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Spain vs. Russia
Captains' interview:+ Show Spoiler +Vortix, who is currently playing for Mousesports, is the Spanish Captain whereas Stranger, who is the manager of Empire, was chosen by Russian players to represent the Russian National Team. Thank you for accepting this crossed interview together. NationWars is about to begin. What do you think about this tournament?Vortix: " I have always liked NationWars, it was very interesting to play NationWars back in wc3 days, it is good to see some organization trying to organize one in SC2."Stranger: "Personally, I like NationWars, especially since ENC 2010 Lan finals of WarCraft III. I have great memories and good emotions when I think about it. There are not so many good online StarCraft II events at the moment and NationWars is a nice idea."You are in the same group as Norway and Poland. Are you happy with the draw?Vortix: "I think the group A is a bit harder than B, but that's just my opinion. However, I don't see that as a bad thing, in order to win the tournament we must be ready to win any country, so starting with the tough ones is not a big deal."Stranger: "All the teams are good, draw doesn’t matter, but in general I like our group. It seems that group B is a harder one. If Russia wants to win this event, we must be ready to win any team. I don’t want to play vs Ukraine at Group stage and we’re happy to see Ukraine in the other group."What do you think about your first match? Does your team feel confident?Vortix: "We feel confident against anyone. We think if we play our best we can take the whole tournament. We are prepairing ourselves to do our very best and we are very motivated about it. Russia is a very strong country, some would say the strongest, but we think we can definetely beat them if we play our best."Stranger: "Spain is a strong team, even without Lucifron. Vortix is one of the best EU zerg. We feel confident about our game but the «all kill» match system can make match very unpredictable and interesting for fans."According to you, what will the most important game be?Vortix: "All 3 of their players are really good so it's hard to say. I would say the matches vs Happy are the most important, as he is probably the strongest and if we take him out early enough it will probably be quite determining."Stranger: "Obviously, any match vs Vortix !"What is the key to win this match? What is the detail which will make your team win?Vortix: "When talking about representing our country Spain is one of the hardest-working countries and we will hopefully show it."Stranger: "Our lineup is balanced, we have player of each race and I think we are very motivated for that league. For the victory, players must play their best game and cheer each other."Do you have any pronostic for this group?Vortix: "I'm gonna be optimistic and say Spain and Russia advance."Stranger: "I never made it for the events where my teams or players play. Teams of group A seem very close by skill and any submatch can decide the winner. I believe Russia will pass from our group and I also wish best of luck to Spain."
Do you want to add something?
Stranger: "I want to thank all admins of this league, it’s really good project and I hope all StarCraft II fans will like and enjoy it. I know in Russia a lot of people will watch it and support our national team and I want to thank them for it. We will show our best. Special thanks to Happy, who usually don’t play for national team, but this time he decided to help us to get victory! I wish good luck to all teams. It’s great to be part of nation event!"
Stranger's twitter
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Spain's squad : AlaStOr, Majestic and VortiX.
+ Show Spoiler + AlaStOrAlaStOr just joined the Russian team Vega after having travelled in the whole Europe. This Zerg player became known to have kept the first rank in the grandmaster league for several weeks and to have reached the third place in the WCS Spain 2012. He stated that Norway is the weakest country in this NationWars. MajesticMajestic is a rising Protoss player and is now playing for the Spanish team Giant. At the age of 16, he has skyrocketed in ladder for the last months to become one of the Spanish hopes thanks to a very aggressive style. VortiXVortix steadily improved on StarCraft II before his reputation rose dramatically as he reached the semi-finals at IEM Season VII - Cologne. Then, he took the second place in WCS Europe 2012 and became one of the most dreaded Zerg in the world. He was recently a threat for any player as a semi-finalist of WCS Europe Season 3 and he could be the silver bullet of the Spanish roster in NationWars.
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Russia's squad: Happy, TitaN and sLivko
+ Show Spoiler + HappyHappy is a true winning machine. He is often in the very first player on ladder and reached the last grid in WCS Europe 2013 thanks to incredible runs. His micro from Warcraft III is really sick and Russia has a wonderful asset with Happy to win NationWars sLivkosLivko favors a macro-heavy style that typically involves lots of droning and is also able to surprise his opponents with very powerful and cheesy build orders. Member of the Premier League WCS Europe, he did not manage big runs in 2013. After his semi-finals at the IEM Singapore in 2012, he was considered as one of the top European player and he now aims at a new target with the NationWars. TitanThe Russian has been one of the most consistent players since the release of StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm. He has a very good micro and is able to trade his units better than most European players to reach the victory. He shows in WCS 2013 that he is one of the best European players. He really could be the silver bullet of Russian squad.
Norway vs. Poland
Captains' interview:+ Show Spoiler +Snute, who is currently playing for Team Liquid, is the Norwegian Captain whereas Nerchio, who is currently playing for Team Acer, is the Polish Captain. Thank you for accepting this crossed interview together. NationWars is about to begin. What do you think about this tournament?Snute: "Last time I participated in a nation war was in March 2012. So it's cool to finally have it back. Many nationwar matches back in WoL weren't even casted so it's great that there is hype being created around it now."
Nerchio: "I think there are too few nation war tournaments, I think we had only 2 in 3 years of Starcraft2 and they weren't really hyped at all. So I am excited to be playing in this one."You are in the same group as Spain and Russia. Are you happy with the draw?Snute: "I think it's a great draw, although VortiX is a threat. I expect Spain to win. The pools of 4 aren't too different in average skill so being in this pool is not bad for Norway."Nerchio: "I think we are a little bit lucky because we dodged Sweden and Germany, both of which could be quite a problem for us. There is nobody we couldn't beat and I believe we should be favoured in most of the clan wars as well."What do you think about the match Norway-Poland? Who is the favourite nation according to you? Will it be close?Snute: "I think Norway is slightly favored. Our players are slightly stronger on average. Poland has a lot of players that are amazing versus Terran so it's unfortunate for them that they weren't matched up with France instead."Nerchio: "It probably depends on the draw and the daily shape of the players. On the one hand, it could end heavily onesided because our line-up is not very strong against zerg players. On the other hand, it's only a series of Best-of-1 so everything could happen."According to you, what will the most important match be?Snute: "The most important match would be a Snute or TargA vs Nerchio match if it is to happen."Nerchio: "I think the most important match-up is Mana vs Zerg not particularly any player. I am good at ZvZ but opponents are strong so it's a little bit more random and Diestar might have trouble fighting vs Targa and Snute as they can easily compete with koreans in ZvT."What is the key to win this match? What is the detail which will make your team win?Snute: "Playing well. I don't want to go into details on strategies so I'll leave it there "Nerchio:"We will tell Mana to all-in every game and it should be a clear win for us, I will use my standard 1 base strats and we will ask organizers to play pre-hellbat nerf patch so Diestar has a chance too."Which nations should advance to the semi-finals?Snute: "Norway and Spain from the top bracket. Ukraine and Germany from the other."Nerchio: "One spot is already taken by Poland, i think the others will go to Sweden, Ukraine, Russia."
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Norway's squad: Eiki, Snute and TargA
+ Show Spoiler + EikiAfter having won NM SpillExpo 2013, Eiki can boast he is the National champion in Norway. This protoss is the best player of the rising team Karnage eSports and is able to show very interesting things. Always good at online competitions and in ladder, Eiki could surprise a lot in this NationWars. SnuteSnute is one the most amazing and respectable player in Europe. Second at HomeStory Cup VII, winner at HomeStory Cup VI, he shined in many other major tournaments, is the last foreigners to have won a major tournament and seems able to beat any player in the world thanks to his very lovely style. His experience in Proleague and in WCS NA could give to Norway a very good weapon to fight in NationWars. TargaThe Norwegian had a remarkable run to the semi-finals at 2012 DreamHack Open: Valencia and is one of the rare Zergs able to scare all the European players thanks to the very good shape he showed in late 2013.
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Poland's squad : Diestar, MaNa and Nerchio.
+ Show Spoiler + DiestarDiestar is a Terran player currently playing for Millenium. From the beginning of Starcraft II, Diestar has always been one of the major Polish player, winning the ESL Pro Series Poland and participating to many international events. MaNaThe Polish is one of the most appreciated players, by both players and the community. In addition to being nice, the Protoss is a fierce player who already has an impressive list of achievements : winning Electronic Sports World Cup 2012 and 2012 DreamHack Open: Summer, getting the silver at Electronic Sports World Cup 2011, etc. NerchioIn 2012, Nerchio won many international tournaments such as HomeStory Cup V and DreamHack Open: Bucharest 2012 and has become a famous player able to eliminate any player. The Acer player is considered as one of the best European players and his experience could be very useful for his country.
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Group A features eight Premier League players such as VortiX, Happy, Nerchio and Snute . Besides, the main player of each nation - except Russia - is from the Swarm.
Only AlaStOr, Majestic and Eiki have no participations in WCS.
Spain is probably the favoured country in this group. VortiX was the best in WCS past year, participated to the global finals and that's why he will have to score points for his unexperienced nation. His legendary ZvT will definitely help Spain against Happy's Russia and then his strong ZvZ could be the key to defeat Nerchio, Snute or TargA and enable Spain to reach the semi-finals. Majestic is a very unknown and young player but he is also one of the hot prospect in Europe. His ability to surprise his opponent will be likely to help Spain to get his qualification.
Except the Happy's extraordinary regularity, Russia does not seem in shape. TitaN failed the WCS Qualifiers in Europe and sLivko did not recently prove big things. Moreover, Snute, TargA, VortiX and the whole Polish squad have shown a very competitive level in the match-up versus Terran. Given Happy is the best Russian player, this nation could be in trouble during this NationWars and will have to hope feats from TitaN and sLivko to reach the semi-finals.
Norway is one of the most underrated nation because all the Norwegian players seem at the peak of their career. The fate of Norway is on the shoulders of the Zergs Snute and TargA. The latter, who just left Dignitas, has shown very interesting things in late 2013 and is still in shape for he recently defeated Happy in eSportsventure cup. Then, Snute is still the last foreigner to have won a premier tournament at the Homestory Cup VI and showed a very lovely gameplay in the 2013 NA WCS. Moreover, the young protoss Eiki is able to snipe any player with his strong all-ins. The weakness of Norway could be the numerous Zerg in this group whereas their two best players do not have a very strong ZvZ.
Finally there is Poland. Poland has a very solid and experienced squad, composed of a Zerg, a Terran and a Protoss. So they are able to put the worst match-up against each team and can have diverse strategies depending on their opponent. The main interrogation is about MaNa's shape. Teamless from his departure from Mousesports squad, the Protoss, who was one of the best recently in 2012, showed a bad level during the WCS qualifiers but then all his fans took pleasure when they attended to his recent good performances in eSportsventure Cup: he defeated Ret and Dayshi. The third Polish player Diestar just got his first qualification for WCS and may use it as a springboard to reach more and more victories during NationWars.
Predictions: Spain > Russia Norway < Poland Spain < Poland
Russia < Norway Spain > Norway
Poland and Spain to advance.
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Poll: Spain vs. Russia?Spain (40) 19% Russia (172) 81% 212 total votes Your vote: Spain vs. Russia? (Vote): Spain (Vote): Russia
Poll: Norway vs. Poland?Norway (88) 38% Poland (142) 62% 230 total votes Your vote: Norway vs. Poland? (Vote): Norway (Vote): Poland
Poll: Which country will join the semi-finals?Russia & Poland (115) 49% Russia & Norway (50) 21% Poland & Norway (21) 9% Spain & Russia (20) 9% Spain & Poland (16) 7% Spain & Norway (11) 5% 233 total votes Your vote: Which country will join the semi-finals? (Vote): Spain & Russia (Vote): Spain & Poland (Vote): Spain & Norway (Vote): Russia & Norway (Vote): Russia & Poland (Vote): Poland & Norway
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Russia and Norway advance.
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Nice stuff, looking forward to day 1
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You made a mistake on Norway's graphic. There's an EPS Poland Championship on Snute's achievement list, and 3rd place in WCS Poland (DieStar's achievements).
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I like how in the graphics, Alastor, Majestic, Targa and Eiki all have misinformation under "team"
Alastor is on Vega, Targa is teamless, Majestic is on Giant (according to the spoiler below the graphic) and Eiki is on Karnage.
Looking forward to this though. I think Norway is being underrated and could definitely upset poland. Spain's kinda dead in the water though.
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I completely agree with your analysis. I hope to see Spain and Snute win.
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Russia is by far the favourite in this group in my opinion and then probably poland for second.
Im looking forward to the matches!
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Vortix has a ZvT capable of winning any terran on earth. I think he is much better than Happy's TvZ
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gogogo Happy & Diestar =) I like Spain as well but Lucifron's lack is kinda heartbreaking :p
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Poland´s got this. Nerchio and Mana too stronk.
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will be good indeed!
what will the format be like? All-kill, yes, but Bo3 or Bo5? Or even 2v2?^^
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What's the correct starting time? 16:00 CET like it is shown in the calendar or 17:00 CET?
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Wow, the other group is so stacked. This one is pretty good too. Spain would have been stronger with both the brothers. Ah, it seems the predictions severely underestimate Russia. We'll see. I actually think if Poland vs Russia happens, it's gonna be close.
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MOTHERLAND !
and Moterland bastard son aka Poland.
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On January 17 2014 22:51 Niko_Thien wrote: What's the correct starting time? 16:00 CET like it is shown in the calendar or 17:00 CET? SHow start at 17.00 CET.
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On January 17 2014 22:51 Niko_Thien wrote: What's the correct starting time? 16:00 CET like it is shown in the calendar or 17:00 CET?
OP says 17:00 CET, German caster NarutO says 17:00 CET, O'GamingTV calendar says 16:30 CET (probably some preshow?) TL calendar says 16:00 CET
So I'd go with 17:00 CET.
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Sorry, I failed the timezone when I submited the event. Everything is fine now.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Oh dear Polls vs Pools ? xD
Looks good though ^_^
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i was so proud for a second that my food is ready exactly at 16:00...
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GOOOO russia but i think poland should win the whole thing mb even ukraine, all other countries have at least one weak player
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Russia and Poland. Might come down to a ZvZ between Spain and Poland
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Start times are not in agreement. TL events has minutes (40 min) from now, whereas ogaming site has 7 hours from now.
So what it be?
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On January 17 2014 12:32 Jayp wrote: Nice stuff, looking forward to day 1 you mean day9 - hehe--he
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It starts at 17 : 00 GMT+1 so in 33 minutes from now on.
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poland vs norway might actually be much closer than people think.
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I agree with the predictions
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so winning country plays against korea? lol
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wtf is this?! has this been known for long?
looks awesome!
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On January 18 2014 00:43 seoul_kiM wrote: so winning country plays against korea? lol damn i miss korea vs world events... I can remember fucking stephano almost all killing team corea, squirtle (if i remember correctly) had to ruin it all.
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Bisutopia19299 Posts
Since I'm part Norwegian my decision to cheer for them is pretty easy. Plus Captain Snute will destroy all.
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such spain bias. vortix basically has to allkill russia, thats very hard to do. alastor might have a shot against titan and slivko.
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Let's go Poland!
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Can't wait... Oh, wait, it's ON !
Edit : why Ogaming tv does not show on the stream list ?
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day9 idra and tb sounds like the most entertaining triple cast ever, let's goooooooo
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Im so sorry that Norway will start this tournament with a loss.
And im TOTALLY not biased,
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lol........ there were some nation war cups but no one gave a f about them..
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Nani isn't in the nation war anymore? Jeez.
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On January 18 2014 01:13 Heartland wrote: Nani isn't in the nation war anymore? Jeez. drama baby e:oh bly is already 24 woah. that went fast
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ok guys i'm really stupid, how does this work? do they play 3 matches? how do they chose who plays against who
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What a handsome mustache you have got there, Downfall
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On January 18 2014 01:16 AlternativeEgo wrote: What a handsome mustache you have got there, Downfall Ya, I like it.
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Hmm..I think that I might like listening to IdrA. He's saying smart and insightful stuff. That's quite uncommon.
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On January 18 2014 01:24 AlternativeEgo wrote: Hmm..I think that I might like listening to IdrA. He's saying smart and insightful stuff. That's quite uncommon.
Not for Idra.
I can't believe I just said that.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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On January 18 2014 01:27 Lorning wrote: Gooo Russia belgium rooting for russia what has this world come to
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On January 18 2014 00:54 KalWarkov wrote: such spain bias. vortix basically has to allkill russia, thats very hard to do. alastor might have a shot against titan and slivko.
majestic's pretty good to be fair, but vortix is their best by some distance
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On January 18 2014 01:25 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 01:24 AlternativeEgo wrote: Hmm..I think that I might like listening to IdrA. He's saying smart and insightful stuff. That's quite uncommon. Not for Idra. I can't believe I just said that.
Yeah I meant for the standard caster who just calls the game mostly as we see it. IdrA is taking us behind the curtains. Or me at least as I don't know much at all.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On January 18 2014 01:28 Undead1993 wrote:belgium rooting for russia what has this world come to + Show Spoiler +Because they're going to win
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TB is showing a different bracket than the one shown on liquipedia
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Hehe. Happy will mech the shit out of his TvZ
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I think Snute and Targa is currently a harder hitter than Mana and Nerchio, imho.
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TargA is playing with like 300 ping though.
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On January 18 2014 01:36 NovaMB wrote: TargA is playing with like 300 ping though.
Why is that? Is he back in Aussie land?
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On January 18 2014 01:35 IncubusSC wrote: I think Snute and Targa is currently a harder hitter than Mana and Nerchio, imho.
All of them, particularly everyone save Targa, are shadows of their former selves though.
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On January 18 2014 01:35 IncubusSC wrote: I think Snute and Targa is currently a harder hitter than Mana and Nerchio, imho. dont know about snute, he is good for a facepalm here and there. i think nerchio has an edge when it comes head to head
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On January 18 2014 01:37 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 01:36 AlternativeEgo wrote:On January 18 2014 01:36 NovaMB wrote: TargA is playing with like 300 ping though. Why is that? Is he back in Aussie land? Similar, his ISP is garbage http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3238605152And Nexus first into Gateway wut TitaN is the sOs of Europe
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On January 18 2014 01:35 IncubusSC wrote: I think Snute and Targa is currently a harder hitter than Mana and Nerchio, imho. It is arguable. MaNa unfortunately is inconsistent at the moment, but IMHO Nerchio should be rated above both Norwegians (although the difference is not that big). Also Diestar eliminated First from the EU qualifiers, he should be considered more dangerous than Eiki.
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On January 18 2014 01:38 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 01:37 NovaMB wrote:On January 18 2014 01:36 AlternativeEgo wrote:On January 18 2014 01:36 NovaMB wrote: TargA is playing with like 300 ping though. Why is that? Is he back in Aussie land? Similar, his ISP is garbage http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3238605152And Nexus first into Gateway wut TitaN is the sOs of Europe cant be, he just won a game, sOs cant win these days
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On January 18 2014 01:40 Topin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 01:38 Lorning wrote:On January 18 2014 01:37 NovaMB wrote:On January 18 2014 01:36 AlternativeEgo wrote:On January 18 2014 01:36 NovaMB wrote: TargA is playing with like 300 ping though. Why is that? Is he back in Aussie land? Similar, his ISP is garbage http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3238605152And Nexus first into Gateway wut TitaN is the sOs of Europe cant be, he just won a game, sOs cant win these days Well, he won, when it mattered (Code A).
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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go now attack him kill him gooooo
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Idra: "What the hell was that? ..." :D
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On January 18 2014 01:41 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 01:40 Topin wrote:On January 18 2014 01:38 Lorning wrote:On January 18 2014 01:37 NovaMB wrote:On January 18 2014 01:36 AlternativeEgo wrote:On January 18 2014 01:36 NovaMB wrote: TargA is playing with like 300 ping though. Why is that? Is he back in Aussie land? Similar, his ISP is garbage http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3238605152And Nexus first into Gateway wut TitaN is the sOs of Europe cant be, he just won a game, sOs cant win these days Well, he won, when it mattered (Code A).
sOs is the worst. He only wins so we can't bag on him more.
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Mother Russia is spanking Spain hard.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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Wow, Spain got destroyed.
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Can someone write the results pls? I just tunned in.
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On January 18 2014 02:03 JanDe wrote: Can someone write the results pls? I just tunned in.
Titan all killed.
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Russian Federation400 Posts
Титан красавец! Россия вперед!! )
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On January 18 2014 02:03 JanDe wrote: Can someone write the results pls? I just tunned in.
The puzzle icon next to the event and streams will take you to it. You can click the "!" in the bracket for details.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/NationWars
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Is the entire groupstage played today?
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LE FRANCO ENGLISH INTERVIEW.
Pomf GM english skills.
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France7248 Posts
On January 18 2014 02:08 Dinotramp wrote: Is the entire groupstage played today? no, Group A today, B tomorrow and playoffs on Sunday
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On January 18 2014 01:37 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 01:35 IncubusSC wrote: I think Snute and Targa is currently a harder hitter than Mana and Nerchio, imho. dont know about snute, he is good for a facepalm here and there. i think nerchio has an edge when it comes head to head #LiquidZerg
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This nationwar concept is cool, ofc rooting for Norway, but we haven't got the deepest of linups
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On January 18 2014 02:18 Holloworb wrote:This nationwar concept is cool, ofc rooting for Norway, but we haven't got the deepest of linups 
yeah i just hope they change the format around a bit if they decide to run it again, I'd much rather see a proleague format with a Bo7, to get more out of the depth of your national talents. As it is right now, the team with the best singular player will probably win.
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On January 18 2014 02:04 RandomPlayer wrote:Титан красавец! Россия вперед!!  )
am i in dota ?
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On January 18 2014 02:30 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 02:04 RandomPlayer wrote:Титан красавец! Россия вперед!!  ) am i in dota ? Looks like CSGO to me
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The Gathering is dead? That sucks.
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I want/need Nerchio to post in this LR thread
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On January 18 2014 02:45 Heartland wrote: I want/need Nerchio to post in this LR thread Wait until ZvP
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On January 18 2014 02:20 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 02:18 Holloworb wrote:This nationwar concept is cool, ofc rooting for Norway, but we haven't got the deepest of linups  yeah i just hope they change the format around a bit if they decide to run it again, I'd much rather see a proleague format with a Bo7, to get more out of the depth of your national talents. As it is right now, the team with the best singular player will probably win.
Eventhough it would screw us over, i have to agree that it would be awesome. But i doubt it would be Bo7, i dont think many countries would be able to field 7 players. Bo5 would probably be more realistic.
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On January 18 2014 02:49 Holloworb wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 02:20 nkr wrote:On January 18 2014 02:18 Holloworb wrote:This nationwar concept is cool, ofc rooting for Norway, but we haven't got the deepest of linups  yeah i just hope they change the format around a bit if they decide to run it again, I'd much rather see a proleague format with a Bo7, to get more out of the depth of your national talents. As it is right now, the team with the best singular player will probably win. Eventhough it would screw us over, i have to agree that it would be awesome. But i doubt it would be Bo7, i dont think many countries would be able to field 7 players. Bo5 would probably be more realistic.
Bo7 is four players.
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On January 18 2014 02:45 Heartland wrote: I want/need Nerchio to post in this LR thread Hi
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On January 18 2014 02:58 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 02:45 Heartland wrote: I want/need Nerchio to post in this LR thread Hi Sign my boobies pls
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On January 18 2014 02:58 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 02:45 Heartland wrote: I want/need Nerchio to post in this LR thread Hi
I'm sorry :/
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TargA#1!
On January 18 2014 02:41 AlternativeEgo wrote:The Gathering is dead? That sucks. No, they just don't have eSport.
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I wish they could add Germany and Sweden!!! Oh well....
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On January 18 2014 03:11 tritonice wrote: I wish they could add Germany and Sweden!!! Oh well.... Germany and Sweden are in the other group
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this game looks more like europe
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On January 18 2014 02:54 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 02:49 Holloworb wrote:On January 18 2014 02:20 nkr wrote:On January 18 2014 02:18 Holloworb wrote:This nationwar concept is cool, ofc rooting for Norway, but we haven't got the deepest of linups  yeah i just hope they change the format around a bit if they decide to run it again, I'd much rather see a proleague format with a Bo7, to get more out of the depth of your national talents. As it is right now, the team with the best singular player will probably win. Eventhough it would screw us over, i have to agree that it would be awesome. But i doubt it would be Bo7, i dont think many countries would be able to field 7 players. Bo5 would probably be more realistic. Bo7 is four players.
Thanks for pointing out that im an idiot 
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@TargA01 59s
unplayable. cant do anything else than all in
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On January 18 2014 03:21 Heartland wrote: @TargA01 59s
unplayable. cant do anything else than all in Good enough to take down Nerchio.
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Anybody know where this version of FF6 Terra theme is from?
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Ooooh flags on the map, nice !
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
HAHAHA
Fuck Prime, amirite
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
Time to see that guy, does any Norwegian know how this protoss is?
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On January 18 2014 03:34 Lorning wrote: HAHAHA
Fuck Prime, amirite LOL
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On January 18 2014 03:35 Fusilero wrote: Time to see that guy, does any Norwegian know how this protoss is?
They say he's the best. Like a Naniwa in lusekofta and fish oil breath.
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did you hear what just happened? Idra didn't take tb's bait to whine about toss, yeaaaah!
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On January 18 2014 03:38 Undead1993 wrote: did you hear what just happened? Idra didn't take tb's bait to whine about toss, yeaaaah!
It's a christmas miracle!
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On January 18 2014 03:38 Noonius wrote: 4 units to old 'em all that was disgusting
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That was ugly from DieStar
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I don't know a thing about the EU scene, but this is interesting.
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On January 18 2014 03:40 Topin wrote:that was disgusting
Well when you launch a medivac less bio attack against a colossus first player on a map with a ledge extending that far into the natural, that's probably going to happen. I don't want to hear about overcharge from that fight.
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It feels wrong to root for a Norwegian, especially against Mana, but I like the underdog/breakout story
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On January 18 2014 03:54 Heartland wrote: It feels wrong to root for a Norwegian, especially against Mana, but I like the underdog/breakout story
Traitor
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On January 18 2014 03:55 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 03:54 Heartland wrote: It feels wrong to root for a Norwegian, especially against Mana, but I like the underdog/breakout story Traitor
You could call me a quisling, even
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Mana is ahead in probes though. Hm. Is Eiki gonna all-in?
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On January 18 2014 03:55 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 03:55 stuchiu wrote:On January 18 2014 03:54 Heartland wrote: It feels wrong to root for a Norwegian, especially against Mana, but I like the underdog/breakout story Traitor You could call me a quisling, even
Aren't you from Skåne?
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On January 18 2014 03:58 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 03:55 Heartland wrote:On January 18 2014 03:55 stuchiu wrote:On January 18 2014 03:54 Heartland wrote: It feels wrong to root for a Norwegian, especially against Mana, but I like the underdog/breakout story Traitor You could call me a quisling, even Aren't you from Skåne?
Yeah.
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Eiki almost sounds like Ikea... You can thank me later
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On January 18 2014 03:59 AlternativeEgo wrote: So Danish, basically
I wish.
Skåne vs Sweden nation war plz
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
Well I guess this Norway protoss is someone I should start paying attention to in the future
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Poland confirmed worse than norway
#truth
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On January 18 2014 00:04 AlternativeEgo wrote: Russia and Norway yo
Easy pickings self quote yo
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Eiki seems like a cool guy!
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On January 18 2014 04:06 Zheryn wrote: Eiki seems like a cool guy!
Yeah, he seems nice : )
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On January 18 2014 04:07 Heartland wrote:Yeah, he seems nice : ) if you are protoss
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On January 18 2014 03:59 Noonius wrote: Eiki almost sounds like Ikea... You can thank me later
Thanks. Эстония represent! It's basically like being part of Nation Wars.
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GOGO NORWAY! Vikingpower!!!! :D <3
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On January 18 2014 04:29 Korean-MILF wrote: GOGO NORWAY! Vikingpower!!!! :D <3 Valhall awaits!
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On January 18 2014 04:26 emis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 03:59 Noonius wrote: Eiki almost sounds like Ikea... You can thank me later
Thanks. Эстония represent! It's basically like being part of Nation Wars. WHERE IS MYCERION ?
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On January 18 2014 04:35 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 04:26 emis wrote:On January 18 2014 03:59 Noonius wrote: Eiki almost sounds like Ikea... You can thank me later
Thanks. Эстония represent! It's basically like being part of Nation Wars. WHERE IS MYCERION ?
![[image loading]](http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120706173411/southparkla/es/images/c/c9/Mysterion.jpg) im waiting for his comeback
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Can someone explain to me why Germany, France, Ukraine and Sweden starts straight in the semis?
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On January 18 2014 04:46 Tzuborg wrote: Can someone explain to me why Germany, France, Ukraine and Sweden starts straight with the semis? What ? They're in group B played tomorrow.
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On January 18 2014 04:46 Tzuborg wrote: Can someone explain to me why Germany, France, Ukraine and Sweden starts straight with the semis? They don't its two brackets
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On January 18 2014 04:47 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 04:46 Tzuborg wrote: Can someone explain to me why Germany, France, Ukraine and Sweden starts straight with the semis? What ? They're in group B played tomorrow.
GG. I somehow saw that thing on liquipedia as one bracket..
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I don't know if this is the proper place to comment on this but Mr biscuit could you please put up webcams of you and idra and who every you interview. Looking at a black screen is boring and I completely miss out on things when I need to have the stream muted during the music breaks
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Wait, is Targas clan meant to be "ass to mouth"?
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On January 18 2014 04:57 AlternativeEgo wrote: Wait, is Targas clan meant to be "ass to mouth"?
Looks like it.
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On January 18 2014 04:35 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 04:26 emis wrote:On January 18 2014 03:59 Noonius wrote: Eiki almost sounds like Ikea... You can thank me later
Thanks. Эстония represent! It's basically like being part of Nation Wars. WHERE IS MYCERION ?
Man, that guy is a PR virgin. Just as he started getting some praise for his breakthrough, the dude changed his ingame nick to "JonSnowDies" and didn't respond to any of the fan posts. It's the well known introversion of tall northern men.
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On January 18 2014 04:52 integrity wrote: I don't know if this is the proper place to comment on this but Mr biscuit could you please put up webcams of you and idra and who every you interview. Looking at a black screen is boring and I completely miss out on things when I need to have the stream muted during the music breaks
No thanks, I look like shit.
We don't have music breaks for the most part and a 15 minute countdown timer between series, you can't really miss out on things.
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You should fire the guy that looks to the future to make the predictions that you wrote in the OP, russia to lose to spain? not in a million years, Titan, Happy and Slivko are legendaries! This tournament is amazing!
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C'mon Happy, it's payback time.
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I hope Targa is better at tvz than Snute, atleast vs mech.
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On January 18 2014 05:10 Holloworb wrote: I hope Targa is better at tvz than Snute, atleast vs mech.
He beat Happy 2-1 the other day so he's ok.
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Please tell me [ASS2M] stands for Ass to mouth lol
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I loose to the same terran push on the ladder haha. Cool to see GM players struggle against this too ^^"
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Best foreign terran, that's it.
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You can't make queens without pool TB.
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On January 18 2014 05:18 Nerchio wrote: You can't make queens without pool TB.
derp moment
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On January 18 2014 05:17 Insoleet wrote: I loose to the same terran push on the ladder haha. Cool to see GM players struggle against this too ^^"
Same. i find it really hard to know how to split units perfectly to be ready for both drops and defend third base.
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mmmbopped!
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On January 18 2014 05:16 Mohdoo wrote: Please tell me [ASS2M] stands for Ass to mouth lol
It probably does, lool
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Is this the day1 only thread ??
Cause certainly in the OP there's the lack of Sweden, France, Ukraine, and Germany squad information
Kinda expecting for Sweden to win the whole thing, but still not sure of the squads though.. I guess that there's actually a point..
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Really digging this song TB.
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On January 18 2014 05:28 VArsovskiSC wrote:Is this the day1 only thread ?? Cause certainly in the OP there's the lack of Sweden, France, Ukraine, and Germany squad information Kinda expecting for Sweden to win the whole thing, but still not sure of the squads though.. I guess that there's actually a point..  Yes, hence the "NationWars : Group A" title
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I sadly think Happy will all kill this
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Happy outmultitastking his opponents to death
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Happy really looks to be at a level above his opponents.
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Damn, Happy is really picking mediocre European Zergs apart with this style.
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Snute with a peak at 640 APM Oo
Happy rolling all the game at 300-400 APM
EU starting to have pretty good players
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Happy is outstanding. Norway needs a miracle comeback now!
Love the tournament btw!
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Yes. Thanks for the great tournament!
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pretty bad storm, pretty good units!
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Wow Eiki's blink control is super good.
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Didn't see Eiki becoming Norways ace, but im not complaining
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On January 18 2014 06:06 teddyoojo wrote: pretty bad storm, pretty good units! 2/3 > 1/1.
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Eiki the unexpected(?) hero. Gogo Norway!
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dat eiki is pretty good, taking out probably the best player in the tournament
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Forge, Colossustech, Twilight with exacly 4 Units and beeing unbreakable against a expand build. Funny things happen TvP....
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Well, didn't see that coming! Well done Eiki!
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On January 18 2014 06:07 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 06:06 teddyoojo wrote: pretty bad storm, pretty good units! 2/3 > 1/1. ah i didnt really wanna comment on the game i wanted to say what idra was thinking after saying "pretty bad storms" :D
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On January 18 2014 06:08 Micro_Jackson wrote: Forge, Colossustech, Twilight with exacly 4 Units and beeing unbreakable against a expand build. Funny things happen TvP.... Nope it was only 1 forge and robo bay. Twilight was later.
On January 18 2014 06:06 teddyoojo wrote: pretty bad storm, pretty good units!
Like the other guy said, upgrade and focusing the vikings made the difference.
I don't understand how you cannot see how well Eiki did considering he had to deal with so many difficult timings with SCVs pulls and had an observer on Happy all the time to be ready for that. He did well, don't take that away from him.
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I don't like games that go swarm host + queen + static defence. I don't find it entertaining. And that turtling style is so un-zergy
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This reminds me Nestea vs Parting durin Iron Squid.
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Russian Federation1016 Posts
And The Motherland advances!!! Those predictions turned out wrong and I'm happpy! And Happy is happy!
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sLivko is not to be underestimated. Great match between Russia and Norway!
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i guess germany vs russia in the grand finals
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The forest of spines! omg
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On January 18 2014 06:30 IAmWithStupid wrote: And The Motherland advances!!! Those predictions turned out wrong and I'm happpy! And Happy is happy!
"...not remotely happy is Happy" TB
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Too long breaks though. Tighter production would be nice.
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I've seen Happy happy before, I guess he's pretty tired or something, playing Take's cup yesterday until 3AM and now it's past 1:30AM again already, he can be quite talkative if he's relaxed and comfortable.
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This tourney is so much fun I'm looking forward to germany's performance tomorrow, one Heromarine to rule them all
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Interviews on the french stream :
AlaStOr : I will win even if my ZvT is my worst MU.
Nerchio : We sent DieStar because he'll win 3-0.
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Mana sounds like TLO, am i the only one?
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On January 18 2014 06:54 Topin wrote: Mana sounds like TLO, am i the only one? They have different accents.. but yeah, their voice sounds a bit similar.
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"Well. If you'd look at that."
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i like watching diestar playing because we both make the same mistakes.
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On January 18 2014 07:13 Heartland wrote: "Well. If you'd look at that." I laughed so hard at that
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SC2 is weird because nobody gets stoked for the rare person to make a comeback, we get super depressed for the guy who was the victim of the comeback haha
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Well done Alastor, defending successfully and obviously killing off a lot of SCVs without anyone noticing!
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lol these predictions :D
Go Russia!
Also, go Nerchio!
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On January 18 2014 07:15 eLyx wrote:I laughed so hard at that
Idra is like the perfect hollywood movie villain with his comments.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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On January 18 2014 07:29 Lorning wrote: Alastor, impressive.
He might be the best pitcher after Solar!
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On January 18 2014 07:29 Lorning wrote: Alastor, impressive.
I see 
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On January 18 2014 07:34 Undead1993 wrote: "XD" nerchio Sums it up pretty well imho :D
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On January 18 2014 07:34 aleksano wrote: Alastor is so bad, lol. i think it's more killing diestar and putting up a good fight against nerchio bad.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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On January 18 2014 07:34 Niko_Thien wrote:Sums it up pretty well imho :D Well, he did show that he can take advantage of a big throw, and that he is fully capable to throw in even bigger fashion himself.
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On January 18 2014 07:16 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote: SC2 is weird because nobody gets stoked for the rare person to make a comeback, we get super depressed for the guy who was the victim of the comeback haha heh sc2 scene is definitely a personality cult
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So now it's Majestic vs. Nerchio + MaNa.
ezpz
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The random unknown protoss for the win like in proleague !!
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this tournament should be named: Underdogs: EU
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On January 18 2014 08:05 miniskirt wrote: this tournament should be named: Underdogs: EU Protoss : EU
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On January 18 2014 08:05 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 08:05 miniskirt wrote: this tournament should be named: Underdogs: EU Protoss : EU XD
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On January 18 2014 08:05 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 08:05 miniskirt wrote: this tournament should be named: Underdogs: EU Protoss : EU We have Downfall.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On January 18 2014 08:05 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 08:05 miniskirt wrote: this tournament should be named: Underdogs: EU Protoss : EU hehe
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Friggin love this idea, thanks TB, Take and friends for putting it together!
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On January 18 2014 08:14 Jampackedeon wrote: Friggin love this idea, thanks TB, Take and friends for putting it together!
Had nothing to do with me we're just casting. This is Ogamings thing, Pomf et Thud did all the work.
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E : Sniped.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
Seems like we have a lot of throws tonight
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diestar's entertainment level is over nine thousand
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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that was an incredibly mannered "wp"
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Throw, throw, throw the game, gently to the Poles Suddenly, all of the mutalisk went and reversed are the roles
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On January 18 2014 09:04 Zackeva wrote: Throw, throw, throw the game, gently to the Poles Suddenly, all of the mutalisk went and reversed are the roles hahaah :D
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
I hope Eiki wins, so we can see Nerchio throw against Protoss again.
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Gotta look more out for Eiki
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Lorning
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naughty mana! (followers of the french stream will understand)
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WHAT IS THIS GAME? lol. norway advances i guess
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Wtf are these guys doing. MaNa just herp derping away his army once again.
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MaNa seeing the nightmare all over again.
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mana is the bad luck brian of sc2
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Mana is really bad vs. swarmhosts. He is like a magnet that attracts these kinds of games.
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These guys must be really tired or something, both are just playing so horrible.
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as a zerg player i'm getting as tired of watching this style as anyone, but does anyone really believe zerg can play lategame zvp any other way? what else can zerg do if you don't kill them with a roach hydra viper timing or a muta switch?
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well this is very disappointing ending
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FIRECAKE'D
THE MANA CURSE
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On January 18 2014 10:25 Waise wrote: as a zerg player i'm getting as tired of watching this style as anyone, but does anyone really believe zerg can play lategame zvp any other way? what else can zerg do if you don't kill them with a roach hydra viper timing or a muta switch?
Yeah you either kill them with roach hydra viper timings/queen+ultra timing/do a big muta switch to catch him off guard, or you do this. This is basically the only real late game zerg has.
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On January 18 2014 10:25 Waise wrote: as a zerg player i'm getting as tired of watching this style as anyone, but does anyone really believe zerg can play lategame zvp any other way? what else can zerg do if you don't kill them with a roach hydra viper timing or a muta switch? The sLivko way
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We're through so im happpy.
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Rooting for Norway, love Snute, but Zerg really need better options than this.
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On January 18 2014 10:28 Zheryn wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 10:25 Waise wrote: as a zerg player i'm getting as tired of watching this style as anyone, but does anyone really believe zerg can play lategame zvp any other way? what else can zerg do if you don't kill them with a roach hydra viper timing or a muta switch? Yeah you either kill them with roach hydra viper timings/queen+ultra timing/do a big muta switch to catch him off guard, or you do this. This is basically the only real late game zerg has.
Which is really stupid, but unfortunately that's really how it is. And it's probably gonna stay that way for a while :-/
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Free units vs deathball... good job DK.
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What did Mana say at the end?
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"gg wp gl in the tournament"
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On January 18 2014 10:31 AxiR wrote: What did Mana say at the end?
"Congratulations, good luck for the tournament"
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I think it's fine a zerg needs to do lots of thing when doing this style and it's not really unbeatable mana at one point had the game in his hand, pretty much when he killed the hive he jsut wasn't able to get the magic number of collossi that's like 6 or 7. this snute style requires a lot of skill and many zergs do mistakes like not unburrow their swarm hosts or not running away far enough. i think the muta remax after wasting your ultralisks is much much scarrier than this for a toss
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mana said "good luck in the tournament" or something like that
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On January 18 2014 10:32 Undead1993 wrote: I think it's fine a zerg needs to do lots of thing when doing this style and it's not really unbeatable mana at one point had the game in his hand, pretty much when he killed the hive he jsut wasn't able to get the magic number of collossi that's like 6 or 7. this snute style requires a lot of skill and many zergs do mistakes like not unburrow their swarm hosts or not running away far enough. i think the muta remax after wasting your ultralisks is much much scarrier than this for a toss
Yeah it's not OP or easier to play than on the P side or anything, it's just pretty lame that static defense and some of the slowest units in the game is the only good lategame option for zerg. MaNa played extremely bad tho so happy Snute won.
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On January 18 2014 10:32 Undead1993 wrote: I think it's fine a zerg needs to do lots of thing when doing this style and it's not really unbeatable mana at one point had the game in his hand, pretty much when he killed the hive he jsut wasn't able to get the magic number of collossi that's like 6 or 7. this snute style requires a lot of skill and many zergs do mistakes like not unburrow their swarm hosts or not running away far enough. i think the muta remax after wasting your ultralisks is much much scarrier than this for a toss very true, it's certainly not "easy mode" for zerg, you have to have good control to use swarm hosts against a good protoss. however, the fact that it's the ONLY lategame style for zerg makes it quite boring to watch and means that protoss CANNOT be allowed a hard counter to this style, which is kind of strange in sc2 design and i understand why it causes problems for toss who largely focus on having tech counters throughout the game to beat zerg.
long story short, i definitely agree that the solution is not protoss nerfs or straight up swarm host nerfs but more options and more tech diversity for zerg in the late game. but that's very hard to do from a design standpoint
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I hate how the results are not in a spoiler tag. Wtf guys seriously
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no naniwa or sase for sweden
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Someone should start an Eiki fanclub!
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i told you russia was the favourite
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On January 18 2014 19:39 Coppii wrote:no naniwa or sase for sweden 
After all the hoopla about who would be playing for Sweden, they fielded a B team. Thorzain, Naniwa, Sase, Miniraiser, Sjow.... Just saying I would have thought Sweden could have won this easy
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