging on while transitioning and zerg kept flooding roaches etc to break the defense and eventually loses.
more mid game harassment strategy from zerg would be really awesome
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
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